Barney Gale writes:
> I did; I think it was a mistake to start discourse without a plan for
> shutting down this mailing list.
"Start"? When it was started it was an experiment. Nobody had a
strong take on whether Discourse would really take off or not, or even
whether there might be a dual-channel mode (admittedly that was
relatively unlikely IMO then). Planning to shut down the mailing list
wasn't a good idea.
Pretty quickly a lot of conversations moved to Discourse (surprisingly
to me). But there was still a fair amount of resistance, and a number
of people requested at minimum better threading for the Discourse mail
interface, which took a while but eventually was accomplished. IMO
its only been in the last 4-6 months that shutting down Python-Dev
became a realistic option, as traffic disappeared and the biggest
common complaint about Discourse was mostly resolved[1].
AFAICS the biggest issue with keeping Python-Dev is that it allows the
hope that dev conversations will return to email, and that just seems
unlikely to me. A few people will try to use it, and they'll be
directed to Discourse after short conversations. The only real cost I
see is to the admins, and that's almost zero for the site admin. I
can't speak to the cost to moderators. If they're sick of it, I'd say
we can make the list read-only (ie, archive-only) pretty much any
time. I'd be sad, but I get the feeling that the only people left
reading it are "here for the community", not to develop code, which is
happening over on Discourse.
I'm sure it would be easy[2] to modify the list of moderation options so
that moderators can with discard spam, or send a canned "go post on
Discourse, here's an introduction to Python Discourse" message to
RealPeople[tm].
Footnotes:
[1] That's maybe a little unfair. As a Mailman dev and mailing list
fan, I've thought a lot about this, and I believe there is a fundamental
difference between the completely asynchronous mail protocol and the
much more synchronous messaging protocol imposed by most forum
software, specifically Discourse.
[2] Mailman devs would help, obviously we love Python and would be
happy to contribute back.
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