Re: Program Translation - Nov. 14, 2013
BB == Ben Bacarisse ben.use...@bsb.me.uk writes: BB There is a slight air in unreality to all this, This is a far more polite way of putting it than I would. It's an earthquake predictor based on pseudoscience and technobabble. BB Finally, why are you timing Perl arithmetic? A translation into BB Perl does not seem to be an option. EDG has been trying ineffectually to get this suite of programs to work, integrating them with gnuplot and a Perl web application, for as long as I can remember. I suspect years ago someone told him that Perl was the One True Language for web applications and the evidence of the intervening decade has not been enough to convince him otherwise. Followups set to comp.lang.perl.misc; c.l.python and c.l.fortran have enough crazy overlap from c.l.p.m without adding me to the mix. Charlton -- Charlton Wilbur cwil...@chromatico.net -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python doc problem example: gzip module (reprise)
RW == Rick Wotnaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RW Someone is sure to jump in now and point to sample code, which RW nearly all reasonably major packages include. That's good RW stuff. With (for example) wxPython, it's the only useful RW documentation, or rather, it's the only thing that makes the RW wxWidgets documentation useful. Links to code samples in the RW documentation would be fine in lieu of snippets of example RW calls. But there's not enough of either in most documentation. This is one of the places where Apple's Cocoa documentation shines: there are frequently snippets of code accompanying more complicated methods, which is nice, but there are a couple dozen small sample programs that demonstrate how to use particular aspects of the framework, available with full source code. RW I would love to see examples for essentially every function RW and method. And not just something that echoes the signature, RW but some context to show how it might be useful. That would be RW in the intoxication class of ultimate hopes. In most cases, RW though, it would be *extremely* helpful for a casual user of RW that part of the package. Well, at some level you have to consider - who is the target audience of the documentation? There's usually a tradeoff involved in that documentation aimed at novice users is usually not useful to advanced users; there's also a ridiculous amount of work involved in making *all* documentation available to all users, and there's usually a better payoff involved in writing documentation that shows novice users how to be intermediate users. To take another example: in Cocoa, there's a well-defined and well-documented approach to memory management, and conventions used consistently throughout the whole Cocoa framework. These conventions could be documented over again for each and every class, but it's a much better use of resources to document them once and to assume in the documentation for each class that the reader is familiar with the conventions. Charlton -- cwilbur at chromatico dot net cwilbur at mac dot com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to write a tutorial
XL == Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: XL I've used the Python tutorial's chapter on class as XL an example. I've indicated that proper tutorial should be XL simple, covering just common cases, be self-contained, and be XL example based. Correct is not in your list of criteria. Big surprise, that. Followups set appropriately. Charlton -- cwilbur at chromatico dot net cwilbur at mac dot com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: unicode support
xah == xah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: xah python supports unicode in source xah code by putting a coding declaration as the first line. [...] xah In perl, support of unicode is very flaky. The language does xah not support it, [...] All: Xah Lee is trolling. (Whether he's *only* a troll, or a reasonable person who occasionally trolls to amuse himself, is a matter of perspective.) Please note the inaccuracy of his comment on Perl and the two newsgroups to which this message was posted before replying; this is a clear case of lets you and him fight. Charlton -- cwilbur at chromatico dot net cwilbur at mac dot com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: a new Perl/Python a day
XL == Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: XL i'll cross post to comp.lang.perl.misc and comp.lang.python. XL If you spot mistakes, feel free to correct or discourse here. Error #1: crossposting to those two groups. (Error #2 is implying that you're a Perl expert, but someone else already pointed that out.) Charlton -- cwilbur at chromatico dot net cwilbur at mac dot com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
