Re: [Python-Dev] Bad python 2.5 build on OSX 10.8 mountain lion

2012-10-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article 
,
 Guido van Rossum  wrote:

> Forgot the link...
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7885
> 
> On Monday, October 1, 2012, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 
> > As discussed here, the python 2.5 binary distributed by Apple on mountain
> > lion is broken. Could someone file an official complaint? This is really
> > bad...

I've filed a bug against 10.8 python2.5.   The 10.8 versions of Apple's 
pythons are compile with clang and we did see some sign extension issues 
with ctypes.  The 10.7 version of Apple's python2.5 is compiled with 
llvm-gcc and handles 2**31 correctly.

Unfortunately, AFAIK, only the submitter (i.e. me) can see the bug 
report (problem id 12411585).  I'll report back when I hear something.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Bad python 2.5 build on OSX 10.8 mountain lion

2012-10-02 Thread Stefan Krah
Ned Deily  wrote:
> > Forgot the link...
> > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7885
> > 
> > On Monday, October 1, 2012, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > 
> > > As discussed here, the python 2.5 binary distributed by Apple on mountain
> > > lion is broken. Could someone file an official complaint? This is really
> > > bad...
> 
> I've filed a bug against 10.8 python2.5.   The 10.8 versions of Apple's 
> pythons are compile with clang and we did see some sign extension issues 
> with ctypes.  The 10.7 version of Apple's python2.5 is compiled with 
> llvm-gcc and handles 2**31 correctly.

Yes, this looks like http://bugs.python.org/issue11149 .


Stefan Krah


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Re: [Python-Dev] Bad python 2.5 build on OSX 10.8 mountain lion

2012-10-02 Thread Ned Deily
In article <[email protected]>,
 Stefan Krah  wrote:
> Ned Deily  wrote:
> > > Forgot the link...
> > > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7885
> > > 
> > > On Monday, October 1, 2012, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > > 
> > > > As discussed here, the python 2.5 binary distributed by Apple on 
> > > > mountain
> > > > lion is broken. Could someone file an official complaint? This is 
> > > > really
> > > > bad...
> > 
> > I've filed a bug against 10.8 python2.5.   The 10.8 versions of Apple's 
> > pythons are compile with clang and we did see some sign extension issues 
> > with ctypes.  The 10.7 version of Apple's python2.5 is compiled with 
> > llvm-gcc and handles 2**31 correctly.
> Yes, this looks like http://bugs.python.org/issue11149 .

Ah, right, thanks.  I've updated the Apple issue accordingly.

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Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

2012-10-02 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 11:50:10PM +0200, Christian Heimes 
 wrote:
> Am 30.09.2012 14:01, schrieb Oleg Broytman:
> >Many kudos to the team and to all contributors!
> > 
> >Linux Weekly News regularly publishes tables "Who done what in Linux
> > Kernel": http://lwn.net/Articles/507986/
> > http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/517564/bec11e6ace6ad699/
> > 
> >It would be interesting to see tables like these for Python.
> 
> Ohloh has lots of statistics and graphics:
> 
> https://www.ohloh.net/p/python

   Good enough, thank you!

Oleg.
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Re: [Python-Dev] experimental: Misc/NEWS included in docs

2012-10-02 Thread Georg Brandl

On 09/30/2012 10:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:14:37 -0700
Chris Jerdonek  wrote:


On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl  wrote:
> at http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/news.html, there is now
> a rendering of Misc/NEWS with tracker links and a crude filtering
> capability.  I thought that this will complement the "whatsnew"
> documents nicely for people looking for more detail.
>
> Please let me know if it's useful, or what could be done to make
> it *more* useful.

Good idea.  Some suggestions:

* A note at the top explaining what this page is and how it differs
from the other What's New page (including perhaps a link to the other
What's New page).  It might also be good if the two had more
distinctive titles.  They are currently "What’s New in Python" and
"Python News."


Agreed. I think the titles are currently very confusing. The page
you've just added should be called something like "Changelog", to
stress its more bare'n'technical natural compared to our official
"What's New" pages.

Also it would be extra nice if the "What's new in Python X.Y" section
headers could be renamed to "Python X.Y changelog", or similar.


Please have a look again (it's renamed to .../changelog.html); Ezio and I
tried to incorporate all the suggestions.

Georg

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Re: [Python-Dev] experimental: Misc/NEWS included in docs

2012-10-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Georg Brandl  wrote:
>
> Please have a look again (it's renamed to .../changelog.html); Ezio and I
> tried to incorporate all the suggestions.

Very nice. I tweaked the wording in the 3.3.1 section to be more
explicit that it hasn't been released yet and people should look
further down for the 3.3.0 changes.

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-02 Thread Éric Araujo
Hello,

We confirm October 27!  User groups and devs on IRC, join us if you can.
 I’ll send an announcement to the mentoring list to let subscribers know
about the event.

Cheers
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-02 Thread Maciej Szulik

On 10/02/2012 08:47 PM, Éric Araujo wrote:

Hello,

We confirm October 27!  User groups and devs on IRC, join us if you can.
  I’ll send an announcement to the mentoring list to let subscribers know
about the event.

Cheers


I'll be joining this particular event for sure, through IRC, I was
planing to get more Poles interested in topic ;)
Thanks for clearing things, I'll see what can be done with another Bug 
Day :)


Regards,
Maciej

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Éric Araujo  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We confirm October 27!  User groups and devs on IRC, join us if you can.
>  I’ll send an announcement to the mentoring list to let subscribers know
> about the event.

Apologies if this is a stupid question (or just completely
misdirected), but does this mean that if I'm interested in
participating in the bug day, the first step should be to join
core-mentorship@?

Thanks!

ChrisA
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-02 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi Chris,

Le 02/10/2012 18:14, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> Apologies if this is a stupid question (or just completely
> misdirected), but does this mean that if I'm interested in
> participating in the bug day, the first step should be to join
> core-mentorship@?

It’s not required, but you are welcome to do it.  I’ll send an
announcement with details about participating soon™.

Regards
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python Bug Day in October

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Éric Araujo  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Le 02/10/2012 18:14, Chris Angelico a écrit :
>> Apologies if this is a stupid question (or just completely
>> misdirected), but does this mean that if I'm interested in
>> participating in the bug day, the first step should be to join
>> core-mentorship@?
>
> It’s not required, but you are welcome to do it.  I’ll send an
> announcement with details about participating soon™.

Thanks. I've joined the list (as if I needed *still more* email in my
inbox... heh), as it seems the best way to get those critical details
of start/end times, IRC channel, etc, etc.

Thanks for organizing this. It's a good excuse/opportunity to get started!

ChrisA
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