RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
So, how do I use the width value in my code?

SGA

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On 2024-02-25 02:51, Steve GS wrote:
> import tkinter as tk
>
> #global Ww  Neither global helps
> def on_configure(*args):
> # print(args)
>   #global Ww  Neither global helps
>   Ww = root.winfo_width()
>   print("WwInside = <" + str(Ww) + ">")
>
> root = tk.Tk()
> root.bind('', on_configure) print("WwOutside = <" + str(Ww) 
> + ">")
> #NameError: name 'Ww' is not defined
> root.mainloop()
'Ww' won't exist until 'on_configure' assigns to it, and that won't happen 
until `mainloop` starts.

Also, 'global' works only within a function.

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import tkinter as tk

def on_configure(event):
 print(f'{event.width=}, {event.height=}')

root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('',on_configure)
root.mainloop()

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RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
The print statement in the
function prints. 
Does that not mean that the
function is being called?



SGA

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a window and button placement

On 2/24/2024 9:51 PM, Steve GS
via Python-list wrote:
First of all, please make sure
that the formatting is
readable and especially the
indentation.  This is Python,
after all.

Do not use tabs; use 3 or 4
spaces instead of each tab.
> import tkinter as tk
> 
> #global Ww  Neither global
> helps
> def on_configure(*args):
> # print(args)
>   #global Ww  Neither
> global helps
>   Ww =
root.winfo_width()
>   print("WwInside = <" +
> str(Ww) + ">")
> 
> root = tk.Tk()
> root.bind('',
> on_configure)
> print("WwOutside = <" +
> str(Ww) + ">")
> #NameError: name 'Ww' is not
> defined

The function that declares Ww
hasn't run yet. As I wrote
earlier, the function bound to
the callback should do all the
work for the callback, or it
should call other functions
that do.  That's if you don't
let a layout do it all for
you, as others have written.

> root.mainloop()
> 
> SGA
> 
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>
 sga.ni...@python.org> On
> Behalf Of MRAB via
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> Sent: Saturday, February 24,
> 2024 7:49 PM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Problem
resizing
> a window and button
placement
> 
> On 2024-02-25 00:33, Steve
GS
> via Python-list wrote:
>> "Well, yes, in Python a
>> variable created inside a
>> function or method is local
> to
>> that function unless you
>> declare it global."
>>
>> Yes, I knew that. I tried
to
>> global it both before the
>> function call and within
it.
>> Same for when I created the
>> variable. If I try to use
it
>> in the rest of the code, it
>> keeps coming up as not
>> declared.  In other
> functions,
>> I can 'return' the variable
>> but that apparently would
> not
>> work for this function.
>>
>> Is this type of function
any
>> different that that which I
>> have been using?
>>
> Please post a short example
> that shows the problem.
> 

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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread MRAB via Python-list

On 2024-02-25 02:51, Steve GS wrote:

import tkinter as tk

#global Ww  Neither global helps
def on_configure(*args):
# print(args)
  #global Ww  Neither global helps
  Ww = root.winfo_width()
  print("WwInside = <" + str(Ww) + ">")

root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('', on_configure)
print("WwOutside = <" + str(Ww) + ">")
#NameError: name 'Ww' is not defined
root.mainloop()
'Ww' won't exist until 'on_configure' assigns to it, and that won't 
happen until `mainloop` starts.


Also, 'global' works only within a function.

8<

import tkinter as tk

def on_configure(event):
    print(f'{event.width=}, {event.height=}')

root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('',on_configure)
root.mainloop()

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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list

On 2/24/2024 9:51 PM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
First of all, please make sure that the formatting is readable and 
especially the indentation.  This is Python, after all.


Do not use tabs; use 3 or 4 spaces instead of each tab.

import tkinter as tk

#global Ww  Neither global
helps
def on_configure(*args):
# print(args)
  #global Ww  Neither
global helps
  Ww = root.winfo_width()
  print("WwInside = <" +
str(Ww) + ">")

root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('',
on_configure)
print("WwOutside = <" +
str(Ww) + ">")
#NameError: name 'Ww' is not
defined


The function that declares Ww hasn't run yet. As I wrote earlier, the 
function bound to the callback should do all the work for the callback, 
or it should call other functions that do.  That's if you don't let a 
layout do it all for you, as others have written.



root.mainloop()

SGA

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2024 7:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a window and button placement

On 2024-02-25 00:33, Steve GS
via Python-list wrote:

"Well, yes, in Python a
variable created inside a
function or method is local

to

that function unless you
declare it global."

Yes, I knew that. I tried to
global it both before the
function call and within it.
Same for when I created the
variable. If I try to use it
in the rest of the code, it
keeps coming up as not
declared.  In other

functions,

I can 'return' the variable
but that apparently would

not

work for this function.

Is this type of function any
different that that which I
have been using?


Please post a short example
that shows the problem.



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RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
import tkinter as tk

#global Ww  Neither global
helps
def on_configure(*args):
# print(args)
 #global Ww  Neither
global helps
 Ww = root.winfo_width()
 print("WwInside = <" +
str(Ww) + ">")

root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('',
on_configure)
print("WwOutside = <" +
str(Ww) + ">")
#NameError: name 'Ww' is not
defined
root.mainloop()

SGA

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a window and button placement

On 2024-02-25 00:33, Steve GS
via Python-list wrote:
> "Well, yes, in Python a
> variable created inside a
> function or method is local
to
> that function unless you
> declare it global."
> 
> Yes, I knew that. I tried to
> global it both before the
> function call and within it.
> Same for when I created the
> variable. If I try to use it
> in the rest of the code, it
> keeps coming up as not
> declared.  In other
functions,
> I can 'return' the variable
> but that apparently would
not
> work for this function.
> 
> Is this type of function any
> different that that which I
> have been using?
> 
Please post a short example
that shows the problem.

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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread MRAB via Python-list

On 2024-02-25 00:33, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:

"Well, yes, in Python a
variable created inside a
function or method is local to
that function unless you
declare it global."

Yes, I knew that. I tried to
global it both before the
function call and within it.
Same for when I created the
variable. If I try to use it
in the rest of the code, it
keeps coming up as not
declared.  In other functions,
I can 'return' the variable
but that apparently would not
work for this function.

Is this type of function any
different that that which I
have been using?


Please post a short example that shows the problem.

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RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
"Well, yes, in Python a
variable created inside a
function or method is local to
that function unless you
declare it global."

Yes, I knew that. I tried to
global it both before the
function call and within it.
Same for when I created the
variable. If I try to use it
in the rest of the code, it
keeps coming up as not
declared.  In other functions,
I can 'return' the variable
but that apparently would not
work for this function.

Is this type of function any
different that that which I
have been using?

SGA

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Sent: Saturday, February 24,
2024 8:40 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a window and button placement

On 2/24/2024 3:20 AM, Steve GS
via Python-list wrote:
> Yes, I ran that elegantly
> simple code. The print
> statement reports the X, Y,
> Height and Width values.
> However, I do not see how to
> capture the width value.
> 
>   I experimented with the
code
> Vwidth = rootV.winfo_width()
> and it also reports the
width
> as I resize the window.
> 
> However, I cannot seem to
use
> the variable Vwidth outside
> the sub routine. It is
acting
> as if Vwidth is not global
but
> I added that.  It is
reported
> that Vwidth is not defined
> when I try to use it in my
> code.

Well, yes, in Python a
variable created inside a
function or method is local to
that function unless you
declare it global. That
characteristic is called its
"scope". But if you think you
need it to be a global
variable you should rethink
your design. For one thing,
before the next time you use
your global variable the
window size may have changed
again.

Instead, it would be better to
have the function that
responds to the resize event
perform the action that you
want, or call another function
that does, passing the new
width to it.

Note that in most programming
languages, variables have a
scope.  The rules about those
scopes vary between languages.

> 
> So close..
> SGA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Barry
> 
> Sent: Saturday, February 24,
> 2024 3:04 AM
> To: Steve GS
> 
> Cc: MRAB
>
;
> python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Problem
resizing
> a window and button
placement
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Feb 2024, at 04:36,
> Steve GS via Python-list
> 
> wrote:
>>
>> How do I extract the values
>> from args?
> 
> You can look up the args in
> documentation.
> You can run the example code
> MRAB provided and see what
is
> printed to learn what is in
> the args.
> 
> Barry
> 
> 

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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-02-24, MRAB via Python-list  wrote:
> On 2024-02-24 01:14, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Python, Tkinter: How do I determine if a window has been resized? I
>> want to locate buttons vertically along the right border and need
>> to know the new width. The buttons are to move with the change of
>> location of the right-side border.
>
> Bind an event handler for '':
>
> 8<
> [...]
> 8<
>
> Are you placing the buttons yourself? I always use layouts and they 
> handle such things automatically.

Yes, definitely what he said: use a layout manager.

I hope this doesn't sound rude, but if you're calculating button
positions based on window size, you're doing it wrong and will end up
wasting a lot of time to produce something that won't work right.

Use a layout manager:

  
https://tkinterpython.top/layout/#:~:text=Tkinter%20has%20three%20built%2Din,%2C%20grid%20%2C%20and%20place%20managers.

  
https://www.pythonguis.com/tutorials/create-ui-with-tkinter-pack-layout-manager/

  https://www.pythonguis.com/tutorials/use-tkinter-to-design-gui-layout/

You'll have to spend a little time learning how they work, but in the
end you'll get done sooner and have better results.

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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list

On 2/24/2024 3:20 AM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:

Yes, I ran that elegantly
simple code. The print
statement reports the X, Y,
Height and Width values.
However, I do not see how to
capture the width value.

  I experimented with the code
Vwidth = rootV.winfo_width()
and it also reports the width
as I resize the window.

However, I cannot seem to use
the variable Vwidth outside
the sub routine. It is acting
as if Vwidth is not global but
I added that.  It is reported
that Vwidth is not defined
when I try to use it in my
code.


Well, yes, in Python a variable created inside a function or method is 
local to that function unless you declare it global. That characteristic 
is called its "scope". But if you think you need it to be a global 
variable you should rethink your design. For one thing, before the next 
time you use your global variable the window size may have changed again.


Instead, it would be better to have the function that responds to the 
resize event perform the action that you want, or call another function 
that does, passing the new width to it.


Note that in most programming languages, variables have a scope.  The 
rules about those scopes vary between languages.




So close..
SGA

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2024 3:04 AM
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a window and button placement




On 24 Feb 2024, at 04:36,

Steve GS via Python-list

wrote:


How do I extract the values
from args?


You can look up the args in
documentation.
You can run the example code
MRAB provided and see what is
printed to learn what is in
the args.

Barry




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RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Steve GS via Python-list
Yes, I ran that elegantly
simple code. The print
statement reports the X, Y,
Height and Width values.
However, I do not see how to
capture the width value.  

 I experimented with the code
Vwidth = rootV.winfo_width()
and it also reports the width
as I resize the window.

However, I cannot seem to use
the variable Vwidth outside
the sub routine. It is acting
as if Vwidth is not global but
I added that.  It is reported
that Vwidth is not defined
when I try to use it in my
code.

So close..
SGA

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Sent: Saturday, February 24,
2024 3:04 AM
To: Steve GS

Cc: MRAB
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a window and button placement



> On 24 Feb 2024, at 04:36,
Steve GS via Python-list

wrote:
> 
> How do I extract the values
> from args?

You can look up the args in
documentation.
You can run the example code
MRAB provided and see what is
printed to learn what is in
the args.

Barry


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Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement

2024-02-24 Thread Barry via Python-list



> On 24 Feb 2024, at 04:36, Steve GS via Python-list  
> wrote:
> 
> How do I extract the values
> from args?

You can look up the args in documentation.
You can run the example code MRAB provided and see what is printed to learn 
what is in the args.

Barry


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