[issue42480] Python Tkinter crashes on macOS 11.1 beta

2020-11-28 Thread Christopher Snowhill


Christopher Snowhill  added the comment:

That command also crashes with the same error. And I already verified with 
otool -L on the tkinter shared object file that it does indeed link the 
/System/Library/Frameworks version of both Tcl and Tk.

In fact, if I remember correctly, Homebrew's entire stance is to import and 
build as little as possible, always preferring to link to system bundled 
frameworks, no matter what. Maybe they'll rethink this one.

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[issue42480] Python Tkinter crashes on macOS 11.1 beta

2020-11-28 Thread Christopher Snowhill


Christopher Snowhill  added the comment:

Sorry about that. I didn't know that Big Sur support wasn't added until 
post-3.9.0. I'll check if Brew has a newer version now, and even if not, if I 
can install a Git version for testing.

Incidentally, the error is occuring inside either the Tk or Tcl frameworks, and 
it's not a version that Brew supplies. Like the system copies of Python 2 and 
3, Brew links its builds against the system Tcl and Tk frameworks, which appear 
to have some bugs in the beta.

Thanks for testing, though.

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[issue42480] Python Tkinter crashes on macOS 11.1 beta

2020-11-28 Thread Christopher Snowhill


Christopher Snowhill  added the comment:

And I can't report it to Homebrew, either, since they refuse to acknowledge bug 
reports against beta versions of the OS. I guess I can bug them when 11.1 
becomes a stable release, by which time I'll probably be on 11.2.

I'll file Feedback with Apple, too, as they're more likely to actually know 
what's going on.

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[issue42480] Python Tkinter crashes on macOS 11.1 beta

2020-11-27 Thread Christopher Snowhill


New submission from Christopher Snowhill :

The Tkinter module, in a freshly built copy of Python 3.9 built by Brew, using 
the latest Xcode 12.3 command line tools, crashes on Big Sur 11.1 beta. It 
emits the following error:

macOS 11 or later required !

I believe I recently read on macOS developer documentation, there is a special 
behavior in the system version reporting now, possibly only taking effect in 
11.1 and newer. Basically, if you query the major version first, you'll get 11 
or higher. If you query the minor version first, it will switch on 
compatibility mode and start reporting either 10.15 or 10.16, I'm not terribly 
sure which, but it does lie and say it's running version 10.

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components: Tkinter
messages: 381933
nosy: kode54
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Python Tkinter crashes on macOS 11.1 beta
type: crash
versions: Python 3.9

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