[ANN] pyx12-1.4.0 released
pyx12-1.4.0 is available at http://pyx12.sourceforge.net/ What is Pyx12? == Pyx12 is a HIPAA X12 document validator and converter. X12 files are a form of electronic data interchange. The HIPAA transaction standard requires certain types of healthcare data to be transmitted in this form. Pyx12 parses an ANSI X12N (Healthcare) data file and validates it against a representation of the Implementation Guidelines for a HIPAA transaction. By default, it creates a 997 response. It can also create an HTML representation of the X12 document or can translate to and from several XML representations of the data file. What's New: === This is primarily a feature release: Run-time Map Customization: The validation specifications for each X12 transaction are contained in XML files (map files). For a particular transaction, the map file describes the loops, segments, and elements; their relationships, their requirement conditions; and their data types. As XML files, their contents can be altered using XSL transformations. The parsing and validation of an X12 document can be altered by giving one or more XSLT files as command line arguments. The XSLT files are applied to the correct map for the X12 document in turn. Using this feature, the validation of the document can be made more or less restrictive. The XSL transform should be written so that it only affects the intended map file. Applying the XSLT to any other map should result in no change. Also, the resulting XML map must validate against the XML Schema file 'map.xsd'. Regular Expression Element Value Validation: XSL transforms can also be used to apply a regular expression to a map element node. This allows further element value validation. See example XSLT files in %PYTHONDIR%\test\files and the XML Schema file 'map.xsd' for more details. For syntax, see python regular expression syntax. Windows installation using the python generated EXE file has been fixed. Map location lookups have been fixed. See http://pyx12.sourceforge.net/install.html for more information. The original maps (pre A1) have been removed from the package. XML Schemas for the maps and for dataele.xml have been created. Non-conforming maps have been fixed. License === pyx12 is released under the BSD license. === John Holland Kalamazoo Community Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
ANN: Front Range Pythoneers Meeting, Wed, May 16, 6-8 PM, in Boulder, Colorado - Weather Research with Python
== Meeting: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 == * Time: 6-8 PM * Location: bivio Software, Inc., 28th and Iris, Boulder, CO. Above Hair Elite in Suite S. There is abundant parking. This coming Wednesday, May 16, we have two researchers from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder presenting how they use Python as part of their weather research: * Joe VanAndel will present Linux and Python at 20,000 Meters Above the Sea, a NCAR/CNES dropsonde project that investigated the hurricane formation zone off the west coast of Africa. After introducing the driftsonde project, he will discuss how Linux was used in the on-board gondola computer and explain how using the Python programming language facilitated reprogramming the gondola in the middle of a flight. * Mary Haley will present Python Frameworks for Geoscience Visualization and Analysis. PyNGL and PyNIO are Python interfaces to a widely popular software package called the NCAR Command Language (NCL) for the access, analysis, and high-quality quantitative visualization of geoscientific data. Mary will briefly discuss NCL's history, and then segue into why Python was chosen for developing the next generation framework tools for file input/output, analysis and visualization. She will show an animation from a new high resolution Community Climate System Model (CCSM) run computed on a T341 grid (1024 points in longitude by 512 points in latitude) that was created using NCAR's new Python interfaces to NCL and other post production utilities. Some upcoming events you might be interested in: * Front Range Code Camp. Saturday, May 19. This would be an good setting to have a Python code jam. * Pythoneers Meeting, June 18. Steve Bethard from CU will present on Python and Natural Language Processing. * SciPy 2007 Conference, Aug 16-17. Held on the CalTech campus in Pasadena, CA, Aug 16-17. The deadline for abstracts is June 29. We will have food drink available as usual. This includes our usual free beer! Hope to see you there Wednesday! More details: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontRangePythoneers -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
Jython 2.2 Beta2 is available
I'm happy to announce that Jython 2.2-beta2 is available for download: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12867package_id=12218release_id=507592 See http://jython.org/Project/installation.html for installation instructions. This is the second and final beta release towards the 2.2 version of Jython. It includes fixes for more than 30 bugs found since the first beta and the completion of Jython's support for new-style classes. Enjoy! Charlie -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
Re: how to refer to partial list, slice is too slow?
I make a sample here for the more clearly explanation s = . - this is a large string data - ... def parser1(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser2(data[100:]) def parser2(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser3(data[100:]) def parser3(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser4(data[100:]) ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to refer to partial list, slice is too slow?
人言落日是天涯,望极天涯不见家 schrieb: I'm a python newbie. It seems the slice operation will do copy. for example: a = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0] b = a[7:] b [8, 9, 0] a.remove(9) a [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 0] b [8, 9, 0] if the list have large members, the slice operations will consume many times. for instance, I have a long string named it as S, the size is more than 100K I want to parser it one part-to-part. first, I process the first 100 byte, and pass the remainder to the next parser function. I pass the S[100:] as an argument of the next parser function. but this operation will cause a large bytes copy. Is there any way to just make a reference to the remainder string not copy? You can use itertools.islice: py a = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0] py b = itertools.islice(a, 7) py b itertools.islice object at 0xb7d9c34c py b.next() 1 py b.next() 2 py b.next() 3 py b.next() 4 py b.next() 5 py b.next() 6 py b.next() 7 py b.next() Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? StopIteration HTH, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SQLObject 0.9.0
For reasons others will know, there are different branches to the SQLObject project. I think, analogously, python still has an active 2.4 branch, if that helps make sense of maintaining branches based on versions. I'm not sure why the announcements aren't bundled into one because just about everyone who sees this for the first time asks the same question. For the community being addressed (namely, users of SQLObject), this form provides a useful service: - they know that three branches are actively being maintained (0.7, 0.8, and 0.9). I would expect that in particular users of the 0.7 branch are glad to see that 0.7 is still alive even though 0.9 was just started. This is indeed more than is common, so releasing 0.7.7 simultaneously sends a clear message of affirmation (I explicitly looked for a notice that this would be the last 0.7 release, and found none) - for each branch, there is a list of changes for the branch, and I can easily see what changed in the version I'm interested in. Googling for old release announcements (e.g. SQLObject 0.7.5) brings up the announcement on hit 2, so I can also easily find announcemnts if I missed one. Those not using SQLObject, or even see this for the first time, this form gives the project higher attention than other projects - so it may attract users. It may also shy away users if they think this obsessive form of sending three usenet articles in a single hour is spam, but I guess the author is willing to take that risk. Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: which is more pythonic/faster append or +=[]
Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note the -s before the initialization statement that Alex meant to add but didn't. If that is missing Yep, sorry for erroneously skipping the -s! Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to find C source
Gabriel Genellina schrieb: En Thu, 10 May 2007 21:47:39 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: How do I get to the source for parser.suite()? Are you looking for function parser_suite in parsermodule.c? To give some URL for convenience: http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Modules/parsermodule.c Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Simple Tkinter Progress Bar
Hi I am a newbie in Python I am creating a simple Tkinter based application. I have written Tkinter GUI source code and the programme logic in the same .py file. I am searching for a way to implement a simple Progress bar for my application. Are there any simple ways of doin it. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to find C source
On May 10, 8:36 pm, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Thu, 10 May 2007 21:47:39 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: How do I get to the source for parser.suite()? Are you looking for function parser_suite in parsermodule.c? -- Gabriel Genellina Looks like -it-. Thank you for your time. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
module error for elementtree
#!/usr/bin/env python from elementtree import ElementTree as Element tree = et.parse(testxml.xml) for t in tree.getiterator(SERVICEPARAMETER): if t.get(Semantics) == localId: t.set(Semantics, dataPackageID) tree.write(output.xml) Hi, For the above code to work elementtree is imported in first line ,but when running it says : ImportError: No module named elementtree.ElementTree Does thie module exists as default or a patch is needed? Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: High resolution sleep (Linux)
John a écrit : Anyways, what I need is high resolution sleep, not high resolution timing. Installing a real time OS seems like overkill. IDEA Maybe try creating threading.Event and waiting for it with a timeout. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: module error for elementtree
On May 11, 12:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python from elementtree import ElementTree as Element tree = et.parse(testxml.xml) for t in tree.getiterator(SERVICEPARAMETER): if t.get(Semantics) == localId: t.set(Semantics, dataPackageID) tree.write(output.xml) Hi, For the above code to work elementtree is imported in first line ,but when running it says : ImportError: No module named elementtree.ElementTree Does thie module exists as default or a patch is needed? Thanks http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/e095cc79d1efb99/a4523a6e9b7061af?rnum=1#a4523a6e9b7061af Read carefully. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Change serial timeout per read
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I actually want to do is to respond immediately if the expected string comes in, but not raise a timeout unless it takes longer than the maximum time. So if the device I'm communicating with usually responds in a second, but _can_ take up to 20 seconds, I don't want to do a sleep(20) then read the port since this will slow everything down a lot in an average world. I want to keep checking for the expected string, and act upon it as soon as I've got it, only raising a timeout if I haven't got it after 20 seconds. I guess to do this using non- blocking calls I have to do something like: timesofar = 0 returnstring = port.read(1) while len(returnstring)expectedlength: if timesofar = timeout: raise SerialException('Timeout') time.sleep(checkportinterval) timesofar += checkpointinterval returnstring += port.read(1) This seems rather messy. What I've tried this morning is to produce a modified version of uspp with a second optional timeout parameter in its read() function. If this is present, the timeout given is sent to the port using SetCommTimeouts(). If it's not present, the timeouts specified when the port was opened are sent. At first sight, with minimal testing on Windows, this seems to be working, and will leave my application code a lot cleaner than the non-blocking plus sleep approach. Of course I don't know whether my method will work on Linux, and there may be problems I haven't found yet. If it works it works - no problem with that - fight the dragons as you meet them, one at a time. I normally put something like this in a read function (from memory, not tested): error = 0 k = '' try: k = port.read(1) except IoError: error = 1 return error,k For this to work, you have to first unblock the port using fcntl: def unblock(f): given file f sets unblock flag to true fcntl.fcntl(f.fileno(),f.F_SETFL, os.O_NONBLOCK) Then you put a call to the read in a loop, and use time.time() to do your time out, resetting a start_time variable at the start, and every time you get a char, and using short sleeps (millisec or so) after unsuccessful calls to make it less of a busy loop. The side benefit of this is that once you have received a char, you can change gears and use a shorter time out to detect the end of message, in a protocol and state agnostic way. - when the device has stopped sending chars for a little while it has finished saying what it wants to say. - so its easy to write a get_a_reply routine with variable time out, moving the action from the char to the message level: start_time=time.time() s = '' while time.time()-start_time time_out: error,k = get_a_char(port) if error: time.sleep(0.001) continue s += k # keep the first char start_time = time.time() while time.time() - start_time 0.005: # inter char time out status,k = get_a_char(port) if error: time.sleep(0.001) continue s +=k start_time = time.time() break return s # return empty string or what was received Something similar works for me on Suse Linux - not sure if fcntl works on windows. And no it isn't pretty. - but then very little of what I write is... - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: High resolution sleep (Linux)
Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about C module with usleep,nanosleep? Unlikely to help! It is an linux OS limit that the minimum sleep time is 1/HZ. -- Nick Craig-Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.craig-wood.com/nick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to refer to partial list, slice is too slow?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], 人言落日是天涯,望极天涯不见家 wrote: I make a sample here for the more clearly explanation s = . - this is a large string data - ... def parser1(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser2(data[100:]) def parser2(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser3(data[100:]) def parser3(data) # do some parser ... # pass the remainder to next parser parser4(data[100:]) ... Do you need the remainder within the parser functions? If not you could split the data into chunks of 100 bytes and pass an iterator from function to function. Untested: def iter_chunks(data, chunksize): offset = chunksize while True: result = data[offset:offset + chunksize] if not result: break yield result def parser1(data): chunk = data.next() # ... parser2(data) def parser2(data): chunk = data.next() # ... parser3(data) # ... def main(): # Read or create data. # ... parser1(iter_chunks(data, 100)) Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie question about string(passing by ref)
lazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to pass a string by reference. I understand that strings are immutable, but Im not going to change the string in the function, just to aviod the overhead of copying(when pass-by-value) because the strings are long and this function will be called over and over again. You'll find it is pretty hard to get Python to copy a string even if you wanted it to. About the only way is to break it apart and then construct a new string with the same value from it. s = some long string id(s) 12944352 copyofs = s[:] id(copyofs) 12944352 copyofs = s[:-1]+s[-1:] id(copyofs) 12944992 def fn(foo): print id(foo) return foo fn(s) 12944352 'some long string' id(fn(s)) 12944352 12944352 And sometimes two strings created separately magically become the same string (not that should you assume this will happen, just that it might, and the behaviour will vary according to a lot of factors): s1 = abc id(s1) 12956256 s2 = abc id(s2) 12956256 s1 = pqr stu id(s1) 12956288 s2 = pqr stu id(s2) 12956192 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple Tkinter Progress Bar
On Fr, 11.05.2007, 08:42, Gurpreet Singh wrote: Hi I am a newbie in Python I am creating a simple Tkinter based application. I have written Tkinter GUI source code and the programme logic in the same .py file. I am searching for a way to implement a simple Progress bar for my application. Are there any simple ways of doin it. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Please see this: http://tkinter.unpythonic.net/wiki/ProgressBar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
checking if hour is between two hours
Hi all, i'm again working on my script of parsing logfiles :) I putted a new function to disable the rule of error between a certain hours, cause i want to use it as a monitoring script that run every 5 minutes and to disable error in hours of maintenance. But i have some problems to check it. In the rule-file i have HHMM(start) and HHMM(stop) - 0 0 to disable hours check (i can't check the timestamp in logfile cause not all the logfiles that i need to check have a timestamp in it). In the script i wrote: Actualtime=datetime.datetime.today().strftime(%H%M) if (startend): if (Actualtimestart): end=int(Hcheck)+1 else: if (int(Actualtime)int(end)): start=Actualtime if ((int(Actualtime)int(start)) or (int(Actualtime)int(end)) or ((start==0) and (end==0)) ): rule=error ...blablabla else: rule=skip blablabla Why i don't use the complete date with YYMMDDHHMM? Think about a rule that need to be disabled from hours 20:00 to 04:00. If i use also yymmdd, in the rule file i need to write a 2000 and 0400+1, the +1 to tell the script that the end is in the day after, to add a day. But it will work just till the , hour in witch the day will change. The script work, but is not so cleani just would like some advice to make it more clean, if possible. Like always, thanks in advance for the helps :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 4 byte integer
On May 11, 2007, at 4:25 AM, Paul D Ainsworth wrote: Greetings everyone. I'm a relative newcomer to python and I have a technical problem. I want to split a 32 bit / 4 byte unsigned integer into 4 separate byte variables according to the following logic: - bit numbers 0..7 byte 1 bit numbers 8..15 byte 2 bit numbers 16..23 byte 3 bit numbers 24..31 byte 4 Each of these byte variables to contain integer data from 0 to 255 (or 0 to FF in hex mode) I had thought that struct.unpack with an input message format of 'I' would be the way to do it, but its reporting an error that it doesn't want to accept an integer. Please can anyone advise? Have a look at http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/ Recipe/113799 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Re: Erlang style processes for Python
Jacob Lee wrote: Funny enough, I'm working on a project right now that is designed for exactly that: PARLEY, http://osl.cs.uiuc.edu/parley . Have you seen Kamaelia? Some people have noted that Kamaelia seems to have a number of similarities to Erlang's model, which seems to come from a common background knowledge. (Kamaelia's model is based on a blending of what I know from a very basic recasting of CSP, Occam, unix pipelines and async hardware verification). Home: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Home Intros: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Introduction http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/t/TN-LinuxFormat-Kamaelia.pdf http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp113.shtml * http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/t/TN-LightTechnicalIntroToKamaelia.pdf http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Docs/NotationForVisualisingAxon The one *'d is perhaps the best at the moment. Detail: http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Cookbook http://kamaelia.sourceforge.net/Components Michael. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: searching algorithm
On May 10, 2007, at 12:26 PM, Gigs_ wrote: Hi all! I have text file (english-croatian dictionary) with words in it in alphabetical order. This file contains 17 words in this format: english word: croatian word I want to make instant search for my gui Instant search, i mean that my program search words and show words to user as user type letters. yes, it needs to be fast Can someone give me some points (approaches) how to make this Should i make indexes and go with file.seek or should breake dictionary in peaces and put words that start with a in one and with b in another... ? So if i have this words ... if user type: abs program should list all words above in english and in croatian if user type: absorb than program should list last 3 words in english and in croatian any help would be appreciate! my apologies for bad english Here's an idea: use a rats' nest of dictionaries and do all the lookup work up front when you build the rats' nest. Maybe something like this: #! /usr/bin/env python import pprint dictionary = absinth:pelin absinthe:pelin absolute:apsolutan absolute:apsolutni kod absolute:apsolutno absolute:#269;ist absolute:nesumnjiv absolute:potpun absolute:savrsen absolute coordinates:apsolutne koordinate absolute frequency:apsolutna u#269;estalost absolute gap:apsolutni jaz absolute line spacing:apsolutni me#273;urazmak linija absolute majority:apsolutna ve#263;ina absolute pointing device:apsolutni pokaziva#269;ki ure#273;aj absolute quantity:apsolutni udio absolute value:apsolutna vrijednost absolute zero:apsolutna nula absolutely:apsolutno absolutely:bezuvjetno absolutely:nezavisno absolutely:potpuno absolutely:samostalno absolutely:sasvim absolution:odrjesenje absolution:oprostaj absolutism:apsolutizam absolve:odrijesiti absolve:osloboditi absorb:absorbirati absorb:apsorbirati absorb:crpsti lookup = {'words':{}, 'letters':{}} for translation in dictionary.split('\n'): english, croatian = translation.split(':') if english in lookup['words']: lookup['words'][english].append(croatian) else: lookup['words'][english] = [croatian] for position, letter in enumerate(english): if position == 0: youAreHere = lookup['letters'] if letter not in youAreHere: youAreHere[letter] = {'words':[]} youAreHere[letter]['words'].append(lookup['words'][english]) youAreHere = youAreHere[letter] def tryit(partial): youAreHere = lookup['letters'] for letter in partial: youAreHere = youAreHere[letter] return youAreHere['words'] if __name__ == '__main__': pprint.pprint(tryit('abso')) Hope this helps, Michael --- The Rules of Optimization are simple. Rule 1: Don't do it. Rule 2 (for experts only): Don't do it yet. -- Michael A. Jackson , Principles of Program Design, 1975. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
4 byte integer
Greetings everyone. I'm a relative newcomer to python and I have a technical problem. I want to split a 32 bit / 4 byte unsigned integer into 4 separate byte variables according to the following logic: - bit numbers 0..7 byte 1 bit numbers 8..15 byte 2 bit numbers 16..23 byte 3 bit numbers 24..31 byte 4 Each of these byte variables to contain integer data from 0 to 255 (or 0 to FF in hex mode) I had thought that struct.unpack with an input message format of 'I' would be the way to do it, but its reporting an error that it doesn't want to accept an integer. Please can anyone advise? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: searching algorithm
Call me dense, but how does one do this in Python - which doesn't have pointers? Dictionaries with dictionaries within dictionaries... (with each letter as the key and the its children as values) is going to be extremely space inefficient, right? Isn't *everything* in python essentially a pointer? Dictionaries with dictionaries within dictionaries... My gut feeling (which means I have not measured it, so I don't actually know) is that it would not be space inefficient. Perhaps someone who knows more about this will speak up? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newb: Python Module and Class Scope
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can a class inside a module, access a method, outside of class, but inside of the module? Eg. Can instance of class a access main, if so how? What is the scope of def main() interms of class A? myModule: class A: main() def main(): Yes, class A can access main. The name main will be defined at the top level of the module, and is considered a global for that module. Code within that module can access it simply as main. Code in other modules would have to import the module in order to use symbols within it. For example... ### myModule.py class A: def m(): main() def main(): pass ### other.py ### import myModule def main(): pass class B: def o(): main() # calls main() in this module myModule.main() # calls main in myModule Dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 4 byte integer
Have a look at http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/ Recipe/113799 Brilliant - thank you :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newb: Python Module and Class Scope
Dave Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scope of def main() interms of class A? myModule: class A: main() def main(): Yes, class A can access main. The name main will be defined at the top level of the module, and is considered a global for that module. No, the name main will be defined when the execution of the 'def main()' statement is complete. It is not defined until that point. In the example given the class statement is executed before the def statement is executed so at that point main is still undefined. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Re: module error for elementtree
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 12:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 12:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python from elementtree import ElementTree as Element tree = et.parse(testxml.xml) for t in tree.getiterator(SERVICEPARAMETER): if t.get(Semantics) == localId: t.set(Semantics, dataPackageID) tree.write(output.xml) Hi, For the above code to work elementtree is imported in first line ,but when running it says : ImportError: No module named elementtree.ElementTree Does thie module exists as default or a patch is needed? Thanks http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/e09... Read carefully.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The commands are given in that link are more so for a linux system .I am developing in windows.how should i go about to make it work As said: read carefully. Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: module error for elementtree
On May 11, 12:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 12:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python from elementtree import ElementTree as Element tree = et.parse(testxml.xml) for t in tree.getiterator(SERVICEPARAMETER): if t.get(Semantics) == localId: t.set(Semantics, dataPackageID) tree.write(output.xml) Hi, For the above code to work elementtree is imported in first line ,but when running it says : ImportError: No module named elementtree.ElementTree Does thie module exists as default or a patch is needed? Thanks http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/e09... Read carefully.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The commands are given in that link are more so for a linux system .I am developing in windows.how should i go about to make it work -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
vim e autoindentazione commenti
Ciao a tutti, alla fine dopo le mille dispute emacs vs vim mi sono messo a provarli entrambi... e mi pare ora di essere diventato un vimmaro (pur se molto 'custom' in quanto lo sto rendendo un bel po' + simile a cream). Una domanda stupida. Forse è più da comp.editors. Come faccio a far sì che vim prosegua automaticamente i commenti su più righe? Ho settato la lunghezza massima della riga a 79 caratteri, fin qui tutto ok, ma quando vado a capo, anche se la riga inizia con #, vim non lo aggiunge in automatico all'inizio. Al contrario con altri tipi di file (es. Java) questa aggiunta è automatica e la trovo molto, molto comoda. Dovrei andae a intaccare il file di indentazione? o quello di sintassi? -- Alan Franzoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Togli .xyz dalla mia email per contattarmi. Remove .xyz from my address in order to contact me. - GPG Key Fingerprint (Key ID = FE068F3E): 5C77 9DC3 BD5B 3A28 E7BC 921A 0255 42AA FE06 8F3E -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to tell whetehr Python script called as CGI or from command line?
import os if QUERY_STRING in os.environ: # CGI script might work. Thanks Steve for this suggestion. I did something similar: import os req = os.getenv('REQUEST_URI') if (not req is None) and len(req) 0: web = True which seemed to work for me. Rowan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jython 2.2 Beta2 is available
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Groves python-list@python.org wrote: I'm happy to announce that Jython 2.2-beta2 is available for download: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12867package_id=12218release_id=507592 See http://jython.org/Project/installation.html for installation instructions. This is the second and final beta release towards the 2.2 version of Jython. It includes fixes for more than 30 bugs found since the first beta and the completion of Jython's support for new-style classes. COngrats! Whoo-hoo! Excellent news! -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Look, it's your affair if you want to play with five people, but don't go calling it doubles. --John Cleese anticipates Usenet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: Python and Decimal integers from DB
Here is the solution, for the record. import pyodbc conn = pyodbc.connect(DSN=NAPL;UID=NAPL_VIEW;PWD=NAPVIEW) curs = conn.cursor() roll_num = 'A27255' Cols = 'TO_CHAR(X_NO) as X_NO' Table = 'photos' Select = 'Select ' + Cols + ' from ' + Table + ' where roll_number = ' +' + roll_num + ' curs.execute(Select) print select sucess rows= curs.fetchall() print fetch success for row in rows: print row.X_NO print done X_NO was entered in the DB as a number using the comma as a non-standard separator. Python did not like it in the decimal.py module so we brought it in as a character string using varchar2. Python liked this solution and returned my results. Now I can give the chars to a var and change it to numbers for some vector math Hope this helps people in the future From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sampson, David Sent: May 10, 2007 12:58 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Python and Decimal integers from DB Hey folks Freshie looking for help This is what I am trying to do. Use PYODBC to hit an oracle DB that has a ODBC connection.\ \The code bellow works when I replace '*' with a specific collumn name that does not have commas in the number. It also works for alphanumberic values. It fails when I try '*' or any collumn that has a comman in the number. The numbers are Latitude longitude readings. I get back Select Success but not fetch success so I feel as thopugh something is missing on the fetchall() function So how do I get the numbers to be recognized by python? I did lots of searches on python, ODBC, PYODBC, Decimal us and commas as decimals and various combinations. Lots of mailing lists a few tutorials and lots of misses. I came across: Import decimal Decimal.Decimal() This works a bit. It took a coma separated number string and kept the first part. But that works only when I put in a raw value, it doesn't work on the Fetchall function. HELP PLEASE... Cheers ===PYHTON CODE import pyodbc conn = pyodbc.connect(DSN=NAPL;UID=NAPL_VIEW;PWD=NAPVIEW) curs = conn.cursor() roll_num = 'A27255' Cols = '*' Table = 'photos' Select = 'Select ' + Cols + ' from ' + Table + ' where roll_number = ' +' + roll_num + ' curs.execute(Select) print select sucess rows= curs.fetchall() print fetch success for row in rows: print row.PHOTO_NUMBER print done =Standard Output Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\pywin\framework\scriptutils.py , line 310, in RunScript exec codeObject in __main__.__dict__ File U:\My Documents\py_projects\georef\NAPL_DB.py, line 12, in module rows= curs.fetchall() File C:\Python25\lib\decimal.py, line 614, in __new__ self._sign, self._int, self._exp = context._raise_error(ConversionSyntax) File C:\Python25\lib\decimal.py, line 2325, in _raise_error raise error, explanation InvalidOperation -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: searching algorithm
On 2007-05-11, ciju [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, both data structures could be implemented as tuple in python, for I suppose, if only lookup is needed tuple gives better performance than list. I used a list instead of a tuple where I thought a list would be convenient while building the data structure. But you could convert everything to tuples in the end, it's true. -- Neil Cerutti -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
software testing articles
Have you ever been interested in software testing? Giving you an in depth analysis/knowledge on software testing!! http://www.top-itarticles.com/softtest/main.asp -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: module error for elementtree
On 11 May 2007 00:05:19 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the above code to work elementtree is imported in first line ,but when running it says : ImportError: No module named elementtree.ElementTree Does thie module exists as default or a patch is needed? That depends on which version of Python you are running. Starting with 2.5, ElementTree was moved into the standard library, as part of the xml package. If you're using an older version of python, I think you'll need to download and install the elementtree package from http://effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm Assuming you're using python 2.5, you probably want something like this: from xml.etree.ElementTree import ElementTree as et -- Jerry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vim e autoindentazione commenti
On 2007-05-11, Alan Franzoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al contrario con altri tipi di file (es. Java) questa aggiunta è automatica e la trovo molto, molto comoda. Dovrei andae a intaccare il file di indentazione? o quello di sintassi? Colto prego nel manuale Vim: :help format-comments (Spiacente per la mia scrittura difettosa. Sto utilizzando il traduttore di altavista.) -- Neil Cerutti You've got to take the sour with the bitter. --Samuel Goldwyn -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: setting extra data to a wx.textctrl
On May 10, 10:51 pm, Pom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello group! I have an application which uses a lot of mysql data fields, all the same data type (floats). I created a panel which executes a SELECT * FROM tablename and makes as much fields as needed, using de cursor.description as wx.statictext and the cursors field contents copied into wx.textctrls. At creation time, I loop over all the fields in the record and create a tuple which contains ((textctrl1, fieldname1), (textctrl2, fieldname2), ...) so I can keep track of which textctrl holds which piece of fielddata. The problem I'm having is: to know the fieldname in an text_event, I use event.GetEventObject(), then perform an iteration over the tuple and when I find a match I use the field name to update the mysqltable. When having a few fields, this is ok. But I have over 100 fields in 1 record and it really slows things down. Now my question is: should I use a python dictionary (with an object as first lookup field) ? On windows, I've seen a Tag property in a textbox which was meant to be used for this kind of stuff. Maybe it's better to override the wx.textctrl so I can add an extra string value? Anyone having the best solution for this ? thx! Both of your ideas seem sound to me. You could also look into using statically assigned IDs that increment by one. Then you could just increment or decrement by one and look up the field by ID. Of course, that might get ugly and there are some IDs that are supposedly reserved. But it's an idea. Also, I've heard that Dabo (http://dabodev.com/) is good for database work. You might look at that. To get the quickest and most on target answers to wxPython questions, I recommend the wxPython users-group mailing list: http://www.wxpython.org/maillist.php Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: append
the reference material. I want to know about list operations such as append. I've been struggling myself to assemble and learn just the right combination of quick references. Here is some of what I've found. For a quick search for the syntax and a simple example of a particular method or function, the single most efficient source for me has been the keyword search page for the Python Library Reference, Language Reference, and Python/C API manuals that you can find from a link on the official documentation page at http://www.python.org/doc/ or directly at http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/pyhelp.cgi Full text searches (not limited to keywords like the resource above) of the Python Library Reference can also be done at http://www.zvon.org/other/python/PHP/search.php Other handy references are: Dive into Python at http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html The Python 2.5 Quick Reference at http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR25/PQR2.5.html Last, but far from least, the one resource that I most wish I had known about when I started with Python is the screencast tutorial site at www.showmedo.com. There are two excellent free screencasts on Python resources at http://tinyurl.com/2qkuht and lots of other Python tutorials, most free and some for a modest fee. In particular, the 9th installment of the paid series called Python Newbies on XP at http://tinyurl.com/3ayhwt is about how to use the help functions built into Python Idle. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Dyla'07: 3rd Workshop on Dynamic Languages and Applications
Dear colleague, Please, note that after the workshop, best papers will be selected, and a second deadline will then be set regarding preparation of the Electronic Communications of the EASST. Note that we submission deadline has been extended. The important dates: - May 27: deadline for the workshop submissions. Submissions should follow LNCS format (www.springer.com/lncs) and should be sorter than 10 pages. **extended deadline** - June 12-13: Author notification of their submission - June 15, 2007: ECOOP'07 Early Registration - July 31: Workshop - August 5: Selection of best papers for Electronic Communications of the EASST - September 10: deadline for revised and extended version of submission for the communications. Regards, Dyla organisers * Call for Papers Dyla 2007: 3rd Workshop on Dynamic Languages and Applications July 31, 2007, Berlin (Collocated with ECOOP 2007) http://dyla2007.unibe.ch * Objective = The goal of this workshop is to act as a forum where we can discuss new advances in the conception, implementation and application of object-oriented languages that radically diverge from the statically typed class-based reflectionless doctrine. The goal of the workshop is to discuss new as well as older forgotten languages and features in this context. Topics of interest include, but are certainly not limited to: - agents, actors, active objects, distribution, concurrency and mobility - delegation, prototypes, mixins - first-class closures, continuations, environments - reflection and meta-programming - (dynamic) aspects for dynamic languages - higher-order objects messages - ... other exotic dynamic features which you would categorize as OO - multi-paradigm static/dynamic-marriages - (concurrent/distributed/mobile/aspect) virtual machines - optimisation of dynamic languages - automated reasoning about dynamic languages - regular syntactic schemes (cf. S-expressions, Smalltalk, Self) - Smalltalk, Python, Ruby, Scheme, Lisp, Self, ABCL, Prolog, ... - ... any topic relevant in applying and/or supporting dynamic languages. We solicit high-quality submissions on research results and/or experience. Submitted papers must be unpublished and not submitted for publication elsewhere. Submissions should not exceed 10 pages, LNCS format (www.springer.com/lncs). Submission == Prospective attendees are requested to submit a position paper or an essay (max 10 pages, references included) on a topic relevant to the workshop to Alexandre Bergel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Submissions are demanded to be in .pdf format and should arrive before May 13, 2007. A selection of the best papers will be made, which will require an extension for an inclusion in a special issue in Electronic Communications of the EASST (eceasst.cs.tu-berlin.de). For this purpose, a new deadline will be set after the workshop. Moreover, Springer publishes a Workshop-Reader (as in the case of previous ECOOPs) which appears after the Conference and which contains Workshop-Reports (written by the organizers) and not the position papers submitted by the participants. Important dates === May 27, 2007: deadline for the workshop submissions. Submissions should follow LNCS format (www.springer.com/lncs) and should be sorter than 10 pages. **extended deadline** June 12-13, 2007: Author notification of their submission June 15, 2007: ECOOP'07 Early Registration July 31, 2007: Workshop August 05, 2007: Selection of best papers for Electronic Communications of the EASST September 10, 2007: deadline for revised and extended version of submission for the communications. Organisers == Alexandre Bergel Wolfgang De Meuter Stéphane Ducasse Oscar Nierstrasz Roel Wuyts Program committee = Alexandre Bergel (Hasso-Plattner-Institut, University of Potsdam, Germany) Johan Brichau (Université catholique de Louvain, Belgium) Pascal Costanza (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) Wolfgang De Meuter (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium) Stéphane Ducasse (University of Savoie, France) Erik Ernst (University of Aarhus, Denmark) Robert Hirschfeld (Hasso-Plattner-Institut, University of Potsdam, Germany) Oscar Nierstrasz(University of Bern, Switzerland) Matthew Flatt (University of Utah, USA) Dave Thomas(Bedarra Research Labs, Canada) Laurence Tratt(King's College London, UK) Roel Wuyts(IMEC Université Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium) -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.software-artist.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. --
Re: searching algorithm
Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me dense, but how does one do this in Python - which doesn't have pointers? Dictionaries with dictionaries within dictionaries... (with each letter as the key and the its children as values) is going to be extremely space inefficient, right? Isn't *everything* in python essentially a pointer? Dictionaries with dictionaries within dictionaries... My gut feeling (which means I have not measured it, so I don't actually know) is that it would not be space inefficient. Perhaps someone who knows more about this will speak up? Dicts are hash tables, and therefore, for performance, always keep some extra space (so that the table won't be too full). Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Towards faster Python implementations - theory
On May 10, 4:02 pm, Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the relevant bit of your last paragraph is at the start: We should Sorry, bad choice of words. see it faster. That's great. But unless people puts their money where their mouths are, I don't I know, I know. But that doesn't stop me from envying what the Lisp community has achieved. Python still sucks if we are using it for scientific simulations, testing CPU-bound algorithms, etc. Sure it is only 150-200 times slower than C for these tasks, but that can amount to the difference between one day and half a year of CPU time. But as strange as it may seem, it can still be advantageous to use Python. E.g. it may be less expensive to run the simulation in parallel on 200 CPUs than writing the code in C instead of Python. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie look at Python and OO
On 2007-05-10, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Thu, 10 May 2007 18:21:42 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: These conversations are funny to me. I use Python every day and I have never actually thought about the implications of binding objects to names, or two names pointing to the same object. Problems of this sort just never come up in actual programming for me. It just works. Python was my virgin language, so maybe that just makes it natural to me, but it seems like people coming from other languages get hung up on testing out the differences and theories rather than just programming in it. Alas, maybe I have yet to get deep enough to run into these kinds of problems. Certainly, learning Python as a first language has some advantages. But I think you'd feel a bit shocked if you had to program in C++ someday; these rather innocent lines might not do what you think: [...] Simple things have so complex and ugly rules that... ugh, enough for now. http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/An_Interview_with_Bjarne_Stroustrup.html Maybe BS thought he was joking, but IMO, it's true. Stroustrup: Remember the length of the average-sized 'C' project? About 6 months. Not nearly long enough for a guy with a wife and kids to earn enough to have a decent standard of living. Take the same project, design it in C++ and what do you get? I'll tell you. One to two years. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I know how to do at SPECIAL EFFECTS!! visi.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: software testing articles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you ever been interested in software testing? Giving you an in depth analysis/knowledge on software testing!! Looking around the site at random, I saw no in depth analysis/knowledge of anything. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Towards faster Python implementations - theory
On May 10, 7:18 pm, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, native machine code depends on the machine, or at least the machine being emulated by the hardware. Fortunately or not, the dominance of the x386 model makes this less of a problem. CMUCL and SBCL depends on the dominance of the x86 architecture. GCL uses the GCC backend, which supports a wide range of architectures. Building a compiler backend is not needed for a Python JIT, one can accept the GPL license and use GCC as a backend. Or one could translate between Python and Lisp on the fly, and use a compiled Lisp (CMUCL, SBCL, Franz, GCL) as runtime backend. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: change of random state when pyc created??
This is an attempt to synthesize Bill and Carsten's proposals. http://docs.python.org/lib/typesmapping.html: for footnote (3) Keys and values are listed in an arbitrary order. This order is indeterminate and generally depends on factors outside the scope of the containing program. However, if items(), keys(), values(), iteritems(), iterkeys(), and itervalues() are called with no intervening modifications to the dictionary, the lists will directly correspond. http://docs.python.org/lib/types-set.html: append a new sentence to 2nd par. Iteration over a set returns elements in an indeterminate order, which generally depends on factors outside the scope of the containing program. Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Better way to isolate string
Greetings. Given the string s below and using only python built-in capabilities, I am trying to isolate the substring G132153. This string may have any number of digits but the pieces around it will not change. I have accomplished this with split but there must be a more elegant and compact way to do this. s ='a href=../active/Group_Detail.php?GroupID=G132153SvcType=1AType=V class=dvLinkG132153/a' t = s.split('') u = t[-1].split('') v = u[0] v 'G132153' Thanks, jvh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie look at Python and OO
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/An_Interview_with_Bjarne_Stroustrup.html Maybe BS thought he was joking, but IMO, it's true. Stroustrup: Remember the length of the average-sized 'C' project? About 6 months. Not nearly long enough for a guy with a wife and kids to earn enough to have a decent standard of living. Take the same project, design it in C++ and what do you get? I'll tell you. One to two years. I doubt very much that BS was involved at any point in writing it. You forgot to quote the bit at the end: [Note - for the humor-impaired, not a true story] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Better way to isolate string
HMS Surprise wrote: I suppose a one liner would look better, but I am alway leery of these things 'breaking'. t = s.split('')[-1].split('')[0] s ='a href=../active/Group_Detail.php? GroupID=G132153SvcType=1AType=V class=dvLinkG132153/a' Only if you're competing in an obscurity competition ;) If you're really confined to built-ins (ie you can't import a single module) then just go with your original solution. Why not? If you can import modules, then you want to look at the urlparser and cgi modules, I suspect. TJG -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PyGTK : a NEW simple way to code an app
I was a fan of SimpleGladeApp/tepache way to build a pygtk app. I've build a new efficient/dynamic way to build a pygtk app ... Here is an example : = class Fen(GladeApp): Window win .title=Hello @delete_event VBox HBox Label jo .label=kokotte entry myEntry .text=kuku gtkBuTTon b2 .label=33 @clicked Label jo .label=koko Button b .label=3 @clicked def init(self,m): self.jo.set_text(m) pass def on_b_clicked(self,*a): self.quit(3) def on_b2_clicked(self,*a): self.quit(33) def on_win_delete_event(self,*args): self.quit(4) f=Fen(koko2) print f.loop() = How it works : in fact, the __doc__ is converted as a glade file the tree of object is indented (like python way) you can see some common pygtk widget ... line starting with a dot is an property of the parent object. line starting with a @ is a declaration of a event of the parent object. widgets are not case sensitive, and can start with Gtk. If a second word is provided it will be used as an id, otherwise an unique id will be build according the type of widget. the window is created with glade, widgets are provided as attributs of the instance, and signals are autoconnected on method on_[widgetId]_[event](self,*args) (if a signal is missing in your class, it warns you at run time) It will not replace the use of glade-3 for complex widget ... but I think it's an easy way to code very easily/quickly a simple pygtk window/form. I think it could be really useful/handly for beginners too. for people which are involved in pygtk/python/gui ... i'd like to hear your comments/ideas ... Rq: i don't provide the code now, but it will be released in next version of GladeApp ( http://manatlan.infogami.com/GladeApp ) it works already, but i need to make packing properties available too ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: vim e autoindentazione commenti
Il Fri, 11 May 2007 13:15:01 GMT, Neil Cerutti ha scritto: :help format-comments (Spiacente per la mia scrittura difettosa. Sto utilizzando il traduttore di altavista.) Really sorry ^_^ I thought I was posting in it.comp.lang.python Thank you BTW! -- Alan Franzoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Togli .xyz dalla mia email per contattarmi. Remove .xyz from my address in order to contact me. - GPG Key Fingerprint (Key ID = FE068F3E): 5C77 9DC3 BD5B 3A28 E7BC 921A 0255 42AA FE06 8F3E -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie look at Python and OO
On 2007-05-11, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/An_Interview_with_Bjarne_Stroustrup.html Maybe BS thought he was joking, but IMO, it's true. Stroustrup: Remember the length of the average-sized 'C' project? About 6 months. Not nearly long enough for a guy with a wife and kids to earn enough to have a decent standard of living. Take the same project, design it in C++ and what do you get? I'll tell you. One to two years. I doubt very much that BS was involved at any point in writing it. You forgot to quote the bit at the end: [Note - for the humor-impaired, not a true story] My bad. I completely missed that -- I thought it was a real interview where BS was joking. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I just remembered at something about a TOAD! visi.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple Python REGEX Question
johnny wrote: I need to get the content inside the bracket. eg. some characters before bracket (3.12345). I need to get whatever inside the (), in this case 3.12345. How do you do this with python regular expression? import re x = re.search([0-9.]+, (3.12345)) print x.group(0) 3.12345 There's a lot more to the re module, of course. I'd suggest reading the manual, but this should get you started. Gary Herron -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Towards faster Python implementations - theory
Tim Golden wrote: sturlamolden wrote: On May 8, 5:53 pm, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point here is that we don't need language changes or declarations to make Python much faster. All we need are a few restrictions that insure that, when you're doing something unusual, the compiler can tell. I doubt if anyone disputes the gist of what you're saying[*], viz that Python could be made faster by using technique (a), (b) or (c) which have been successful elsewhere. At least that it's worth investgating. But the relevant bit of your last paragraph is at the start: We should Unless someone or someones has the time, inclination, money, backing, wherewithal etc. to implement this or any other measure of speeding-up, it's all pie-in-the-sky. Useful, maybe, as discussion of what options are viable, but a project of this magnitude doesn't just happen in some developer's lunchbreak. Focusing may help. Between Jython, PyPy, and Shed Skin, enough effort has been put in to produce something better than CPython, but none of those efforts resulted in something more useable than CPython. There's a commercial grade Python from ActiveState, but that's CPython in a cardboard box, I think. Another problem is that if the language is defined as whatever gets put in CPython, that discourages other implementations. The language needs to be standards-based. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Better way to isolate string
I suppose a one liner would look better, but I am alway leery of these things 'breaking'. t = s.split('')[-1].split('')[0] s ='a href=../active/Group_Detail.php? GroupID=G132153SvcType=1AType=V class=dvLinkG132153/a' jh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Simple Python REGEX Question
I need to get the content inside the bracket. eg. some characters before bracket (3.12345). I need to get whatever inside the (), in this case 3.12345. How do you do this with python regular expression? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: path stuff
On May 10, 6:08 pm, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Thu, 10 May 2007 19:04:30 -0300, fscked [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: ok, I lied, it is still doing the archived folders. Here is the code: import os, sys from path import path myfile = open(boxids.txt, r, 0) for line in myfile: d = 'D:\\Dir\\' + path(line.strip()) for f in d.walkfiles('*Config*.xml'): for dirpath, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(d): if Archived in dirnames: dirnames.remove(Archived) #skip this directory print f print 'Done' when it does the print f it still shows me the dirs i don't want to see. You are walking the directory structure *twice*, using two different methods at the same time. Also, there is no standard `path` module, and several implementations around, so it would be a good idea to tell us which one you use. If you want to omit a directory, and include just filenames matching a pattern: import os, sys, os.path, fnmatch def findinterestingfiles(root_dir): for dirpath, dirnames, filenames in os.walk(root_dir): if Archived in dirnames: dirnames.remove(Archived) for filename in fnmatch.filter(filenames, '*Config*.xml'): fullfn = os.path.join(dirpath, filename) print fullfn myfile = open(boxids.txt, r) for line in myfile: dirname = os.path.join('D:\\Dir\\', line.strip()) findinterestingfiles(dirname): myfile.close() -- Gabriel Genellina- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Should this code work? I get a syntax error and cannot figure out why. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Better way to isolate string
On May 11, 10:45 am, Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HMS Surprise wrote: I suppose a one liner would look better, but I am alway leery of these things 'breaking'. t = s.split('')[-1].split('')[0] s ='a href=../active/Group_Detail.php? GroupID=G132153SvcType=1AType=V class=dvLinkG132153/a' Only if you're competing in an obscurity competition ;) If you're really confined to built-ins (ie you can't import a single module) then just go with your original solution. Why not? If you can import modules, then you want to look at the urlparser and cgi modules, I suspect. TJG Thanks for replying Tim. Good point. jh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Towards faster Python implementations - theory
On 11 May, 18:04, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another problem is that if the language is defined as whatever gets put in CPython, that discourages other implementations. The language needs to be standards-based. Indeed. This was suggested by one of the speakers at last year's EuroPython with reference to the various proposals to remove map, reduce, lambda and so on from the language. The opinion was that if Python implementations change and leave the users either on unsupported releases or with the work of migrating their code continuously and/or to features that they don't find as intuitive or appropriate, some people would rather migrate their code to a language which is standardised and which can remain agreeable for the foreseeable future. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: software testing articles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Have you ever been interested in software testing? Giving you an in | depth analysis/knowledge on software testing!! Random non-Python IT topics are spam. Please desist. [Link to page with 75% ads deleted] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: File modes
On May 10, 7:11 pm, Jon Pentland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really see the use for being able to do that. Have you tried Well, I think I found a reason and it probably happens quite a bit. I open the file and read it into a list. I pop some elements from the list for processing and then write the shortened list back to disk to be available for other functions to access later, where later varies from seconds to days. There is no need to keep the file open till after the processing so I wish to write/flush/close right away. jvh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
File writing success
If file writing has no return value (http://docs.python.org/lib/bltin- file-objects.html), how do you know if the write was successful? Should one assume that if the open was successful then write are also? Thanks, jvh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
A newbie question about FileDialog in wxPython
Hi! I am opening files using the wx.FileDialog in wxPython. I want to modify the FileDialog such that some information about a highlighted file is displayed before I decide to open the file. This is what I tried: class ModifiedFileDialog(wx.FileDialog): def __init__(self,parent,message,wildcard,style): wx.FileDialog(self,parent,message,,,wildcard,style) width,height = self.GetSizeTuple() self.SetSizeWH(width,height+100) # and so on... I get an error when I try to change the size or make other changes. Could someone tell me how to make this work or direct me to some reference? Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Towards faster Python implementations - theory
sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On May 10, 4:02 pm, Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I know, I know. But that doesn't stop me from envying what the Lisp | community has achieved. But do not let your envy stop you from noticing and appreciating what the Python commnunity has achieved. | Python still sucks if we are using it for scientific simulations, Not if you use extensions compiled from C or Fortran. Doing so is not cheating, any more than using the C-coded methods of the builtin types. Leveraging existing code and compilers was part of Python's design. With the Numeric extensions, produced by people at the US nuke labs. scientific simulations were, I think, Python's first killer ap. | Sure it is only 150-200 times slower than C for these tasks, As a general statement, nonsense. A LinPack inversion of a 10k x 10k matrix takes the same time whether called from Python or a C program. The miniscule extra overhead of Python is more than made up for by the ability to call LinPack and other functions interactively. The extended buffer protocol, championed by Travis Oliphant and slated for 3.0, will make cooperation between extensions much easier. Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: File writing success
On May 11, 12:21 pm, HMS Surprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If file writing has no return value (http://docs.python.org/lib/bltin- file-objects.html), how do you know if the write was successful? Should one assume that if the open was successful then write are also? Thanks, jvh In Python, errors are not usually indicated by a return code. Instead, an exception should be raised for error conditions. The Python file semantics follows this. If the function returns instead of raising an exception, you may assume that the write completed successfully. Please note that the file objects may use buffers, so a call to the flush method may be needed to ensure that everything is on disk. K:\tempdir Volume in drive K is LEXAR MEDIA Volume Serial Number is - Directory of K:\temp 05/11/2007 01:14 PMDIR . 05/11/2007 01:14 PMDIR .. 0 File(s) 0 bytes 2 Dir(s) 75,071,488 bytes free K:\temppython Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win 32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. out = file(test.txt, wb) out.write( Hi! * 8000 ) Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: File writing success
On 2007-05-11, HMS Surprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If file writing has no return value (http://docs.python.org/lib/bltin- file-objects.html), how do you know if the write was successful? Because no exception was thrown? Although bear in mind that some errors might not become apparent until you close or flush the file. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Interesting list Validity (True/False)
Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Then why do I get the following results: C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -o print arg ['-o'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) python import sys _ver_ = 1.00 if '-h' in sys.argv or '--help' in sys.argv: print print help.py Version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print ''' Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0)''' sys.exit(0) else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) /python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
stealth screen scraping with python?
Folks: I am screen scraping a large volume of data from Yahoo Finance each evening, and parsing with Beautiful Soup. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on how to make it less obvious to Yahoo that this is what I am doing, as I fear that they probably monitor for this type of activity, and will soon ban my IP. -DE -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stealth screen scraping with python?
On 11 May 2007 12:32:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: I am screen scraping a large volume of data from Yahoo Finance each evening, and parsing with Beautiful Soup. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on how to make it less obvious to Yahoo that this is what I am doing, as I fear that they probably monitor for this type of activity, and will soon ban my IP. -DE So long as you are sending a regular http request, as from a browser, then they will have no way of knowing. Just keep your queries down to no more than once every 3-5 seconds and you should be fine. Rotate your IP, too, if you can. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/110/carmen_eric.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/eula.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: File writing success
HMS Surprise wrote: If file writing has no return value (http://docs.python.org/lib/bltin- file-objects.html), how do you know if the write was successful? If not, you'll get an error raised. Regards, -- . Facundo . Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stealth screen scraping with python?
On May 11, 2:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: I am screen scraping a large volume of data from Yahoo Finance each evening, and parsing with Beautiful Soup. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on how to make it less obvious to Yahoo that this is what I am doing, as I fear that they probably monitor for this type of activity, and will soon ban my IP. -DE Depends on what you're doing exactly. I've done something like this and it only hits the page once: URL = 'http://quote.yahoo.com/d/quotes.csv?s=%sf=sl1c1p2' TICKS = ('AMZN', 'AMD', 'EBAY', 'GOOG', 'MSFT', 'YHOO') u = urlopen(URL % ','.join(TICKS)) for data in u: tick, price, chg, per = data.split(',') # do something with data If you're grabbing all the data in one fell swoop (which is what you should aim for), then it's harder for Yahoo! to know what you're doing exactly. And I can't see why they'd care as that is all a browser does anyway. It's when you hit the site a bunch of times in a short period of time that sets off the alarms. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On 2007-05-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why do I get the following results: C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -o print arg ['-o'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) You got those results because that's what your program does. Were you intending it to do something else? If so, you're going to have to explain what you wanted, because we can't read your mind. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Hey, wait at a minute!! I want a visi.comdivorce!! ... you're not Clint Eastwood!! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
test
sorry just a test. Joe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 2:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Then why do I get the following results: C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -o print arg ['-o'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) python import sys _ver_ = 1.00 if '-h' in sys.argv or '--help' in sys.argv: print print help.py Version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print ''' Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0)''' sys.exit(0) else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) /python Does this clear things up? import sys _ver_ = 1.00 if '-h' in sys.argv or '--help' in sys.argv: print print help.py Version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print ''' Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0)''' sys.exit(0) else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True print if arg: print 'was True' else: print 'was False' print print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) ##C:\python25\userpython arghhh!.py -o ##print arg ['-o'] ##type(arg): type 'list' ##arg is True? False ## ##was True ## ##help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ## ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. ##Progam Exit (0) ##C:\python25\userpython arghhh!.py ##print arg [] ##type(arg): type 'list' ##arg is True? False ## ##was False ## ##help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ## [] is an unrecognized option. ##Progam Exit (0) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: test
Joe Eagar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sorry just a test. Sorry, you failed. You missed alt.test by a mile. sherm-- -- Web Hosting by West Virginians, for West Virginians: http://wv-www.net Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:20:44PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 3:55 pm, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got those results because that's what your program does. Were you intending it to do something else? If so, you're going to have to explain what you wanted, because we can't According to my output, it seems that arg is False even when I give an option of '-o' which according to the book should be True. No? '-o' is not equal to True. However, that does not mean it evaluates to false when tested by an if or while statement. If arg == ['-o'] then shouldn't arg == True return True and skip the if? No. See the folloing link regarding the truth value of an object: http://docs.python.org/lib/truth.html There are many objects other than True that evaluate to true in the context of an if/while statement. Just because an objecty has a true truth-value doesn't mean that it is equal to the True object. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Why don't you ever at enter any CONTESTS, visi.comMarvin?? Don't you know your own ZIPCODE? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 2:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Then why do I get the following results: C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -o print arg ['-o'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) python import sys _ver_ = 1.00 if '-h' in sys.argv or '--help' in sys.argv: print print help.py Version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print ''' Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0)''' sys.exit(0) else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) /python I hope this helps (I have tried to post this twice already but it seems to be going somewhere else) you help me. What I would like to happen is: else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True if arg != True: print No Option Provided print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) But as you can see by my output ['-o'] seems to be False as well as [] so the if happens regardless. According to the Book, ['-o'] should return True which should fail the if, no? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Path python versions and Macosx
Hi everyone, I use python on macosx with textmate as editor (great program). I also use macport to install unix programs from the command line and I find it great too. Well I would like to have all my modules in the path when I'm using textmate AND when I use the commandline (ipython), but because textmate and the command line use different python versions they also search in different places.. I found somewhere to write .pythonrc.py like this #!/usr/bin/env python import sys PATH='/opt/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/' sys.path.append(PATH) del sys But it doesn't work either, I also tried to append this PATH=/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin:/opt/ local/lib/python2.4/site-packages:${PATH} to .bash_profile but nothing. Where should I set this variables?? Thanks a lot -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
name capitalization of built-in types, True, and False
I see that naming conventions are such that classes usually get named CamelCase. So why are the built-in types named all lowercase (like list, dict, set, bool, etc.)? And names for instances of classes are usually written in lowercase, like foo in ``foo = CamelCase()``. So why are True and False (instances of bool) capitalized? Shouldn't they be true and false? Same goes for None. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Time
I need to convert the string below into epoch seconds so that I can perform substractions and additions. I assume I will need to break it up into a time_t struct and use mktime. Two questions if you will please: Is there a way to use multiple separator characters for split similar to awk's [|] style? Could you point to an example of a python time_t struct? 05/11/2007 15:30 Thanks, jvh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Time
Could you point to an example of a python time_t struct? Or maybe that should be a tm struct??? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simulating simple electric circuits
Dave Baum wrote: Sounds reasonable. Depending on the size of your network, I might not worry too much about precomputing and saving information. Thanks. Yes, I'm actually testing it presently without any optimizations and it runs very well. If your circuit has loops in it (where the output of a later relay circles back to an earlier relay's coil), then it is possible for the circuit to oscillate, so you might have to be careful about this. That's no substancial problem, with real relay circuits this happens sometimes too :) (even in the systems I'm modelling) After all, I'm quite pleased now with how well the last approach I mentioned works. I've been able to model a medium complex switching sequence today, and it worked flawlessly. (The only problem I have now arises when I make relays react delayed, using Twisted's reactor.callLater. Sometimes, a relay gets current and loses it shortly after, but the event loop in rare cases executes the status change functions the other way round (no current, then current). I've been trying to fix that by detection if a timer already runs. Anyhow, the inconsistencies only vanish if I let the relays react delayless again. I'm going to have to look into this further ...) Regards, Björn P.S.: If anyone happens to be interested in details, just ask, I'll post some code. -- BOFH excuse #319: Your computer hasn't been returning all the bits it gets from the Internet. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 12:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Your confusion stems from the fact that for a given object, the answer to the following three questions can be vastly different: a) Is the object identical to True? b) Is the object equal to True? c) Is the object considered to be True in an if statement? Observe: def check_trueness(obj): ...if obj is True: print repr(obj), is identical to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not identical to True. ...if obj == True: print repr(obj), is equal to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not equal to True. ...if obj: print repr(obj), is considered to be True by if. ...else: print repr(obj), is not considered to be True by if. ... check_trueness(True) True is identical to True. True is equal to True. True is considered to be True by if. check_trueness(1) 1 is not identical to True. 1 is equal to True. 1 is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([1]) [1] is not identical to True. [1] is not equal to True. [1] is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([]) [] is not identical to True. [] is not equal to True. [] is not considered to be True by if. Testing whether an object is equal to True is a much stronger test than whether it is considered to be True in an 'if' statement, and the test for identity is stronger still. Testing whether an object is equal to True or identical to True is useless in most Python programs. So, rather than doing this: if thing==True: # blah Just do this: if thing: # blah Hope this helps, -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Problems with grid() layout under tkinter
Dear all I am trying to make a small wrapper program for textbased program and it is going well but I have one problem. Namely that I simply do not understand how this grid thing work. I have assigned every widget a specific placement in a grid but when I am running the program it looks very strange. I hope you can help me. A example of the program http://tjansson.dyndns.dk/apache2-default/strange-grid.jpg and the code http://tjansson.dyndns.dk/tjansson/gui.py Kind regards Thomas Jansson -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 4:32 pm, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:20:44PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 3:55 pm, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You got those results because that's what your program does. Were you intending it to do something else? If so, you're going to have to explain what you wanted, because we can't According to my output, it seems that arg is False even when I give an option of '-o' which according to the book should be True. No? '-o' is not equal to True. However, that does not mean it evaluates to false when tested by an if or while statement. If arg == ['-o'] then shouldn't arg == True return True and skip the if? No. See the folloing link regarding the truth value of an object: http://docs.python.org/lib/truth.html There are many objects other than True that evaluate to true in the context of an if/while statement. Just because an objecty has a true truth-value doesn't mean that it is equal to the True object. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Why don't you ever at enter any CONTESTS, visi.comMarvin?? Don't you know your own ZIPCODE? OK. Then how would you differenciate between a call with an option versus one without (e.g. help.py -o (where arg == ['-o']) Vs. help.py (where arg == []))? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 14:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Then how would you differenciate between a call with an option versus one without (e.g. help.py -o (where arg == ['-o']) Vs. help.py (where arg == []))? if arg: print With options else: print Without options -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 5:07 pm, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 12:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Your confusion stems from the fact that for a given object, the answer to the following three questions can be vastly different: a) Is the object identical to True? b) Is the object equal to True? c) Is the object considered to be True in an if statement? Observe: def check_trueness(obj): ...if obj is True: print repr(obj), is identical to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not identical to True. ...if obj == True: print repr(obj), is equal to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not equal to True. ...if obj: print repr(obj), is considered to be True by if. ...else: print repr(obj), is not considered to be True by if. ... check_trueness(True) True is identical to True. True is equal to True. True is considered to be True by if. check_trueness(1) 1 is not identical to True. 1 is equal to True. 1 is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([1]) [1] is not identical to True. [1] is not equal to True. [1] is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([]) [] is not identical to True. [] is not equal to True. [] is not considered to be True by if. Testing whether an object is equal to True is a much stronger test than whether it is considered to be True in an 'if' statement, and the test for identity is stronger still. Testing whether an object is equal to True or identical to True is useless in most Python programs. So, rather than doing this: if thing==True: # blah Just do this: if thing: # blah Hope this helps, -- Carsten Haesehttp://informixdb.sourceforge.net- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks Carsten ( all), I will give the if thing: # blah trick. I guess I am starting to seem my own confusion. As Grant mentioned, I was comparing ['-o'] to True which of course is False :o) However, how would you test for the falsness of the object arg? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 14:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, how would you test for the falsness of the object arg? if not arg: # stuff -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 5:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 5:07 pm, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 12:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Your confusion stems from the fact that for a given object, the answer to the following three questions can be vastly different: a) Is the object identical to True? b) Is the object equal to True? c) Is the object considered to be True in an if statement? Observe: def check_trueness(obj): ...if obj is True: print repr(obj), is identical to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not identical to True. ...if obj == True: print repr(obj), is equal to True. ...else: print repr(obj), is not equal to True. ...if obj: print repr(obj), is considered to be True by if. ...else: print repr(obj), is not considered to be True by if. ... check_trueness(True) True is identical to True. True is equal to True. True is considered to be True by if. check_trueness(1) 1 is not identical to True. 1 is equal to True. 1 is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([1]) [1] is not identical to True. [1] is not equal to True. [1] is considered to be True by if. check_trueness([]) [] is not identical to True. [] is not equal to True. [] is not considered to be True by if. Testing whether an object is equal to True is a much stronger test than whether it is considered to be True in an 'if' statement, and the test for identity is stronger still. Testing whether an object is equal to True or identical to True is useless in most Python programs. So, rather than doing this: if thing==True: # blah Just do this: if thing: # blah Hope this helps, -- Carsten Haesehttp://informixdb.sourceforge.net-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks Carsten ( all), I will give the if thing: # blah trick. I guess I am starting to seem my own confusion. As Grant mentioned, I was comparing ['-o'] to True which of course is False :o) However, how would you test for the falsness of the object arg?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Would that be arg is not True: # blah.? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 5:19 pm, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 14:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, how would you test for the falsness of the object arg? if not arg: # stuff -- Carsten Haesehttp://informixdb.sourceforge.net I think that is the ticket Carsten! Thanks for all the good information all y'all. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: setting extra data to a wx.textctrl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 10:51 pm, Pom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello group! I have an application which uses a lot of mysql data fields, all the same data type (floats). I created a panel which executes a SELECT * FROM tablename and makes as much fields as needed, using de cursor.description as wx.statictext and the cursors field contents copied into wx.textctrls. At creation time, I loop over all the fields in the record and create a tuple which contains ((textctrl1, fieldname1), (textctrl2, fieldname2), ...) so I can keep track of which textctrl holds which piece of fielddata. The problem I'm having is: to know the fieldname in an text_event, I use event.GetEventObject(), then perform an iteration over the tuple and when I find a match I use the field name to update the mysqltable. When having a few fields, this is ok. But I have over 100 fields in 1 record and it really slows things down. Now my question is: should I use a python dictionary (with an object as first lookup field) ? On windows, I've seen a Tag property in a textbox which was meant to be used for this kind of stuff. Maybe it's better to override the wx.textctrl so I can add an extra string value? Anyone having the best solution for this ? thx! Both of your ideas seem sound to me. You could also look into using statically assigned IDs that increment by one. Then you could just increment or decrement by one and look up the field by ID. Of course, that might get ugly and there are some IDs that are supposedly reserved. But it's an idea. Also, I've heard that Dabo (http://dabodev.com/) is good for database work. You might look at that. To get the quickest and most on target answers to wxPython questions, I recommend the wxPython users-group mailing list: http://www.wxpython.org/maillist.php Mike thx! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.lang.python: [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False To test wether something is true use if. To test wether something is false use if not. The python values True and False are for when you need to *store* a boolean value (for later testing). I you want to to see if an arbitry expression would test as true or false at the interactive prompt use bool(): bool([]) False bool(['-o']) True There is *never* any need to write things like: expression == True or: expression == False Once you stop doing this things will become much simpler. Rob. -- http://www.victim-prime.dsl.pipex.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
On May 11, 3:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 2:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, First let me appologise if this has been answered but I could not find an acurate answer to this interesting problem. If the following is true: C:\Python25\rg.pypython Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. [] == [] True ['-o'] == [] False ['-o'] == False False Then why do I get the following results: C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -o print arg ['-o'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) python import sys _ver_ = 1.00 if '-h' in sys.argv or '--help' in sys.argv: print print help.py Version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print ''' Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0)''' sys.exit(0) else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) /python I hope this helps (I have tried to post this twice already but it seems to be going somewhere else) you help me. What I would like to happen is: else: arg = sys.argv[1:] print 'print arg', arg print 'type(arg):', type(arg) print 'arg is True?', arg == True if arg != True: print No Option Provided print help.py version, _ver_, Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 print , arg, is an unrecognized option. print Progam Exit (0) sys.exit(0) But as you can see by my output ['-o'] seems to be False as well as [] so the if happens regardless. According to the Book, ['-o'] should return True which should fail the if, no? You're mistaking the porperties of an object for the object itself. if arg: tests the property (of being empty). if arg==True: tests the type property (whether a list is a boolean). Change the code I gave above to be: print if arg: print 'The argument given was:',arg else: print 'No argument given' print then you'll get ##C:\python25\userpython arghhh!.py -o ##print arg ['-o'] ##type(arg): type 'list' ##arg is True? False ## ##The argument given was: ['-o'] ## ##help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ## ['-o'] is an unrecognized option. ##Progam Exit (0) ## ##C:\python25\userpython arghhh!.py ##print arg [] ##type(arg): type 'list' ##arg is True? False ## ##No argument given ## ##help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ## [] is an unrecognized option. ##Progam Exit (0) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Interesting list Validity (True/False)
Just an update of my output after Carsten and company's advice: out C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -h help.py Version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 Options : -h, --help -- display this message Progam Exit (0) C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -i print arg ['-i'] type(arg): type 'list' arg is True? False help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-i'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py -i help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 ['-i'] is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) C:\Python25\rg.pyhelp.py No Option provided help.py version 1.0 Copyright RDEG (c) 2007 No Option is an unrecognized option. Progam Exit (0) /out Thanks again. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Time
Sorry, reading a little closer I see that the time tuple is apparently an ordinary list. jvh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Re: OMG BRITNEYS AT IT AGAIN AGAIN!!!!!!
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Recursion limit problems
Hello everyone, I am runing into recursion limit problems. I have found that the culprit was related to the __hash__ function that I had assigned to the objects that were added to a set. Basically my __hash__ function is the following: def __hash__(self): out_int = 0 for property,value in self: out_int ^= hash( property )^hash( value ) return out_int And the iterator for this object is: def __iter__(self): for property,value in self.__dict__.iteritems(): yield property,value After commenting the __hash__ function and using the default provided by Python (I suppose it is based on the position in memory of the object), the recursion limit problems went away. (This problem was happening even after increasing the recursion limit to the maximum of my platform, MacOSX). I am not that versed in Python, so I don't know exactly I could do to overcome this problem, any ideas are deeply appreciated. Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list