Should python3-rpm-macros depend on python3?
We have an interesting request for python3-rpm-macros to depend on python3. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563789 Highlights: - users who build for Python 3 are told (in the guidelines) to BR python3-devel (that brings in both python3 and python3-rpm-macros) - the existence of python3-rpm-macros is left as an implementation detail for ^ - in theory, those macros can be used with other Pythons (such as pypy3 or python36, that is most likely not done in practice) Arguments: - to require: the macros are broken without a python3 interpreter - to not: the macros should work with any python3 interpreter Solutions? - declare direct BR of macros without a python3 interpreter unsupported - add dependency on python3. unused if used with another interpreter - add a common virtual provide for all python3 interpreters or require (python3 or pypy3 or python36...) - very tedious -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Should python3-rpm-macros depend on python3?
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:05 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > We have an interesting request for python3-rpm-macros to depend on python3. > > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563789 > > Highlights: > > - users who build for Python 3 are told (in the guidelines) to BR > python3-devel > (that brings in both python3 and python3-rpm-macros) > - the existence of python3-rpm-macros is left as an implementation detail > for ^ > - in theory, those macros can be used with other Pythons > (such as pypy3 or python36, that is most likely not done in practice) > > Arguments: > > - to require: the macros are broken without a python3 interpreter > - to not: the macros should work with any python3 interpreter > > Solutions? > > - declare direct BR of macros without a python3 interpreter unsupported > - add dependency on python3. unused if used with another interpreter > - add a common virtual provide for all python3 interpreters > or require (python3 or pypy3 or python36...) - very tedious > Have we ever tried using it with pypy3? Does it even work with that (that is, pypy3-foo packages can be made)? If it does, we should just add a common virtual provide to supported interpreters and require that. Else, just require python3. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! ___ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Should python3-rpm-macros depend on python3?
On 19. 06. 19 12:24, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:05 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: We have an interesting request for python3-rpm-macros to depend on python3. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563789 Highlights: - users who build for Python 3 are told (in the guidelines) to BR python3-devel (that brings in both python3 and python3-rpm-macros) - the existence of python3-rpm-macros is left as an implementation detail for ^ - in theory, those macros can be used with other Pythons (such as pypy3 or python36, that is most likely not done in practice) Arguments: - to require: the macros are broken without a python3 interpreter - to not: the macros should work with any python3 interpreter Solutions? - declare direct BR of macros without a python3 interpreter unsupported - add dependency on python3. unused if used with another interpreter - add a common virtual provide for all python3 interpreters or require (python3 or pypy3 or python36...) - very tedious Have we ever tried using it with pypy3? Does it even work with that (that is, pypy3-foo packages can be made)? If it does, we should just add a common virtual provide to supported interpreters and require that. Else, just require python3. In practice, I have not. However in theory: $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/pypy3' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/pypy3-7.1/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.5' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.4' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.8' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Should python3-rpm-macros depend on python3?
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:09 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 19. 06. 19 12:24, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:05 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> We have an interesting request for python3-rpm-macros to depend on python3. > >> > >> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563789 > >> > >> Highlights: > >> > >>- users who build for Python 3 are told (in the guidelines) to BR > >> python3-devel > >> (that brings in both python3 and python3-rpm-macros) > >>- the existence of python3-rpm-macros is left as an implementation > >> detail for ^ > >>- in theory, those macros can be used with other Pythons > >> (such as pypy3 or python36, that is most likely not done in practice) > >> > >> Arguments: > >> > >>- to require: the macros are broken without a python3 interpreter > >>- to not: the macros should work with any python3 interpreter > >> > >> Solutions? > >> > >>- declare direct BR of macros without a python3 interpreter unsupported > >>- add dependency on python3. unused if used with another interpreter > >>- add a common virtual provide for all python3 interpreters > >> or require (python3 or pypy3 or python36...) - very tedious > >> > > > > Have we ever tried using it with pypy3? Does it even work with that > > (that is, pypy3-foo packages can be made)? If it does, we should just > > add a common virtual provide to supported interpreters and require > > that. Else, just require python3. > > In practice, I have not. However in theory: > > $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/pypy3' --eval '%python3_sitearch' > /usr/lib64/pypy3-7.1/site-packages > > $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.5' --eval '%python3_sitearch' > /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages > > $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.4' --eval '%python3_sitearch' > /usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages > > $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.8' --eval '%python3_sitearch' > /usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages > I took a look at pypy3, and I see we already define pypy3 variants of the python3 macros... Do we want to deduplicate them and maybe have a macro switch for flipping the interpreter? In that case, then pypy3-devel should BR python3-rpm-macros... -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! ___ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Should python3-rpm-macros depend on python3?
On 19. 06. 19 14:36, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:09 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 19. 06. 19 12:24, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:05 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: We have an interesting request for python3-rpm-macros to depend on python3. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563789 Highlights: - users who build for Python 3 are told (in the guidelines) to BR python3-devel (that brings in both python3 and python3-rpm-macros) - the existence of python3-rpm-macros is left as an implementation detail for ^ - in theory, those macros can be used with other Pythons (such as pypy3 or python36, that is most likely not done in practice) Arguments: - to require: the macros are broken without a python3 interpreter - to not: the macros should work with any python3 interpreter Solutions? - declare direct BR of macros without a python3 interpreter unsupported - add dependency on python3. unused if used with another interpreter - add a common virtual provide for all python3 interpreters or require (python3 or pypy3 or python36...) - very tedious Have we ever tried using it with pypy3? Does it even work with that (that is, pypy3-foo packages can be made)? If it does, we should just add a common virtual provide to supported interpreters and require that. Else, just require python3. In practice, I have not. However in theory: $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/pypy3' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/pypy3-7.1/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.5' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.5/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.4' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages $ rpm --define '__python3 /usr/bin/python3.8' --eval '%python3_sitearch' /usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages I took a look at pypy3, and I see we already define pypy3 variants of the python3 macros... Do we want to deduplicate them and maybe have a macro switch for flipping the interpreter? In that case, then pypy3-devel should BR python3-rpm-macros... No idea. I don't think that it is needed, I'm just saying it is possible. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ python-devel mailing list -- python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
