[ANN] Leipzig Python User Group - Meeting, December 14, 2010, 08:00pm

2010-12-12 Thread Stefan Schwarzer
=== Leipzig Python User Group ===

We will meet on Tuesday, December, 14th, 8:00 pm at the
training center of Python Academy in Leipzig, Germany
( http://www.python-academy.com/center/find.html ).

Food and soft drinks are provided. Please send a short
confirmation mail to i...@python-academy.de, so we can
prepare appropriately.

Everybody who uses Python, plans to do so or is interested
in learning more about the language is welcome.

While the meeting language will be mainly German, we will
provide English translation if needed.

Current information about the meetings are at
http://www.python-academy.com/user-group .

Stefan


== Leipzig Python User Group ===

Wir treffen uns am Dienstag, 14. Dezember 2010 um 20:00 Uhr
im Schulungszentrum der Python Academy in Leipzig
( http://www.python-academy.de/Schulungszentrum/anfahrt.html ).

Für das leibliche Wohl wird gesorgt. Eine Anmeldung unter
i...@python-academy.de wäre nett, damit wir genug Essen
besorgen können.

Willkommen ist jeder, der Interesse an Python hat, die
Sprache bereits nutzt oder nutzen möchte.

Viele Grüße
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ANN: cssutils 0.9.8a1

2010-12-12 Thread Christof

what is it
--
A Python package to parse and build CSS Cascading Style Sheets.
(Not a renderer though!)


about this release
--
0.9.8a1 is an early alpha release. Please note the *major* changes in 
the css value API.



main changes

+ **API CHANGE (major)**
replace CSSValue with PropertyValue, Value and other classes.

NEW CLASSES:
:class:`cssutils.css.PropertyValue`
replaces CSSValue and CSSValueList

- is iterable (iterates over all single Value objects which 
in soruce CSS might be separated by , / or  
- a comma separated list of IDENT values is no longer 
handled as a single String (e.g. ``Arial, sans-serif``)


:class:`cssutils.css.Value`
replaces CSSPrimitiveValue with separate ``value`` and 
``type`` info (value is typed, so e.g. string for e.g. STRING, IDENT or 
URI values, int or float) and is base class for more specific values like:


:class:`cssutils.css.URIValue`
replaces CSSPrimitiveValue, additional attribute ``uri``

:class:`cssutils.css.DimensionValue`
replaces CSSPrimitiveValue, additional attribute ``dimension``

:class:`cssutils.css.ColorValue`
replaces CSSPrimitiveValue, additional attribute ``red``, 
``green``, ``blue`` and ``alpha``


**TODO: Not yet complete, only rgb, rgba, hsl, hsla and has 
values use this object and color and alpha information no done yet!**


:class:`cssutils.css.CSSFunction`
replaces CSSPrimitiveValue function, not complete yet

also renamed ``ExpressionValue`` to 
:class:`cssutils.css.MSValue` with new API


- IMPROVEMENT/CHANGE: Validation of color values is tighter now. Values 
like ``hsl(1, 2, 3)`` do not validate as it must be ``hsl(1, 2%, 3%)``. 
This mostly effects HSL/A and RGB/A notation.


- **IMPROVEMENT**: New Value parsing and API accelerate parsing of style 
declarations which take about 20-30% less time now. Of course this 
depends on the complexity of your styles.


+ BUGFIX: fixes issue #41, #42, #45, #46
PropertyValue.value returns value without any comments now, else 
use PropertyValue.cssText


- FEATURE: ``cssutils.replaceUrls()`` accepts as first argument a 
`cssutils.css.CSSStyleSheet` but now also a

:class:`cssutils.css.CSSStyle


license
---
cssutils is published under the LGPL version 3 or later, see
http://cthedot.de/cssutils/

If you have other licensing needs please let me know.

download

For download options see http://cthedot.de/cssutils/

cssutils needs Python 2.4 and higher or Jython 2.5 and higher (tested with
Python 2.7.1(x64), 2.6.5(x64), 2.5.4(x32), 2.4.4(x32) and Jython 2.5.1 
on Win7x64

only)


Bug reports (via Google code), comments, etc are very much appreciated! 
Thanks.


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Re: Ways of accessing this mailing list?

2010-12-12 Thread Ben Finney
Harishankar v.harishan...@gmail.com writes:

 The advantage of a proper newsreader [program] is that it quotes
 correctly (i.e. quote at top, reply below).

That's a function of the person typing into it, not of the program.

Placing the cursor at the top of the message allows the person to trim
the superfluous parts of the quoted material, replying in-line to each
point as they work their way down.

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Re: Ways of accessing this mailing list?

2010-12-12 Thread Harishankar
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:18:52 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:

 That's a function of the person typing into it, not of the program.

I was talking about the default program behaviour. Yes, you can move the 
cursor up or down, but I was talking about the way regular e-mail clients 
generally handle quoted blocks.



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Re: Bind C++ program for use with both Python 2.x and 3.x

2010-12-12 Thread Stefan Behnel

Peter C., 11.12.2010 23:41:

Hello, I am looking at the possibility of making a program in C++. The
catch is it will require the ability to work with binding for use with
scripting in both Python 2.x and 3.x for various tool plugins.


Do I read this right that you want your program to be written in C++, and 
use an embedded Python interpreter to provide scripting capabilities?


Is there a reason you'd want to write the application itself in C++ in the 
first place? If it's new code, it's likely faster to write it Python 
directly. Usually, that also leads to a lot less code, which helps in 
keeping the code more maintainable.




Is
there any way to bind a C++ app to work with both Python 2.x and 3.x
using the Python C API? Note if I could I'd just do Python 3, however
I need Python 2 support to allow for the use of this application as a
plugin in apps that use Python 2 as well.


The easiest (and fastest etc.) way to do that is to write the glue code in 
Cython. It generates portable C/C++ code that supports Python 2.3 to 3.2. 
However, if you ship binaries, you will still need to provide them for the 
different Python versions (even for different Py2.x versions), as the 
runtimes are not binary compatible.


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default argument in method

2010-12-12 Thread ernest
Hi,

I'd like to have a reference to an instance attribute as
default argument in a method. It doesn't work because
self is not defined at the time the method signature is
evaluated. For example:

class C(object):
def __init__(self):
self.foo = 5
def m(self, val=self.foo):
return val

Raises NameError because 'self' is not defined.
The obvious solution is put val=None in the signature
and set val to the appropriate value inside the method
(if val is None: ...), but I wonder if there's another way.

Cheers,
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Re: default argument in method

2010-12-12 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:35 AM, ernest nfdi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd like to have a reference to an instance attribute as
 default argument in a method. It doesn't work because
 self is not defined at the time the method signature is
 evaluated. For example:

 class C(object):
    def __init__(self):
        self.foo = 5
    def m(self, val=self.foo):
        return val

 Raises NameError because 'self' is not defined.
 The obvious solution is put val=None in the signature
 and set val to the appropriate value inside the method
 (if val is None: ...), but I wonder if there's another way.

Nope, not really. There are some more complicated slight variations on
the same theme (e.g. hoisting the idiom into a decorator), but they're
of fairly dubious merit; just use the straightforward idiom you
already outlined.

Cheers,
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Re: class browser

2010-12-12 Thread rusi
On Dec 8, 11:24 pm, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 13:18 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:
  If I have a medium to large python code base to browse/study, what are
  the class browsers available?

 Monodevelop has good Python support which includes a working Python
 class browser for Python projects  solutions.
 http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page

Ok downloaded mono.
How do I import an existing project?
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Re: python-parser running Beautiful Soup needs to be reviewed

2010-12-12 Thread Stef Mientki
I've no opinion.
 I'm just struggling with BeautifulSoup myself, finding it one of the 
 toughest libs I've seen ;-)

 Really? While I'm by no means an expert, I find it very easy to work with. 
 It's very well
 structured IMHO.
I think the cause lies in the documentation.
The PySide documentation is much easier to understand (at least for me)

http://www.pyside.org/docs/pyside/PySide/QtWebKit/QWebElement.html

cheers,
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Objects and validation

2010-12-12 Thread python
I have a routine in Python which is extracting information from a
website. This information is read and inserted into objects.

I currently have all the validations and checks implemented in the
routines which are reading the HTML and creating the objects. It is
however also possible to move all the validations into the class itself.
What is considered the best practice for this: validation in the
functions which read the information and creates the objects or in the
class itself?

Thijs
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Re: Reading by positions plain text files

2010-12-12 Thread javivd
On Dec 1, 7:15 am, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
 On 2010-12-01, javivd javiervan...@gmail.com wrote:









  On Nov 30, 11:43 pm, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
  On 2010-11-30, javivd javiervan...@gmail.com wrote:

   I have a case now in wich anotherfilehas been provided (besides the
   database) that tells me in wich column of thefileis every variable,
   because there isn't any blank or tab character that separates the
   variables, they are stick together. This secondfilespecify the
   variable name and his position:

   VARIABLE NAME      POSITION (COLUMN) INFILE
   var_name_1                 123-123
   var_name_2                 124-125
   var_name_3                 126-126
   ..
   ..
   var_name_N                 512-513 (last positions)

  I am unclear on the format of these positions.  They do not look like
  what I would expect from absolute references in the data.  For instance,
  123-123 may only contain one byte??? which could change for different
  encodings and how you mark line endings.  Frankly, the use of the
  world columns in the header suggests that the data *is* separated by
  line endings rather then absolute position and the position refers to
  the line number. In which case, you can use splitlines() to break up
  the data and then address the proper line by index.  Nevertheless,
  you can usefile.seek() to move to an absolute offset in thefile,
  if that really is what you are looking for.

  I work in a survey research firm. the data im talking about has a lot
  of 0-1 variables, meaning yes or no of a lot of questions. so only one
  position of a character is needed (not byte), explaining the 123-123
  kind of positions of a lot of variables.

 Thenfile.seek() is what you are looking for; but, you need to be aware of
 line endings and encodings as indicated.  Make sure that you open thefile
 using whatever encoding was used when it was generated or you could have
 problems with multibyte characters affecting the offsets.

I've tried your advice and something is wrong. Here is my code,



f = open(r'c:c:\somefile.txt', 'w')

f.write('0123456789\n0123456789\n0123456789')

f.close()

f = open(r'c:\somefile.txt', 'r')


for line in f:
f.seek(3,0)
print f.read(1) #just to know if its printing the rigth column

I used .seek() in this manner, but is not working.

Let me put the problem in another way. I have .txt file with NO
headers, and NO blanks between any columns. But i know that from
columns, say 13 to 15, is variable VARNAME_1 (of course, a three digit
var). How can extract that column in a list call VARNAME_1??

Obviously, this should extend to all the positions and variables i
have to extract from the file.

Thanks!

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while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Max Countryman
I'm sure this has been brought up many times, but a quick Googling didn't yield 
the decisive results I was hoping for, so I apologize if this has already been 
addressed in great detail somewhere else.

I am wondering what the rationale is behind preferring while True over while 1? 
For me, it seems that using True provides more clarity, but is that the only 
benefit? Is while 1 more prone to errors?


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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 12.12.2010 15:14, schrieb Max Countryman:
 I'm sure this has been brought up many times, but a quick Googling didn't 
 yield the decisive results I was hoping for, so I apologize if this has 
 already been addressed in great detail somewhere else.
 
 I am wondering what the rationale is behind preferring while True over while 
 1? For me, it seems that using True provides more clarity, but is that the 
 only benefit? Is while 1 more prone to errors?

In Python 2.x, while 1 is slightly faster than while True. The
interpreter can't optimize while True because the name True can be
bind to another value. In Python 3.x it's no longer possible to rebind
the names True and False just like None in Python 2.x

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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Krister Svanlund
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Max Countryman m...@me.com wrote:
 I'm sure this has been brought up many times, but a quick Googling didn't 
 yield the decisive results I was hoping for, so I apologize if this has 
 already been addressed in great detail somewhere else.

 I am wondering what the rationale is behind preferring while True over while 
 1? For me, it seems that using True provides more clarity, but is that the 
 only benefit? Is while 1 more prone to errors?

It's just silly to use 1 since it will evaluate to True either way.
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Re: Objects and validation

2010-12-12 Thread pakalk
On 12 Gru, 15:28, pyt...@lists.fastmail.net wrote:
 I have a routine in Python which is extracting information from a
 website. This information is read and inserted into objects.

 I currently have all the validations and checks implemented in the
 routines which are reading the HTML and creating the objects. It is
 however also possible to move all the validations into the class itself.
 What is considered the best practice for this: validation in the
 functions which read the information and creates the objects or in the
 class itself?

setter

Data sources may differ, and may be used for many reasons, so
validating data there is not a good idea. Object has to keep correct
data, so it should validate it. If you want to have object created no
matter what, you can add validate() method, but you may also use
setters for this - error will be raised every try to set wrong data.
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Re: stuck with Pexpect script need help!!

2010-12-12 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 12/10/2010 10:02 PM Darshak Bavishi said...
snip

Pexpect is intended for UNIX-like operating systems.)

snip


Can we use pexpect from windows host machine ?!



I expect not...

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Re: Ways of accessing this mailing list?

2010-12-12 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 12/12/2010 2:07 AM Harishankar said...

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:18:52 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:


That's a function of the person typing into it, not of the program.


I was talking about the default program behaviour. Yes, you can move the
cursor up or down, but I was talking about the way regular e-mail clients
generally handle quoted blocks.



http://web.archive.org/web/20041224190115/lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2002-Oct/1698.html

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Re: stuck with Pexpect script need help!!

2010-12-12 Thread Alexander Kapps

On 12.12.2010 17:06, Emile van Sebille wrote:

On 12/10/2010 10:02 PM Darshak Bavishi said...
snip

Pexpect is intended for UNIX-like operating systems.)

snip


Can we use pexpect from windows host machine ?!



I expect not...

Emile



According to [1] you might get it working with the Cygwin port of 
Python. Alternatively try WinPexpect [2]


[1] http://www.noah.org/wiki/Pexpect#Python
[2] http://bitbucket.org/geertj/winpexpect/wiki/Home
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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
On 12/12/2010 10:30 AM, Christian Heimes wrote:
 Am 12.12.2010 15:14, schrieb Max Countryman:
 I'm sure this has been brought up many times, but a quick Googling didn't 
 yield the decisive results I was hoping for, so I apologize if this has 
 already been addressed in great detail somewhere else.

 I am wondering what the rationale is behind preferring while True over while 
 1? For me, it seems that using True provides more clarity, but is that the 
 only benefit? Is while 1 more prone to errors?
 
 In Python 2.x, while 1 is slightly faster than while True. The
 interpreter can't optimize while True because the name True can be
 bind to another value. In Python 3.x it's no longer possible to rebind
 the names True and False just like None in Python 2.x
 
Would you care to quantify how much CPU time that optimization will
typically save for a loop of fair magnitude (say, a billion iterations)?

Python is designed to provide readable code. Writing

while True:
...

is much more legible than its pre-True couterpart

while 1:
...

and is, I'd say, therefore to be preferred (except in a code base
intended to compile on 2.2 and before).

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Re: Reading by positions plain text files

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-12, javivd javiervan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Dec 1, 7:15 am, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
 On 2010-12-01, javivd javiervan...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Nov 30, 11:43 pm, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
  encodings and how you mark line endings.  Frankly, the use of the
  world columns in the header suggests that the data *is* separated by
  line endings rather then absolute position and the position refers to
  the line number. In which case, you can use splitlines() to break up
  the data and then address the proper line by index.  Nevertheless,

^^
Note that I specifically questioned the use of absolute file position vs.
postion within a column.  These are two different things.  You use
different methods to extract each.

  I work in a survey research firm. the data im talking about has a lot
  of 0-1 variables, meaning yes or no of a lot of questions. so only one
  position of a character is needed (not byte), explaining the 123-123
  kind of positions of a lot of variables.

 Thenfile.seek() is what you are looking for; but, you need to be aware of
 line endings and encodings as indicated.  Make sure that you open thefile
 using whatever encoding was used when it was generated or you could have
 problems with multibyte characters affecting the offsets.

 f = open(r'c:c:\somefile.txt', 'w')

I suspect you don't need to use the c: twice.

 f.write('0123456789\n0123456789\n0123456789')

Note that the file you a writing contains three lines.  Is the data that
you are looking for located at an absolute position in the file or on a
position within a individual line?  If the latter, not that line endings
may be composed of more then a single character.

 f.write('0123456789\n0123456789\n0123456789')
  ^ postion 3 using fseek()

 for line in f:

Perhaps you meant:
for character in f.read():
or
for line in f.read().splitlines()

 f.seek(3,0)

This will always take you back to the exact fourth position in the file
(indicated above).

 I used .seek() in this manner, but is not working.

It is working the way it is supposed to.

If you want the absolution position 3 in a file then:

f = open('somefile.txt', 'r')
f.seek(3)
variable = f.read(1)

If you want the absolute position in a column:
f = open('somefile.txt', 'r').read().splitlines()
for column in f:
variable = column[3]
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Re: Needed: Real-world examples for Python's Cooperative Multiple Inheritance

2010-12-12 Thread Daniel Urban
 So far, the only situation I can find where method names necessarily
 overlap is for the basics like __init__(), close(), flush(), and
 save() where multiple parents need to have their own initialization
 and finalization.

One other possibility is subclasses of the JSONEncoder class. For
example the writer of class X provides a class, XJSONEncoder, which is
able to serialize X instances (by extending the default method).
Similarly there is a YJSONEncoder class, which can serialize Y
instances. Those classes implement the default method like this:

def default(self, o):
if isinstance(o, X):
... # serialize the X instance
else:
return super().default(o) # let the next in the MRO try to handle it

If YJSONEncoder encodes Y instances similarly, one can create an
encoder class, which can encode both X and Y instances:

class XYJSONEncoder(XJSONEncoder, YJSONEncoder): pass

It is usable this way:
json.dumps([X(), Y()], cls=XYJSONEncoder)


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Re: Reading by positions plain text files

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-12, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
 I used .seek() in this manner, but is not working.

 It is working the way it is supposed to.
 If you want the absolute position in a column:

   f = open('somefile.txt', 'r').read().splitlines()
   for column in f:
   variable = column[3]

or:
f = open('somefile.txt', 'r')
for column in f.readlines():
variable = column[3]
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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 12.12.2010 19:31, schrieb Steve Holden:
 Would you care to quantify how much CPU time that optimization will
 typically save for a loop of fair magnitude (say, a billion iterations)?

The difference is minimal but measurable for very tight loops.

$ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while 1: i+=1 if i ==
100: break
20 loops, best of 3: 89.7 msec per loop
$ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while True: i+=1 if i ==
100: break
20 loops, best of 3: 117 msec per loop

In Python 2.x the peep hole optimizer can't remove the global lookup and
check for trueness for while True.

 def while1():
... while 1:
... pass
...
 import dis
 dis.dis(while1)
  2   0 SETUP_LOOP   3 (to 6)

  3 3 JUMP_ABSOLUTE3
6 LOAD_CONST   0 (None)
  9 RETURN_VALUE
 def whiletrue():
... while True:
... pass
...
 dis.dis(whiletrue)
  2   0 SETUP_LOOP  12 (to 15)
3 LOAD_GLOBAL  0 (True)
  6 JUMP_IF_FALSE4 (to 13)
  9 POP_TOP

  3  10 JUMP_ABSOLUTE3
   13 POP_TOP
 14 POP_BLOCK
   15 LOAD_CONST   0 (None)
 18 RETURN_VALUE

 Python is designed to provide readable code. Writing
 
 while True:
 ...
 
 is much more legible than its pre-True couterpart
 
 while 1:
 ...

No argue with that! I was merely making a point that while 1 executes
different byte code than while True. Readability is important but
sometimes speed is of the essence. while 1 is one of the few tricks to
speed up tight loops a bit.

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Re: Wanted: slow regexes

2010-12-12 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello,

On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 04:24:02PM +, MRAB wrote:
 Interestingly, that webpage says that:

 (a x 10) =~ /^(ab?)*$/

 caused Perl to segfault. I tried it and it didn't segfault, but it
 didn't match either

It doesn't segfault but produces a warning with
-w:

xr...@xrgtn-q40:~$ perl -wse 'print((a x 10) =~ /^(ab?)*$/)'
Complex regular subexpression recursion limit (32766) exceeded at -e line 1.
xr...@xrgtn-q40:~$ 

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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Martin v. Loewis
 Python is designed to provide readable code. Writing

 while True:
 ...

 is much more legible than its pre-True couterpart

 while 1:
 ...
 
 No argue with that!

I actually want to argue with that: I find while 1 more legible.
That's probably because
a) I'm use to it, and
b) the English words while and True don't mean much to me,
   I need recognize them, and recognizing True is slightly more
   difficult than recognizing 1.

In the end, in any project, there should be coding conventions,
and authors should follow them. What is legible is IMO much more
determined by convention than intuition, at least to experienced
programmers (i.e. those that have been following the convention for
a long time).

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Python on wikipedia

2010-12-12 Thread DevPlayer
Snapshot in time, hey look at that; someone used Python as THE example
of what a programming language is on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language
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Re: Python on wikipedia

2010-12-12 Thread pakalk
On 12 Gru, 22:21, DevPlayer devpla...@gmail.com wrote:
 Snapshot in time, hey look at that; someone used Python as THE example
 of what a programming language is on 
 Wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language

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Directly calling python's function arguments dispatcher

2010-12-12 Thread Pascal Chambon

Hello

I've encountered several times, when dealing with adaptation of function 
signatures, the need for explicitly resolving complex argument sets into 
a simple variable mapping. Explanations.



Consider that function:

def foo(a1, a2, *args, **kwargs):
pass

calling foo(1, a2=2, a3=3)

will map these arguments to local variables like these:
{
'a1': 1,
'a2': 2,
'args': tuple(),
'kwarg's: {'a3': 3}
}

That's a quite complex resolution mechanism, which must handle 
positional and keyword arguments, and deal with both collision and 
missing argument cases.


Normally, the simplest way to invoke this mechanism is to define a 
function with the proper signature, and then call it (like, here, foo()).


But there are cases where a more meta approach would suit me well.

For example when adapting xmlrpc methods : due to the limitations of 
xmlrpc (no keyword arguments), we use a trick, i.e our xmlrpc functions 
only accept a single argument, a struct (python dict) which gets 
unpacked on arrival, when calling the real functions exposed by the 
xmlrpc server.


But on client side, I'd like to offer a more native interface (allowing 
both positional and keyword arguments), without having to manually 
define an adapter function for each xmlrpc method.


To summarize, I'd like to implement a magic method like this one (please 
don't care about performance isues for now):


class XmlrpcAdapter:
def __getattr__(self, funcname):
# we create an on-the-fly adapter
def adapter(*args, **kwargs):
xmlrpc_kwargs = _resolve_func_signature(funcname, *args, 
**kwargs)

# we call the remote function with an unique dict argument
self.xmlrpc_server.call(funcname, xmlrpc_kwargs)
return adapter

As you see, all I need is _resolve_func_signature(), which is actually 
the routine (internal to the python runtime) which transforms complex 
function calls in a simple mapping of variables to be added to the 
function local namespace. Of course this routine would need information 
about the target functions' signature, but I have that info available 
(for example, via a set of functions that are a mockup of the real 
xmlrpc API).


Is that routine exposed to python, somewhere ? Does anybody know a 
working implementation here or there ?


Thanks for the help,
regards,
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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:33:41 +0100, Krister Svanlund wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Max Countryman m...@me.com wrote:
 I'm sure this has been brought up many times, but a quick Googling
 didn't yield the decisive results I was hoping for, so I apologize if
 this has already been addressed in great detail somewhere else.

 I am wondering what the rationale is behind preferring while True over
 while 1? For me, it seems that using True provides more clarity, but is
 that the only benefit? Is while 1 more prone to errors?
 
 It's just silly to use 1 since it will evaluate to True either way.


With the while True idiom in Python 2.x, you can easily exit out of an 
infinite loop without using break:

 while True:
... print Looping
... True = 0
...
Looping

 while True:  # Execute an infinite loop in 0 seconds.
... print Looping
...



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Tkinter polling example: file copy with progress bar

2010-12-12 Thread JohnWShipman
Attached below is a Tkinter script that demonstrates polling, that is,
performing a long-running process in parallel with the GUI.  The
script asks for an input file name and an output file name and copies
the input file to the output file.  The copy operation is done in a
child process managed with pexpect, and the GUI reports the progress
of the file copy using a Scale widget as a progress bar.

Cordially,
John W. Shipman, NM Tech Computer Center, Socorro, NM; j...@nmt.edu

#!/usr/bin/env python
#
# copyprogress:  File copy with a progress bar for Tkinter 8.4.
#   - Demonstrates Tkinter .after() and the pexpect module.
# Written by John W. Shipman (j...@nmt.edu), New Mexico Tech
# Computer Center, Socorro, NM 87801 USA.  This script is in
# the public domain.
#

# - - - - -   I m p o r t s

import sys, os, stat
import Tkinter as tk
import tkFileDialog, tkMessageBox
import pexpect

# - - - - -   M a n i f e s t   c o n s t a n t s

BUTTON_FONT = (Helvetica, 17)
LABEL_FONT = (Helvetica, 14)
ENTRY_FONT = (DejaVu Sans Mono, 12)
POLL_TIME = 50   # Polling frequency in milliseconds


# - - - - -   m a i n

def main():


app = App()
app.master.title(Copy with progress bar)
app.mainloop()

# - - - - -   c l a s s   A p p

class App(tk.Frame):
'''Copies a file with a progress bar.

  Widgets:
.fromFileVar:StringVar for source file name
.fromFileEntry:  Entry for source file name
.fromFileBrowse: Browse button for source file name
.fromFileLabel:  Label for above
.toFileVar:  StringVar for destination file name
.toFileEntry:Entry for destination file name
.toFileBrowse:   Browse button for destination file name
.toFileLabel:Label for above
.copyButton: Button to start copying
.progressVar:DoubleVar for progress scale
.progressScale:  Scale to show progress

  Grid plan:
 01 2
++-++
  0 | .fromFileEntry | .fromFileBrowse | .fromFileLabel |
++-++
  1 | .toFileEntry   | .toFileBrowse   | .toFileLabel   |
++-++
  2 | .progress  | .copyButton | .quitButton|
++-++

  Internal state:
.fromFileSize:   Source file size in bytes
.child:  pexpect child process to do the copy
'''

# - - -   A p p . _ _ i n i t _ _

def __init__(self, master=None):
tk.Frame.__init__(self, master)
self.grid()
self.__createWidgets()

# - - -   A p p . _ _ c r e a t e w i d g e t s

def __createWidgets(self):
'''Create all widgets and associated variables.
'''
self.fromFileVar = tk.StringVar()
self.fromFileEntry = tk.Entry ( self,
textvariable=self.fromFileVar,
font=ENTRY_FONT, width=50 )
rowx, colx = 0, 0
self.fromFileEntry.grid(row=rowx, column=colx, sticky=tk.E)

self.fromFileBrowse = tk.Button ( self,
command=self.__browseFrom,
font=BUTTON_FONT, text=Browse )
colx += 1
self.fromFileBrowse.grid(row=rowx, column=colx)

self.fromFileLabel = tk.Label ( self,
font=LABEL_FONT, text=Source file )
colx += 1
self.fromFileLabel.grid(row=rowx, column=colx, sticky=tk.W)

self.toFileVar = tk.StringVar()
self.toFileEntry = tk.Entry ( self,
textvariable=self.toFileVar,
font=ENTRY_FONT, width=50 )
rowx, colx = rowx+1, 0
self.toFileEntry.grid(row=rowx, column=colx, sticky=tk.E)

self.toFileBrowse = tk.Button ( self,
command=self.__browseTo,
font=BUTTON_FONT, text=Browse )
colx += 1
self.toFileBrowse.grid(row=rowx, column=colx)

self.toFileLabel = tk.Label ( self,
font=LABEL_FONT, text=Destination file)
colx += 1
self.toFileLabel.grid(row=rowx, column=colx, sticky=tk.W)

self.progressVar = tk.DoubleVar()
self.progressScale = tk.Scale ( self,
 length=400, orient=tk.HORIZONTAL,
 from_=0.0, to=100.0, resolution=0.1, tickinterval=20.0,
 variable=self.progressVar,
 label=Percent completion, font=LABEL_FONT )
rowx, colx = rowx+1, 0
self.progressScale.grid(row=rowx, column=colx, sticky=tk.E)

self.copyButton = tk.Button ( self,
command=self.__copyHandler,
font=BUTTON_FONT, text=Copy )
colx += 1
self.copyButton.grid(row=rowx, column=colx )

self.quitButton = tk.Button ( self, command=self.quit,
 

Re: Python on wikipedia

2010-12-12 Thread Terry Reedy

On 12/12/2010 4:38 PM, pakalk wrote:

On 12 Gru, 22:21, DevPlayerdevpla...@gmail.com  wrote:

Snapshot in time, hey look at that; someone used Python as THE example
of what a programming language is on 
Wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language


aand? what is the catch?


Wikipedia entries can be edited.

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Re: Directly calling python's function arguments dispatcher

2010-12-12 Thread Peter Otten
Pascal Chambon wrote:


 I've encountered several times, when dealing with adaptation of function
 signatures, the need for explicitly resolving complex argument sets into
 a simple variable mapping. Explanations.
 
 
 Consider that function:
 
 def foo(a1, a2, *args, **kwargs):
  pass
 
 calling foo(1, a2=2, a3=3)
 
 will map these arguments to local variables like these:
 {
 'a1': 1,
 'a2': 2,
 'args': tuple(),
 'kwarg's: {'a3': 3}
 }
 
 That's a quite complex resolution mechanism, which must handle
 positional and keyword arguments, and deal with both collision and
 missing argument cases.

 Is that routine exposed to python, somewhere ? Does anybody know a
 working implementation here or there ?

http://docs.python.org/library/inspect.html#inspect.getcallargs

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Re: Python on wikipedia

2010-12-12 Thread Bill Allen
Yeah, I noticed that a while back too.   Kinda cool.

--Bill

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 Snapshot in time, hey look at that; someone used Python as THE example
 of what a programming language is on Wikipedia.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language
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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
On 12/12/2010 2:32 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
 Am 12.12.2010 19:31, schrieb Steve Holden:
  Would you care to quantify how much CPU time that optimization will
  typically save for a loop of fair magnitude (say, a billion iterations)?
 The difference is minimal but measurable for very tight loops.
 
 $ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while 1: i+=1 if i ==
 100: break
 20 loops, best of 3: 89.7 msec per loop
 $ python -m timeit -n20 -- i = 0 while True: i+=1 if i ==
 100: break
 20 loops, best of 3: 117 msec per loop
 
 In Python 2.x the peep hole optimizer can't remove the global lookup and
 check for trueness for while True.
 
Yes, you said that already and I certainly didn't disagree.

[...]

 Python is designed to provide readable code. Writing
  
  while True:
  ...
  
  is much more legible than its pre-True couterpart
  
  while 1:
  ...
 No argue with that! I was merely making a point that while 1 executes
 different byte code than while True. Readability is important but
 sometimes speed is of the essence. while 1 is one of the few tricks to
 speed up tight loops a bit.

OK, but the figures you quote save you 27.3 ms per million iterations,
for a grand total saving of 27.3 ns per iteration. So a bit is hardly
worth considering for most programs, is it?

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Is there any way to SSH from Python ?!

2010-12-12 Thread Darshak Bavishi
Hi Experts,

I need to know that is there any way to SSH (From Windows Host) to Unix
machine ?!

If Yes than How ?

Because when i use telenet it not showing the no result !! As earlier it was
suggested that i should try with exit first and than read_all()
but still issue persist and getting hang

import getpass
import sys
import telnetlib
import time
HOST = *.*.*.*
#user = raw_input(Enter your remote account: )
#password = getpass.getpass()
user = Darshak2
password = 
tn = telnetlib.Telnet(HOST , 5400)
print 1
tn.read_until(login: , 5)
print 2
tn.write(user + \n)
print 3
if password:
tn.read_until(Password: )
tn.write(password + \n)

print 4
tn.write(set alarm = off + \n)
tn.write(set event = off + \n)
print 5
tn.write(Cd
/Office-Parameters/Mobility-Config-Parameters/Subscriber-Query-by-IMSI-MSISDN-or-IMEI
+ \n)
print 6
tn.write(\n)
tn.write(\n)
tn.write(vlrsubquery msisdn=*** + \n)
tn.write(\n)
tn.write(exit + \n)
print tn.read_all()
tn.close()

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Re: Is there any way to SSH from Python ?!

2010-12-12 Thread Chris Rebert
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Darshak Bavishi
bavishi.dars...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Experts,
 I need to know that is there any way to SSH (From Windows Host) to Unix
 machine ?!
 If Yes than How ?

http://www.lag.net/paramiko/

Did you try googling ssh python?

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Re: Is there any way to SSH from Python ?!

2010-12-12 Thread Darshak Bavishi
i am trying from last week but no luck !!

one thing only found that pexpect it not useful in windows

pls help out of this
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Darshak Bavishi
 bavishi.dars...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Experts,
  I need to know that is there any way to SSH (From Windows Host) to Unix
  machine ?!
  If Yes than How ?

 http://www.lag.net/paramiko/

 Did you try googling ssh python?

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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:20:40 -0500, Steve Holden wrote:

 On 12/12/2010 2:32 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
[...]
 No argue with that! I was merely making a point that while 1 executes
 different byte code than while True. Readability is important but
 sometimes speed is of the essence. while 1 is one of the few tricks
 to speed up tight loops a bit.
 
 OK, but the figures you quote save you 27.3 ms per million iterations,
 for a grand total saving of 27.3 ns per iteration. So a bit is hardly
 worth considering for most programs, is it?


I don't think anyone is saying that people should routinely use while 1 
for loops because they're faster than the alternatives. But it is a real, 
if small, optimization for a particular class of tight loops. Using the 
figures shown by Christian, it could be a 20-25% speed up on extremely 
tight loops.

You're right though, it's hardly worth the effort for large, expensive 
loops though -- but then on the other hand, while 1 is not so 
unreadable that it should be avoided.

I'm actually quite fond of the look of while 1:, and sometimes use it, 
not because it's faster, but just because I like it.



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Re: while True or while 1

2010-12-12 Thread Paul Rubin
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
 I'm actually quite fond of the look of while 1:, and sometimes use it, 
 not because it's faster, but just because I like it.

for v in itertools.repeat(True):
 ...

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[issue10683] PreLinkEvent error under VC2010

2010-12-12 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

The problem is different: there is a stray  in pythoncore\getbuildinfo.o. 
Kristjan, this is your change: can you take a look?

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[issue9922] subprocess.getstatusoutput can fail with utf8 UnicodeDecodeError

2010-12-12 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

Update 31 backport patch to reflect revert of unittest method names prior to 
3.1.3 release.

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[issue9922] subprocess.getstatusoutput can fail with utf8 UnicodeDecodeError

2010-12-12 Thread Ned Deily

Changes by Ned Deily n...@acm.org:


Removed file: http://bugs.python.org/file18972/issue9922-31.patch

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[issue7213] subprocess leaks open file descriptors between Popen instances causing hangs

2010-12-12 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

fd_status.py:

+try:
+_MAXFD = os.sysconf(SC_OPEN_MAX)
+except:
+_MAXFD = 256

It looks like this code (256 constant) comes from subprocess.py. Is that a good 
value? On Linux, SC_OPEN_MAX is usually 1024, and it can be 4096. Should we 
keep the default value 256, or use 1024 or 4096 instead? I don't know on which 
OS SC_OPEN_MAX is missing.

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fd_status.py: isopen(fd) uses fcntl.fcntl(fd, fcntl.F_GETFD, 0). Is it always 
available? If not, we can add fstat() as a fallback. The buildbots will tell us 
:-)

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subprocess.py: _create_pipe() doesn't use pipe2() because Python doesn't 
provide pipe2(). We should maybe add it to the posix module (open maybe a new 
issue for that).

 The CLOEXEC flag needs to be set atomically (or at least in a way
 that another subprocess won't start in the middle of it)

For the Python implementation, the GIL is not enough to ensure the atomicity of 
a process creation. That's why _posixsubprocess was created. I suppose that 
other parts of subprocess are not atomic and a lock is required to ensure that 
the creation of subprocess is atomic.

--

_posixsubprocess.c: is FD_CLOEXEC flag always available? fcntlmodule.c uses a 
#ifdef FD_CLOEXEC.

Can you add a comment to explain why you can release the GIL here? (because the 
operation is atomic)

+Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS
+res = pipe2(fds, O_CLOEXEC);
+Py_END_ALLOW_THREADS

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test_subprocess.py: test_pipe_cloexec() and test_pipe_cloexec_real_tools() 
should maybe be skipped if fcntl has no attribute FD_CLOEXEC.

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[issue10684] Shutil.move deletes file/folder in windows while renaming

2010-12-12 Thread harish

New submission from harish nsharish@gmail.com:

Shutil.move method deletes a file/folder when the file/folder is renamed to 
same name but different case.
eg.
shutil.move('folder','Folder')

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title: Shutil.move deletes file/folder in windows while renaming
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[issue9232] Allow trailing comma in any function argument list.

2010-12-12 Thread Nick Coghlan

Changes by Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:


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[issue9344] please add posix.getgrouplist()

2010-12-12 Thread Ross Lagerwall

Ross Lagerwall rosslagerw...@gmail.com added the comment:

Attached is a patch (against the latest revision, 87178) which adds the 
functionality to the posix module as well as adds a testcase for it.

I haven't added it to the os module, I'm not sure if that should be done.

I tested it on Linux  FreeBSD and it works as expected. Since I don't have an 
OS X system, I could not test it on there.

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[issue10261] tarfile iterator without members caching

2010-12-12 Thread Lars Gustäbel

Lars Gustäbel l...@gustaebel.de added the comment:

There is no trivial or backwards-compatible solution to this problem. The way 
it is now, there is no alternative to storing all TarInfo objects: there is no 
central table of contents in an archive we could use, so we must create our 
own. In other words, tarfile does not burn memory without a reason.

The problem you encounter is somehow a corner case, fortunately with a simple 
workaround:

for tarinfo in tar:
...
tar.members = []

There are two things that I will clearly refuse to do. One thing is to add yet 
another option to the TarFile class to switch off caching as this would make 
many TarFile methods dysfunctional without the user knowing why. The other 
thing is to add an extra non-caching Iterator class.

Sorry, that I have nothing more to offer. Maybe, someone else comes up with a 
brilliant idea.

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[issue10685] trace does nto ignore --ignore-module

2010-12-12 Thread Rusi

New submission from Rusi rustompm...@gmail.com:

When running trace, I get a a lot of lines like:
filename: /usr/lib/python2.7/cmd.py, modulename: cmd, funcname: Cmd

That is to say system modules are shown in the trace whereas I only want to see 
the code I am working on

Ive tried
python2.7 -m trace --listfuncs tt.py --ignore-dir '/usr/lib'  const-dir.trace

python2.7 -m trace --listfuncs --ignore-module cmd tt.py   const.trace

python2.7 -m trace --ignore-module --listfuncs  cmd tt.py   const.trace

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title: trace does nto ignore --ignore-module
type: behavior
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[issue7213] subprocess leaks open file descriptors between Popen instances causing hangs

2010-12-12 Thread Milko Krachounov

Milko Krachounov pyt...@milko.3mhz.net added the comment:

 For the Python implementation, the GIL is not enough to
 ensure the atomicity of a process creation. That's why 
 _posixsubprocess was created. I suppose that other parts 
 of subprocess are not atomic and a lock is required to
 ensure that the creation of subprocess is atomic.
Both _posixsubprocess.fork_process and _posixsubprocess.cloexec_pipe (without 
HAVE_PIPE2) hold the GIL. They can't be running at the same time, so in regards 
to each other, they will be atomic. Or at least that's the idea. You don't need 
a separate lock when the GIL is already held. Neither a lock nor the GIL make 
the operation to be atomic (e.g. if someone forks from multiprocessing, the 
effect might be different, though os.fork() also holds the GIL and I think 
multiprocessing uses it).

The idea of _posixsubprocess is that fork() isn't thread-safe, because Python 
might call malloc() or free() in the child, which might be currently locked by 
another thread, which might cause the child to hang. Nothing to do with 
atomicity.

 Can you add a comment to explain why you can release the 
 GIL here? (because the operation is atomic)

I release the GIL because I copy-pasted the code from os.pipe(). It makes sense 
that pipe() and pipe2() are called in the same way. In the other implementation 
it is held to (ab)use it to avoid the race, but there's no need to hold it here 
because pipe2() *is* atomic.

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[issue10188] tempfile.TemporaryDirectory may throw errors at shutdown

2010-12-12 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:

Tidy ups committed in r87182. Shutdown problems now result in a slightly more 
meaningful message on stderr, a ResourceWarning is triggered when an implicit 
teardown occurs and the chances of an AttributeError due to an exception in 
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[issue10682] With '*args' or even bare '*' in def/call argument list, trailing comma causes SyntaxError

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

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[issue10684] Shutil.move deletes file/folder in windows while renaming

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

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[issue10188] tempfile.TemporaryDirectory may throw errors at shutdown

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

The tests are failing on windows:

http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/builders/x86%20XP-4%203.x/builds/3770/steps/test/logs/stdio

==
ERROR: test_mkdtemp_failure (test.test_tempfile.test_TemporaryDirectory)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows\build\lib\test\test_tempfile.py,
 line 933, in test_mkdtemp_failure
tempfile.TemporaryDirectory(prefix=[]?*!:)
  File D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows\build\lib\tempfile.py, 
line 624, in __init__
self.name = mkdtemp(suffix, prefix, dir)
  File D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows\build\lib\tempfile.py, 
line 301, in mkdtemp
_os.mkdir(file, 0o700)
WindowsError: [Error 123] The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax 
is incorrect: 'c:\\docume~1\\db3l\\locals~1\\temp\\[]?*!:9ohp4a'

==
FAIL: test_warnings_on_cleanup (test.test_tempfile.test_TemporaryDirectory)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
D:\cygwin\home\db3l\buildarea\3.x.bolen-windows\build\lib\test\test_tempfile.py,
 line 1001, in test_warnings_on_cleanup
self.assertIn(d.name,  message)
AssertionError: 'c:\\docume~1\\db3l\\locals~1\\temp\\94ifn5\\ujobx5' not found 
in 'ERROR: TypeError(\'NoneType\' object is not callable,) while cleaning up 
TemporaryDirectory 
\'c:docume~1db3llocals~1temp94ifn5ujobx5\'\n'

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[issue10188] tempfile.TemporaryDirectory may throw errors at shutdown

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

There's also a typo in the issue number in your commit message (10888 instead 
of 10188).

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[issue10367] python setup.py sdist upload --show-response can fail with UnboundLocalError: local variable 'result' referenced before assignment

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

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[issue4391] use proper gettext plurals forms in argparse and optparse

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[issue1459867] Message.as_string should use mangle_from_=unixfrom?

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

On balance I think this would be a backward incompatible change that has 
insufficient benefit to be worth doing.  People who have working code will be 
depending on the existing defaults of the two methods, and changing this out 
from under them would be unkind.

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[issue10686] email.Generator should use unknown-8bit encoded words for headers with 8 bit data

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

New submission from R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com:

This is a followon to Issue 4661.  The fix for that issue introduced a way to 
parse messages containing 8bit bytes.  When Generator is called on a model 
containing 8 bit bytes, it converts it to 7bit clean.  There is, however, a bug 
in this conversion process: currently when encountering 8bit bytes in headers, 
it simply replaces then with ?.  According to the RFCs[*], what it should do 
instead is to replace them with encoded words using the 'charset' 
unknown-8bit.

[*] I'm specifically referring to RFC 1428...email is effectively acting as a 
translating gateway when requested to do the 8bit to 7bit conversion.  Although 
that RFC does not explicitly say that the unknown-8bit charset should be used 
in encoded words, it does imply it strongly in its section 3 prescription.

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[issue4661] email.parser: impossible to read messages encoded in a different encoding

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

I've opened a issue 10686 to address improving the RFC conformance by using 
unknown-8bit encoded words for 8bit bytes in headers.

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[issue4766] email documentation needs to be precise about strings/bytes

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

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The wording was clarified for 3.2 as part of the fix for issue 4661.  This does 
not help the 3.1 docs, so if someone wants to suggest a patch for the 3.1 docs 
we can reopen the issue.

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[issue10687] Python fails to install with empty ABI flags

2010-12-12 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

New submission from Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis 
arfrever@gmail.com:

$ make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image/ 
altinstall 
Creating directory /usr/bin
Creating directory /usr/lib64
/usr/bin/install -c python 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image//usr/bin/python3.2
if test -f 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image//usr/bin/python3.2 -o -h 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image//usr/bin/python3.2; \
then rm -f 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image//usr/bin/python3.2; \
else true; \
fi
(cd /var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-3.2_pre20101212/image//usr/bin; ln 
python3.2 python3.2)
ln: accessing `python3.2': No such file or directory
make: *** [altbininstall] Error 1

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[issue10631] ZipFile and current directory change

2010-12-12 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 So, Martin, are you then arguing that this should in fact be
 considered a bug in ZipFile?  The documentation for the constructor
 says Open a ZIP file, where file can be either a path to a file (a
 string) or a file-like object.  Reading that I would certainly
 expect it to accept a relative path, and for that path to be relative
 to the CWD at the time I called ZipFile, not at the time I called
 extractall.

You have a point here. So I now think that this should be changed.

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[issue10634] Windows timezone changes not reflected by time.localtime

2010-12-12 Thread Eric Pruitt

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[issue10682] With '*args' or even bare '*' in def/call argument list, trailing comma causes SyntaxError

2010-12-12 Thread Raymond Hettinger

Raymond Hettinger rhettin...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

The current behavior for function definitions is beneficial because a trailing 
comma in the argument list is likely to signal a real error (omitted variable).

In contrast, the trailing comma for lists is useful because entries on separate 
lines in a repeating pattern that makes it easy to add or remove entries.

The use cases for both function definitions and lists are best served by the 
current behavior, more so that a notion driven by foolish consistency.

Recommend rejecting and closing.

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[issue10682] With '*args' or even bare '*' in def/call argument list, trailing comma causes SyntaxError

2010-12-12 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

I'm with Raymond; this is unneeded consistency. I honestly would rather see 
what little support there is for a trailing comma to go away, but w/o looking 
at the grammar I am willing to bet that would be a pain to get right and not be 
worth the effort.

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[issue1243654] Faster output if message already has a boundary

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

Committed a simpler fix in r87196, backported to 3.1 in r87195, and 2.7 in 
r87196.

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[issue10682] With '*args' or even bare '*' in def/call argument list, trailing comma causes SyntaxError

2010-12-12 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

Ok, so closing as rejected.

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[issue9232] Allow trailing comma in any function argument list.

2010-12-12 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

In #10682, several committers indicated that they would prefer not to change 
this. So I'm closing this as rejected. Per convention, it would probably 
require a PEP to modify Python in this aspect (as there is no clear consensus).

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[issue9893] Usefulness of the Misc/Vim/ files?

2010-12-12 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

So I just looked at the syntax file linked by Antoine and that is definitely 
*not* what he meant to link to; probably meant 
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=790 . As for the indentation 
file, it's out-of-date and so doesn't support 'with' statements (looks like 
people have already started to fork it: 
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3003).

At this point I'm willing to either hand maintenance of the files over to 
someone else or to delete the files and shift what we point people at.

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[issue10688] pydoc removes lib directory

2010-12-12 Thread CZ

New submission from CZ hua...@qualcomm.com:

when pydoc is run with python -m (e.g., python -m pydoc map),
you will receive an error message: No module named tempfile.

The reason is pydoc removes 'C:\Python26\lib' (in my case) from sys.path.

But you can run it as python full path to pydoc.py because the lib 
directory appears twice in the sys.path in such situation.

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[issue10688] pydoc removes lib directory

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

This is a duplicate of issue 2029.

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[issue10683] PreLinkEvent error under VC2010

2010-12-12 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson

Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:

Yes, I have VC2010 so I'll see what happens...

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[issue9286] email.utils.parseaddr returns garbage for invalid input

2010-12-12 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

OK, I've studied this more, and it looks to me like the legacy address format 
allows multiple atoms separated by white space in the local part of the 
address.  This means that the correct parse would be

  ('', 'merwok w...@rusty.com')

How useful this parse is is a good question.  It is arguably better than losing 
the white space; however, the fact that it represents a behavior change and 
there's no actual user bug against this argues against backport.  I do think it 
is better to conform to the RFC as much as possible, though, so I'd like to fix 
this in 3.2.

Attached is a patch to the parser that preserves whitespace runs in between 
unquoted atoms in the local part.

It would be interesting to know what other email programs do with such 
addresses.

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[issue10689] _scproxy extension is NOT build

2010-12-12 Thread Pierre Vinet

New submission from Pierre Vinet v...@globetrotter.net:

From Python 2.7 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.1/Python-2.7.1.tar.bz2 
released on November 27th, 2010.

At compile time :

 $ ../Python-2.7.1/configure --enable-framework
 $ make

we obtain within standard output:

building '_scproxy' extension
creating build/Python-2.7.1
creating build/Python-2.7.1/Mac
creating build/Python-2.7.1/Mac/Modules
/sw/lib/gcc4.2/bin/gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -O2 -Wall 
-DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-I/Users/vinp/Documents/informatique/python/installation/version-2.7.1/Python-2.7.1/Mac/Include
 -I. -IInclude -I../Python-2.7.1/Include -I/sw/include -I/opt/macports/include 
-I/opt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include 
-I/Users/vinp/Documents/informatique/python/installation/version-2.7.1/Python-2.7.1/Include
 
-I/Users/vinp/Documents/informatique/python/installation/version-2.7.1/objet_fwk
 -c ../Python-2.7.1/Mac/Modules/_scproxy.c -o 
build/temp.macosx-10.3-ppc-2.7/../Python-2.7.1/Mac/Modules/_scproxy.o
../Python-2.7.1/Mac/Modules/_scproxy.c: In function ‘get_proxy_settings’:
../Python-2.7.1/Mac/Modules/_scproxy.c:67: error: lvalue required as unary ‘’ 
operand

Then the module _scproxy is not build, which yield to 35 tests crashes:
test_SimpleHTTPServer test___all__ test_cgi test_codecmaps_cn
test_codecmaps_hk test_codecmaps_jp test_codecmaps_kr
test_codecmaps_tw test_cookielib test_distutils test_email
test_email_codecs test_email_renamed test_httpservers test_mailbox
test_mimetypes test_normalization test_old_mailbox test_pyclbr
test_robotparser test_sax test_site test_smtplib test_smtpnet
test_ssl test_sundry test_urllib test_urllib2
test_urllib2_localnet test_urllib2net test_urllibnet test_wsgiref
test_xml_etree test_xml_etree_c test_xmlrpc

$ uname -a
Darwin ts-77.rmkipqxaas02.globetrotter.net 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: 
Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh 
powerpc

Compiler gcc (GCC) is 4.2.4 (2007)

Thanks,

Pierre Vinet

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[issue9234] argparse: aliases for positional arguments (subparsers)

2010-12-12 Thread Adrian Sampson

Adrian Sampson asamp...@cs.washington.edu added the comment:

Thanks for the pointer, Éric. Here's a quick patch that integrates the same 
functionality into the existing subparser class.

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[issue10690] IDLE Crash when running/saving Module

2010-12-12 Thread David

New submission from David mapstonsis...@yahoo.com:

Hello, 

Python version 2.7.1 x64
Mac OS X 10.6.5 x86_64
Tk/Tcl version 8.5/4

Python will crash when saving/running/checking a module, i tried googling for a 
few hours to come up to NOTHING for a solution. Hopefully we can both get this 
fixed. Thank you.

Attached is a Python crash log.

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type: crash
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[issue10188] tempfile.TemporaryDirectory may throw errors at shutdown

2010-12-12 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:

Sorry, I realised after I had logged off and gone to bed that I hadn't finished 
the last test. Fixed in r87204 with an approach that should exercise the 
relevant behaviour regardless of platform.

The commit message has also been updated to refer to the correct issue.

I'm actually going to close this now - the problem of misbehaviour due to 
modules being nulled out at shutdown is a more universal problem being tracked 
elsewhere, and I think the behaviour I just added is the best we can hope for 
until that is fixed.

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[issue10683] PreLinkEvent error under VC2010

2010-12-12 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson

Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:

Ok the problem is this line in the pre-link step, that must have gotten changed 
during the conversion:
$(SolutionDir)make_buildinfo.exe Debug $(IntDir)
should be
$(SolutionDir)make_buildinfo.exe Debug $(IntDir)\
This is because ($IntDir) will expand to a path ending in a backslash, thus 
escaping the quotes.  We have to escape the backslash using this notation.
The backslash gets removed during the automatic update of the project files.
Is there an official VS2010 build project?  If there is one, I can fix this 
there.

There is an alternative.  We can catch this particular error by skiping a 
trailing  in the path name.  This is perhaps good too, since others are bound 
to run into this problem.

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[issue10683] PreLinkEvent error under VC2010

2010-12-12 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson

Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:

Implemented the trailing quote removal defensive programming strategy in 
revision 87205.
Others that autoconvert the solution will not be hit by this problem.

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[issue7213] subprocess leaks open file descriptors between Popen instances causing hangs

2010-12-12 Thread Gregory P. Smith

Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org added the comment:

The close_fds default has been fixed in r87206 to remove the DeprecationWarning 
and remain False on Windows.  It changes to True on POSIX.

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