Re: Any experience with Python for GraalVM ?

2020-11-05 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu czw, 05.11.2020 o godzinie 11∶02 -0500, użytkownik Dennis Lee
Bieber napisał:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2020 11:10:03 +0100, Marek Mosiewicz
>  declaimed the following:
> 
> > Does somebody have any experience with GraalVM [1]
> > It is new VM from Oracle which is said to have
> > ability to run Python 3
> > 
> Based upon https://www.graalvm.org/reference-
> manual/python/ that
> capability is rather minimum...
I just downloaded GraalVM and Werkzeug is being installed
successfully.

Maybe it is worth to try.
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Any experience with Python for GraalVM ?

2020-11-05 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Hello,

Does somebody have any experience with GraalVM [1]
It is new VM from Oracle which is said to have
ability to run Python 3

I have idea to try to run Odoo [2] on it [3]. Odoo is
ERP system written in Python. 

Odoo is big piece of software with many dependencies,
but from my understanding of it most important to
have something working on Graal would by werkzung
and have some working implementation of psycopg2
(Postgresql API)

Any ideas ?

[1] http://www.graal.org
[2] http://odoo.com
[2] https://github.com/marekmosiewicz/goblet


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Re: Calculator

2020-02-01 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Considering just basic calculator with eval it could be possible search
eval string if it only contains digits, parenthensis and operators.
Assuring no letter (maybe except e for expotential) and special
characters this calculator should be quite safe.

But I give no any warranty for such security.

Cheers,
   Marek Mosiewicz

W dniu śro, 15.01.2020 o godzinie 18∶09 +0100, użytkownik Python
napisał:
> Le 15/01/2020 à 16:34, andersh...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > Thanks!
> 
> Do not try it, though, with a expression such as
> import os; os.system('rm -rf ~/*').
> 
> 
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Blasphemy

2019-10-24 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
What about, if Python would have optional end keyword. In fact most of
blocks have starting : sign. What if you would have also keyword to
optionaly mark end of block.

That would be big win for IDEs to format code and ensure that there is
no problems with intendation. There could be some keyword to mark
script as strictly marking blocks and then it would have this kind of
validation.

Cheers,
Marek Mosiewicz


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Re: More CPUs doen't equal more speed

2019-05-28 Thread Marek Mosiewicz

Do you do it as separate process or thread.

There is https://wiki.python.org/moin/GlobalInterpreterLock

so you need to spawn many processes

Best regards,

    Marek Mosiewicz

    http://marekmosiewicz.pl


W dniu 23.05.2019 o 20:39, Bob van der Poel pisze:

I've got a short script that loops though a number of files and processes
them one at a time. I had a bit of time today and figured I'd rewrite the
script to process the files 4 at a time by using 4 different instances of
python. My basic loop is:

for i in range(0, len(filelist), CPU_COUNT):
 for z in range(i, i+CPU_COUNT):
 doit( filelist[z])

With the function doit() calling up the program to do the lifting. Setting
CPU_COUNT to 1 or 5 (I have 6 cores) makes no difference in total speed.
I'm processing about 1200 files and my total duration is around 2 minutes.
No matter how many cores I use the total is within a 5 second range.

This is not a big deal ... but I really thought that throwing more
processors at a problem was a wonderful thing :) I figure that the cost of
loading the python libraries and my source file and writing it out are
pretty much i/o bound, but that is just a guess.

Maybe I need to set my sights on bigger, slower programs to see a
difference :)


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Re: Creating type evaluation annotation

2018-12-10 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
W dniu 09.12.2018, nie o godzinie 15∶50 -0500, użytkownik Terry Reedy
napisał:
> 
> Mypy recognizes this sublanguage to 'compute' whether calls conform
> to 
> the defined interfaces.
> 
As far as I understand currently it computes if declaration commits to
static type. What I propose is to annotate type with "duck" typing
checker and futher it could make suggester for duck typing. We can
imagine duck typing suggester for imaginary entity class which accepts
finders like in Ruby on rails : "find_by_name" "find_by_id"
"find_by_name_and_something"

Then when you type "find_" it will suggest futher method name. When you
finish typing "find_by_name_and_length" for example it will force you
to put two paramters of type string and int
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Re: Creating type evaluation annotation

2018-12-09 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I'm talking about this https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html

I'm not talking about new language. I think it could be nice to have
standard PEP annotations for classes to make type validation or type
hints when writing code. 

It would be best of two worlds. Dynamic language with optional type
chceking if somebody wants it. 

In Groovy language there is annotation to indicate that you can not
make calls to methods which do not exist.

It could go futher and you could have annotation which validates
whatever method signature if it is valid. For example you can have
valiadator for something like Ruby on Rails in Ruby language for
methods which starts with find:
invoice.find_by_name
invoice.find_by_name_and_description

It could be even better and give you type hints when you type
method name. In this example when you write in IDE:
invoice.find_by_
it would suggest you futher possible method parts and possible
parameters for method.

This class valiadtors would be optional and run only when developer
wants to validate or write code, not in production as it is heavy.



W dniu 06.12.2018, czw o godzinie 20∶06 +, użytkownik Jon Ribbens
napisał:
> On 2018-12-06, Marek Mosiewicz  wrote:
> > I'm Java developer,but had some experience with Python based
> > ERP software. It is quite serious application and I feel 
> > unconfortable with not having type checking. I do not say language
> > should be static, but having checking method signature
> > is big win. For example in refactoring.
> > I know that Python 3 has possibility to have indicate
> > type for varibale or param
> 
> Are you talking about http://www.mypy-lang.org/ ?
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Creating type evaluation annotation

2018-12-06 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I'm Java developer,but had some experience with Python based
ERP software. It is quite serious application and I feel 
unconfortable with not having type checking. I do not say language
should be static, but having checking method signature
is big win. For example in refactoring.
I know that Python 3 has possibility to have indicate
type for varibale or param
What could be great to have possibility to annotate any 
class with what I call "type evaluator" function.
That could check method signature with rules specific 
for given type.
The simplest evaluator would simply check if signature
is same as method definition. 
But it could go futher. It could check whatever is valid 
logic for creating methods in given class and whatever 
are valid params for given method.
Even more powerful evaluator could be not only
valid/not valid indicator. It could validate
and suggest next param or method part name for given
written part of call. That could make python IDEs
much more powerful
From my experience having signature checking and
hinting params when writing code is really big win.
I could simply refactor 10 lines of code in
Java, but same for Python is much more difficult

Best regards,
Marek Mosiewicz


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