Re: [OT] The Jew Spam on this list: Blocking the IP address of spammers

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
Why aren't these spammers having their IP addresses blocked  (or something 
like that)?  People making these posts should not be allowed to post ever 
again.  Is there not someone administering this mailing list?

> I agree!
>
> On Nov 13, 2007 1:26 PM, Martin Marcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > please do not respond to the "political" spam on this list anymore.
> > Rather report it as spam to your provider/anti-spam-measures or report
> > it to the listmasters (if you have the feeling that it helps, I guess
> > they're already on this issue).
> >
> > I understand that this might be a heated topic but people please it's
> > "just spam" and every message regarding this topic is spam too (funny
> > enough, so is this message) please just add this stuff to your
> > killfile or whatever you use.
> >
> > thanks
> > martin
> >
> > PS: if you must discuss this opinion with me answer to me off list as
> > I guess most people just aren't interested...
> >
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Re: module data member?

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
This did the trick for the most part, but it still leaves a copy of the 
variable A in the "non-module" global namespace (see output below).  

I want A declared global to the module (so as not to be local within the 
functions of the module) but not visible outside of the module namespace 
(like B, see below). How can this be done?

Thanks again

python -i test.py
:>>> print test.A
10
:>>> print A
0
:>>> print B
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in ?
NameError: name 'B' is not defined

test.py___

A = 0

def getA():
  global A
  return A

def run():
  global A
  A = 10

if (__name__=="__main__"):
  import test
  test.run()

__


> def main():
> # do mainy stuff here
>
> if __name__ == "__main__":
>import myself
>myself.main()
>
> This of course won't prevent __main__ to be existant, nor running possible
> initialization code twice. But if the module is supposed to do some work,
> it will operate on the one data all the other importing modules see.
>
> You can take this one step further, using an explicit init()-function that
> creates global state (remember, it's only module-global).
>
> Diez

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Re: how can I interpret a file within the interactive interpreter

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
Still can't get the -m flat to work.  Perhaps this feature is not in the 
version I am using?  Thanks.


-bash-3.00$ python -m test
Unknown option: -m
usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | file | -] [arg] ...
Try `python -h' for more information.


-bash-3.00$ python
Python 2.3.4 (#1, Jan  9 2007, 16:40:09)
[GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>         
>>> 







> Peter J. Bismuti wrote:
> > I want to interpret a file (or whatever you call it) and then keep the
> > interactive interpreter alive so I can then continue to issue commands.
>
> That's what the -i option is for.
>
> > How can this be done?  I saw online a -m flag but it does not seem to
> > work.
>
> -m is used to load a module via python's import mechanism.
>
> $ echo 'print "Hello from", __name__' > tmp.py
>
> $ python -m tmp
> Hello from __main__
>
> $ python -i tmp.py
> Hello from __main__
>
>
> You can combine both options:
>
> $ python -i -m tmp
> Hello from __main__
>
>
> Peter

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module data member?

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
How do you define a "module data member" (I want to understand out how this 
works before making converting to a Class)?

Right now I'm defining variables in a module that get put into the global 
namespace.  Instead I want to put them in a "module global" namespace that 
will be the same regardless of whether not this module is imported or run as 
__main__.  

Thanks

PS Sorry for the near redundant posts. I'm simply trying to refine my question 
as I get a better understanding of what I'm confused about. 

Thanks

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Re: persisting data within a module

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
How is that state different depending on whether a module has been simply 
imported (#2.  some other block of code has __name__ == "__main__") and the 
script itself being run (#1. and having __name__=="__main__")?

Ultimately, what I want is for a module to remember (persist) the value of A, 
regardless of how the module has been loaded into the interpreter.

Thanks

> Modules retain state their state across all imports in the same
> interpreter instance.  Module state is not shared among different
> instances of the interpreter.
>
> > For example, consider the two simple modules below.  The first method
> > fails and I'm not sure exactly why.  (Note:  assume one instance of an
> > interpreter. In my case a 3rd party software tool that starts an
> > interpreter when it launches).
> >
> > Two alternate ways of running it:
> >
> > 1. (FAILS: RESULTS A = 0)  Use the module "test" itself as the driver
> > using the conditional statement if (__name__=="__main__"):
> >
> > test.py
> > run2.py
>
> Ok, what do you mean by this?  Do you mean run test.py and then run
> run2.py?  In so, then you will have *two* instances -- one for each
> file being executed.  You can only have one main module per
> interpreter instance.  I suspect this is the source of your confusion.
>
> > or,
> >
> > 2.  (SUCCES: RESULTS A = 10)   Use "run.py" as the driver.
> >
> > run.py
> >
> > _test.py__
> >
> > import sys,os
> >
> > A = 0
> >
> > def getA():
> >   global A
> >   return A
> >
> > def run():
> >   global A
> >   A = 10
> >
> > if (__name__=="__main__"):
> >   run()
>
> Here, A is only initialized when the module is loaded iff it is the
> main module.  If it's not the main module, then it will have A set to
> 0 until some other code calls run().
>
> > _run.py__
> >
> > import test
> >
> > test.run()
> > print "A = " + str(test.getA())
>
> This code calls test.run(), which is necessary for A to be 10.
>
> > _run2.py__
> >
> > import test
> >
> > print "A = " + str(test.getA())
> >
> > --
>
> This code gets the value of test.A without calling test.run().  Since
> test.run() was not called, A is the value it was initialized when the
> test module was loaded -- namely, 0.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> --Nathan Davis

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how can I interpret a file within the interactive interpreter

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
I want to interpret a file (or whatever you call it) and then keep the 
interactive interpreter alive so I can then continue to issue commands.  

How can this be done?  I saw online a -m flag but it does not seem to work. 

Thanks


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Re: persisting data within a module

2007-11-13 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
I'm not sure how to better state my question than to post my code.  

The question boils down to which namespace to variable in the module (in this 
case A) end up in depending on whether or not the module is simply imported 
by another module which acts as the driver (run.py is __main__), or when the 
module drives itself (test.py __main__).

For example:  my guess is that in the first case A ends up in the namespace of 
test and could be referenced by test.A, in the second case A ends up in the 
global namespace (and therefore must be referred to as simply A by other 
modules).  

Can anyone please shed some light on this for me?

Thanks



> > I'm having trouble understanding how namespaces work in modules.  I want
> > to execute a module within the interpreter and then have values that are
> > calculated persist so that other modules that get executed can retrieve
> > them.
>
> Modules retain state their state across all imports in the same
> interpreter instance.  Module state is not shared among different
> instances of the interpreter.
>
> > For example, consider the two simple modules below.  The first method
> > fails and I'm not sure exactly why.  (Note:  assume one instance of an
> > interpreter. In my case a 3rd party software tool that starts an
> > interpreter when it launches).
> >
> > Two alternate ways of running it:
> >
> > 1. (FAILS: RESULTS A = 0)  Use the module "test" itself as the driver
> > using the conditional statement if (__name__=="__main__"):
> >
> > test.py
> > run2.py
>
> Ok, what do you mean by this?  Do you mean run test.py and then run
> run2.py?  In so, then you will have *two* instances -- one for each
> file being executed.  You can only have one main module per
> interpreter instance.  I suspect this is the source of your confusion.
>
> > or,
> >
> > 2.  (SUCCES: RESULTS A = 10)   Use "run.py" as the driver.
> >
> > run.py
> >
> > _test.py__
> >
> > import sys,os
> >
> > A = 0
> >
> > def getA():
> >   global A
> >   return A
> >
> > def run():
> >   global A
> >   A = 10
> >
> > if (__name__=="__main__"):
> >   run()
>
> Here, A is only initialized when the module is loaded iff it is the
> main module.  If it's not the main module, then it will have A set to
> 0 until some other code calls run().
>
> > _run.py__
> >
> > import test
> >
> > test.run()
> > print "A = " + str(test.getA())
>
> This code calls test.run(), which is necessary for A to be 10.
>
> > _run2.py__
> >
> > import test
> >
> > print "A = " + str(test.getA())
> >
> > --
>
> This code gets the value of test.A without calling test.run().  Since
> test.run() was not called, A is the value it was initialized when the
> test module was loaded -- namely, 0.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> --Nathan Davis

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Re: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love

2007-11-12 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
Be nice.

> Boy, you really have to get a clue.
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persisting data within a module

2007-11-12 Thread Peter J. Bismuti
I'm having trouble understanding how namespaces work in modules.  I want to 
execute a module within the interpreter and then have values that are 
calculated persist so that other modules that get executed can retrieve them. 

For example, consider the two simple modules below.  The first method fails 
and I'm not sure exactly why.  (Note:  assume one instance of an interpreter.  
In my case a 3rd party software tool that starts an interpreter when it 
launches).  


Two alternate ways of running it:

1. (FAILS: RESULTS A = 0)  Use the module "test" itself as the driver using 
the conditional statement if (__name__=="__main__"):

test.py
run2.py

or, 

2.  (SUCCES: RESULTS A = 10)   Use "run.py" as the driver.  

run.py
 



_test.py__


import sys,os

A = 0

def getA():
  global A
  return A

def run():
  global A
  A = 10

if (__name__=="__main__"):
  run()


_run.py__

import test

test.run()
print "A = " + str(test.getA())



_run2.py__

import test

print "A = " + str(test.getA())

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accessing attributes when inheriting?

2006-03-16 Thread Peter J. Bismuti


How do you access attributes of a class when inheriting from it? Can't you 
just say:

self.attribute?  

Help?!
...
#!/usr/bin/python

from Dialog import Dialog
import enscmd

class RatDialog(Dialog):
def __init__(self,parent = Dialog,name = "RatDialog",modal = 0,fl = 0):
Dialog.__init__(self)
self.ClipListView.header().setLabel(0,self.__tr("Clips"))