Re: Python 3.3 in Fedora 18

2012-07-23 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 01:41 -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > It's getting close to the Fedora 18 deadline, but Python 3.3 is in
> > feature freeze upstream, so I think we ought to try to get it into
> > Fedora 18
> > 
> > I've created this feature page for the bump of "python3" from 3.2 to
> > 3.3:
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_3.3
> > 
> > I've started work on packaging it.  My plan is to create "python3.3"
> > branches of all relevant packages within dist-git, and to test the
> > builds to try to sort out the bulk of the issues (scratch build of
> > the
> > core python3 src.rpm, and then local builds on a rawhide vm).  Once
> > that's done and (hopefully) all the issues are resolved, we can apply
> > the changes to "master" and rebuild for real into Koji.  Any help
> > would
> > be greatly appreciated!

> Maybe it would be better to try to get a separate Koji tags + target - that 
> way, if everything works ok, we can then just merge our new builds in. If 
> not, we can throw them away.
FWIW I asked about this last week on #fedora-releng, and the thought was
that it's not enough packages to be worth it yet:

 is there a (very) rough ETA on when the mass rebuild is
likely to be done?  I'm may want a custom build target for getting
Python 3.3 into F18: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_3.3
 dmalcolm: when its done
 :)
 dmalcolm: probably by the end of the weekend
 ah; thanks!
 well, lets see... 3 days and we have done what... 5k or so?
 well, 2 days I guess.
 so yeah, end of weekend seems possible
 so is a custom build target for python 3.3 sometime next week
a sane thing to ask for?
* dmalcolm is hoping to have a contingency plan
 dmalcolm: that should be fine. how many packages are we
talking about?
 and how long should it take?
 about 30 iirc
 depends if we run into difficulties
 am trying it out locally on my laptop
 dmalcolm: for that few it really shouldnt need its own tag
 dgilmore: thanks.  My concern is: what happens if I run into
some snag 20 packages in that isn't easily resolvable?  Do I manually
back everything out?
 dmalcolm: we could untag it as long as its not gone out
* dmalcolm isn't sure what that means
 dgilmore: does that basically mean untag the say 20 packages,
so that rawhide goes back to earlier NVRs?
 dmalcolm: yes
 tnx
 dmalcolm: we cant do that though if its gone out in a nightly
rawhide
 hmmm
* dmalcolm hopes that that gives a wide enough window, and gets back to
rehearsing the builds on his laptop
 thanks



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Re: Python 3.3 in Fedora 18

2012-07-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:30:13PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
>  dmalcolm: that should be fine. how many packages are we
> talking about?
>  and how long should it take?
>  about 30 iirc
>
Just an FYI:  100 packages is a better estimate.
$ lftp 
mirrors.tummy.com:/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/p

cd ok, 
cwd=/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/p
lftp 
mirrors.tummy.com:/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/i386/os/Packages/p>
 ls python3*|wc -l

108

-Toshio


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