Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Nick Coghlan]

On 4 November 2016 at 02:16, Charalampos Stratakis  wrote:
> And FESCo ticket about that[0]
>
> [0] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1642

Awesome, thanks for tackling this.

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Charalampos Stratakis]

And FESCo ticket about that[0]

[0] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1642

Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat


- Original Message -
From: "Nick Coghlan" 
To: "Fedora Python SIG" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:29:04 AM
Subject: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

Hi folks,

During the discussion of the os.urandom() change in Python 3.6 (the
successor to the accidental change in Python 3.5 that is the subject
of Tomas's emailing about rebasing to 3.5.2 in F24), we came to the
conclusion it would be good to get 3.6 into Rawhide early enough to
impact the upstream beta cycle:
https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/UAB7JJ5VPW2W2QEERZ4HIQZZB3QMB2H5/

However, there's no reference to that discussion in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.6 - it only refers to
incorporating a release candidate or the actual release, which will be
too late for us to request changes to the upstream default
os.urandom() behaviour if we find unexpected problems with it.

With Python 3.6b2 recently pushed out the door, there's about two
months (including two more beta releases) until the first release
candidate in early December.

Regards,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Charalampos Stratakis]

Third beta is at copr [0]

[0] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/cstratak/python-3.6/build/472123/

Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat


- Original Message -
From: "Nick Coghlan" <ncogh...@gmail.com>
To: "Fedora Python SIG" <python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:57:09 PM
Subject: Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

On 18 October 2016 at 00:49, Charalampos Stratakis <cstra...@redhat.com> wrote:
> The current URL should be https://beaker.qa.fedoraproject.org/ if that is the 
> one you have in mind.

Indeed it is, thank you!

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Charalampos Stratakis]

Hi,

It would be certainly interesting to write an article about it.

Ideally it remains to be seen which version of python 3.6 is going to be 
deployed in rawhide and after deploying it, publish the article so people can 
do some early testing.

Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat


- Original Message -
From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflo...@gmail.com>
To: python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:53:49 AM
Subject: Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

On 10/17/2016 10:57 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 18 October 2016 at 00:49, Charalampos Stratakis <cstra...@redhat.com> 
> wrote:
>> The current URL should be https://beaker.qa.fedoraproject.org/ if that is 
>> the one you have in mind.
>
> Indeed it is, thank you!
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>

Hi everyone, I'm observing and chiming in late to this discussion. My 
understanding from reading this thread is that it's intended to package 
3.6 for Rawhide and eventually having it made as a Change in F26.

If 3.6 is going to be hitting Rawhide, would anyone be interested in 
writing an announcement / tips for testing on the Fedora Magazine? I 
think this would be a highly-interesting article to our readers to know 
that 3.6 is in Rawhide, and there may be some people who are willing to 
jump in and help test if they knew the opportunity was there.

Thanks everyone!

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflo...@gmail.com


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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Justin W. Flory]

On 10/17/2016 10:57 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:

On 18 October 2016 at 00:49, Charalampos Stratakis  wrote:

The current URL should be https://beaker.qa.fedoraproject.org/ if that is the 
one you have in mind.


Indeed it is, thank you!

Cheers,
Nick.



Hi everyone, I'm observing and chiming in late to this discussion. My 
understanding from reading this thread is that it's intended to package 
3.6 for Rawhide and eventually having it made as a Change in F26.


If 3.6 is going to be hitting Rawhide, would anyone be interested in 
writing an announcement / tips for testing on the Fedora Magazine? I 
think this would be a highly-interesting article to our readers to know 
that 3.6 is in Rawhide, and there may be some people who are willing to 
jump in and help test if they knew the opportunity was there.


Thanks everyone!

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflo...@gmail.com



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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Nick Coghlan]

On 18 October 2016 at 00:49, Charalampos Stratakis  wrote:
> The current URL should be https://beaker.qa.fedoraproject.org/ if that is the 
> one you have in mind.

Indeed it is, thank you!

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Charalampos Stratakis]

The current URL should be https://beaker.qa.fedoraproject.org/ if that is the 
one you have in mind.

Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat


- Original Message -
From: "Nick Coghlan" <ncogh...@gmail.com>
To: "Fedora Python SIG" <python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:22:20 PM
Subject: Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

On 17 October 2016 at 19:26, Charalampos Stratakis <cstra...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The change is already approved by FESCo [0] although as mentioned at the 
> change page,

Aye, I'd missed that initially, and then saw the ChangeAccepted note on the BZ.

> it is accepted for release candidate, so I guess I should open another ticket 
> for FESCo if they agree for a beta version to be built in rawhide.

Let's see how far we can get with COPR builds before going back to
FESCo - we should at least run
https://beaker-project.org/docs/user-guide/beaker-provided-tasks.html#distribution-rebuild
against the COPR Python and the Fedora packages that depend on Python
before proposing early adoption of the betas.

(Although I'll have to ask what's become of beaker.fedoraproject.org
before doing that - if it's not going to be back any time soon, then I
may need to run that on the Red Hat internal instance instead)

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Nick Coghlan]

On 17 October 2016 at 19:26, Charalampos Stratakis  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The change is already approved by FESCo [0] although as mentioned at the 
> change page,

Aye, I'd missed that initially, and then saw the ChangeAccepted note on the BZ.

> it is accepted for release candidate, so I guess I should open another ticket 
> for FESCo if they agree for a beta version to be built in rawhide.

Let's see how far we can get with COPR builds before going back to
FESCo - we should at least run
https://beaker-project.org/docs/user-guide/beaker-provided-tasks.html#distribution-rebuild
against the COPR Python and the Fedora packages that depend on Python
before proposing early adoption of the betas.

(Although I'll have to ask what's become of beaker.fedoraproject.org
before doing that - if it's not going to be back any time soon, then I
may need to run that on the Red Hat internal instance instead)

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

[Charalampos Stratakis]

Hello Nick,

Please feel free to edit the change proposal. I also fully agree to the 
proposal you made at the link you provided. Currently I have in copr the first 
beta, and also I can build the second beta as well if I exclude the ensurepip 
test.

I was actually thinking of adding python 3.6 in rawhide when rc1 was released, 
but if that is too late, which pre-release would be ideal to be built in 
rawhide?

Regards,

Charalampos Stratakis
Associate Software Engineer
Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat


- Original Message -
From: "Nick Coghlan" 
To: "Fedora Python SIG" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:29:04 AM
Subject: Python 3.6 beta release in F26 Rawhide?

Hi folks,

During the discussion of the os.urandom() change in Python 3.6 (the
successor to the accidental change in Python 3.5 that is the subject
of Tomas's emailing about rebasing to 3.5.2 in F24), we came to the
conclusion it would be good to get 3.6 into Rawhide early enough to
impact the upstream beta cycle:
https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/UAB7JJ5VPW2W2QEERZ4HIQZZB3QMB2H5/

However, there's no reference to that discussion in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.6 - it only refers to
incorporating a release candidate or the actual release, which will be
too late for us to request changes to the upstream default
os.urandom() behaviour if we find unexpected problems with it.

With Python 3.6b2 recently pushed out the door, there's about two
months (including two more beta releases) until the first release
candidate in early December.

Regards,
Nick.

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