Re: Enum + new in 3.11
On 6/16/2023 7:37 PM, dn via Python-list wrote: On 16/06/2023 23.47, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 6/16/2023 1:40 AM, dn via Python-list wrote: Have you figured-out a use for the @enum.member and @enum.nonmember decorators (new in Python 3.11)? mypy is having trouble with 3.11 enums: "There are 83 open Enum mypy issues at the the time of this writing. Getting the Enum datatype to work with mypy is becoming impossible as I find myself having to use cast() in at least every other line." (see https://gi thub.com/python/mypy/issues/12841) There have also been other changes to enum in 3.11 - here is a useful rundown: https://www.andy-pearce.com/blog/posts/2023/Jan/whats-new-in-python-311-new-and-improved-modules/#enum I had no idea Sorry to hear about mypy. PyCharm has its own mechanism - if there's something like mypy underneath, I don't know [which]. TBH I haven't noticed any such difficulties, BUT haven't tried using more than a defined sub-class of Enum - and using such as a class. Thus: class MenuOptions( Enum ): """ Legal menu-choices. """ N = "NewGame" L = "LoadGame" if __name__ == "__main__": n:MenuOptions = MenuOptions.N print( n, type( n ) ) # MenuOptions.N works correctly, but strikes me as pedantry. (any (mypy) problematic code you'd like me to try (in PyCharm) as a comparison? Perhaps off-list - could summarise any pertinent discoveries later...) I tried messing with the enum-members, eg N:str; but realised that although this worked/was passed silently, the name of a member is not actually a string anyway. So, backed that out. Had noted the first web.ref but deemed it unimportant (to me - as above). The second I had not found, and enjoyed reading (many thanks!). «I’ll be honest, I struggled to think of concrete cases where this would be useful, since I don’t tend to pile additional functionality into my enumerations — they’re almost always just bare classes which are members of another class or module which provides the related functionality. But I think it’s good to broaden your horizons...» The last being the same view as led me to this point, and the first, the motivation for this post! As said, I tend to only use enums in a fairly mechanistic fashion. However, I have been playing-around with his "additional functionality". For example, adding the idea of a default-value if an enquiry attempts to use a 'key' which is not present (which seems 'natural', but equally goes against (my understanding of) the ethos of an enum). Next, (see earlier comment about having to invoke the @member-target as a function) was the idea that if one is using an enum as a collection of the correct choices/responses in a menu (per code snippet), making the member.value into a function* attempts to reproduce the idiom of using a dict[ionary] to simulate a case/select construct - which combines the idea of an API's constants with making a decision as to which functionality should be invoked. * function here (cf "method") because unlikely to locate such functionality within the enum. However, am also experimenting with classes (cue OOP-mumblings, eg "polymorphism", "inversion", ...) All the fun of the fair! BTW when I reach the point of making comparisons, I expect the enum will be 'cheaper' in storage; but that the dict-construct will be 'faster' - pure speculation(!) Repeating: curious cats, etc... From reading the references, especially the second one, it seems to me that these new features are mostly intended to handle weird cases involving subclasses of enums. I plan to master these features by avoiding them - and hope I never need to understand someone else's code that uses them. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Enum + new in 3.11
On 16/06/2023 23.47, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 6/16/2023 1:40 AM, dn via Python-list wrote: Have you figured-out a use for the @enum.member and @enum.nonmember decorators (new in Python 3.11)? mypy is having trouble with 3.11 enums: "There are 83 open Enum mypy issues at the the time of this writing. Getting the Enum datatype to work with mypy is becoming impossible as I find myself having to use cast() in at least every other line." (see https://gi thub.com/python/mypy/issues/12841) There have also been other changes to enum in 3.11 - here is a useful rundown: https://www.andy-pearce.com/blog/posts/2023/Jan/whats-new-in-python-311-new-and-improved-modules/#enum I had no idea Sorry to hear about mypy. PyCharm has its own mechanism - if there's something like mypy underneath, I don't know [which]. TBH I haven't noticed any such difficulties, BUT haven't tried using more than a defined sub-class of Enum - and using such as a class. Thus: class MenuOptions( Enum ): """ Legal menu-choices. """ N = "NewGame" L = "LoadGame" if __name__ == "__main__": n:MenuOptions = MenuOptions.N print( n, type( n ) ) # MenuOptions.N works correctly, but strikes me as pedantry. (any (mypy) problematic code you'd like me to try (in PyCharm) as a comparison? Perhaps off-list - could summarise any pertinent discoveries later...) I tried messing with the enum-members, eg N:str; but realised that although this worked/was passed silently, the name of a member is not actually a string anyway. So, backed that out. Had noted the first web.ref but deemed it unimportant (to me - as above). The second I had not found, and enjoyed reading (many thanks!). «I’ll be honest, I struggled to think of concrete cases where this would be useful, since I don’t tend to pile additional functionality into my enumerations — they’re almost always just bare classes which are members of another class or module which provides the related functionality. But I think it’s good to broaden your horizons...» The last being the same view as led me to this point, and the first, the motivation for this post! As said, I tend to only use enums in a fairly mechanistic fashion. However, I have been playing-around with his "additional functionality". For example, adding the idea of a default-value if an enquiry attempts to use a 'key' which is not present (which seems 'natural', but equally goes against (my understanding of) the ethos of an enum). Next, (see earlier comment about having to invoke the @member-target as a function) was the idea that if one is using an enum as a collection of the correct choices/responses in a menu (per code snippet), making the member.value into a function* attempts to reproduce the idiom of using a dict[ionary] to simulate a case/select construct - which combines the idea of an API's constants with making a decision as to which functionality should be invoked. * function here (cf "method") because unlikely to locate such functionality within the enum. However, am also experimenting with classes (cue OOP-mumblings, eg "polymorphism", "inversion", ...) All the fun of the fair! BTW when I reach the point of making comparisons, I expect the enum will be 'cheaper' in storage; but that the dict-construct will be 'faster' - pure speculation(!) Repeating: curious cats, etc... -- Regards, =dn -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Fwd: AUTO EDITOR DIDN'T WORK
Thanks, I'll look into it. On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 10:25, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 15/06/2023 08:58, Real Live FootBall Tv via Python-list wrote: > > I have followed the instructions given on how to install the app. What I > > needed was an application to cut of silence from my video and I saw auto > > editor demonstrated as one of the applications that could do that. It > does > > cut the silent areas of an MP4 format video for instance but would save > it > > as a XML file which in turn would be exported to the video editor that > > supports the output from the auto editor app. The one who demonstrated it > > in a video used Davinci Resolve to import the XML file, I followed same > > process but I couldn't get same result. > > It looks like you have three parts to this puzzle: > - auto-editor > - resolve > - Python > > It's not clear which part isn't working but you can at > least test Python is working after you install it > by running the interpreter in a console/terminal > window by typing python at the command prompt. > > If you get the Python prompt: > > >>> > > Then Python is installed OK. > > After that it's back into auto-editor and resolve and this is > not the best place to get answers for those. Resolve at least > has an active support forum, so I'd start there(assuming > python works!) > > -- > Alan G > Author of the Learn to Program web site > http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ > http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld > Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos > > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Enum + new in 3.11
On 6/16/2023 1:40 AM, dn via Python-list wrote:
Have you figured-out a use for the @enum.member and @enum.nonmember
decorators (new in Python 3.11)?
"What's New" says:
Added the member() and nonmember() decorators, to ensure the decorated
object is/is not converted to an enum member.
The PSL docs say:
@enum.member
A decorator for use in enums: its target will become a member.
also:
enum members have names and values (the name of Color.RED is RED, the
value of Color.BLUE is 3, etc.)
Whereas the "Utilities and Decorators" section is slightly confusing
because class decorators are mixed with others, so one has to read
more-carefully.
"Curiosity killed the cat" and other cautionary tales/tails...
Have added the following decorated staticmethod to a basic enum. It is
indeed recognised as a member of the enum, but its value is the
method-object. To gain the value the method-object represents
(property-like behavior) one has to call the method/enum-value as a
function:-
from enum import Enum, member
class MenuOptions( Enum ):
""" Legal menu-choices. """
N = "NewGame"
L = "LoadGame"
# ...
@member
@staticmethod
def extra_member()->str:
return "QuitGame"
def print_demo( enum_chosen:MenuOptions )->None:
""" Illustrative printing. """
print( "Name:", enum_chosen, enum_chosen.name )
if isinstance( enum_chosen, MenuOptions ):
print( "Value:", enum_chosen.value )
print( MenuOptions.__members__ )
# {'N': , 'L': ,
'extra_member': MenuOptions.extra_member at 0x7f0802128860>)>>}
print_demo( MenuOptions[ "L" ] )
# Name: MenuOptions.L L
# Value: LoadGame
print_demo( MenuOptions.extra_member )
# Name: MenuOptions.extra_member extra_member
# Value: 0x7f0802128860>)>
print( MenuOptions.extra_member.value() )
# QuitGame
Therefore, like an @property decorator applied to a method in a
custom-class, it could be used to only evaluate some 'expensive'
computation if/when it is needed. Similarly, it could use the other
values within the enum in order to present some 'combination'.
Weirdly (given that enums are considered immutable) I imagine that if
the 'extra_member' were to call some external function with varying
output, the value could be considered mutable when it is eventually called.
Other?better ideas...
mypy is having trouble with 3.11 enums:
"There are 83 open Enum mypy issues at the the time of this writing.
Getting the Enum datatype to work with mypy is becoming impossible as I
find myself having to use cast() in at least every other line."
(see https://github.com/python/mypy/issues/12841)
There have also been other changes to enum in 3.11 - here is a useful
rundown:
https://www.andy-pearce.com/blog/posts/2023/Jan/whats-new-in-python-311-new-and-improved-modules/#enum
I had no idea
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