Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Philippa Cowderoy wrote: > > > Hrmm, does that one differ in Scotland? > > I don't believe so. > My statement was intended in the context of UK law - I have to admit to not knowing too much about what's different north of the border beyond the infamous verdict though. > > Wrong pronoun, then. > > Well, your comment was challenged, and I offered a reasonable interpretation > of what you might have meant (which indicated a more general point in any > case, namely that libel law is not quite as simple as the original poster was > making it out to be). If you don't wish to defend your position, that's fine, > but pointing fingers is kind of weird at this stage. > I'd still appreciate being referred to as "she" rather than "he" though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'In Ankh-Morpork even the shit have a street to itself... Truly this is a land of opportunity.' - Detritus, Men at Arms -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Philippa Cowderoy wrote: > > > It is. However, the onus is on the defendant to show that it's true, rather > > than on the claimant to show that it's false. > > That also depends on the jurisdiction. > Hrmm, does that one differ in Scotland? > > I assume the "he" refers to Brandon? > > No, I was referring to the person who he was replying to, i.e., you. > Wrong pronoun, then. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Society does not owe people jobs. Society owes it to itself to find people jobs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Mike Schilling wrote: > > > If I were to write, say, that Tony Blair's tax policy will lead to higher > > deficits, I could be convicted of libel? Even if that's true, it's not a > > priori provable. > > I think what he was getting at is that, unlike many jurisdictions, writing > something factually true is _not_ in and of itself a defense against a libel > suit in the UK. > It is. However, the onus is on the defendant to show that it's true, rather than on the claimant to show that it's false. I assume the "he" refers to Brandon? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A problem that's all in your head is still a problem. Brain damage is but one form of mind damage. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Mike Schilling wrote: > I'm not aware of any definition of libel that includes "making statements > that are not provably true". > I believe UK law uses one that's close to it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Society does not owe people jobs. Society owes it to itself to find people jobs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Philippa Cowderoy wrote: > > > Rather a lot depends on which legal system you're in, for a start. Including > > the standards of proof and who the onus is on. > > Oh, no doubt. But I don't think there's any modern legal system in which it's > a crime, rather than a tort. Is there? > I'm not aware of a current legal system where it's the case, but I don't know the details of many of them. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] A problem that's all in your head is still a problem. Brain damage is but one form of mind damage. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Xah Lee network abuse
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Erik Max Francis wrote: > Mallor wrote: > > > I know I'm coming late to the barbeque. In passing, I ask: do you have > > an objective, impartial perspective on the subject of committing > > crimes? Because libel is a crime. > > No, it is a tort. > Rather a lot depends on which legal system you're in, for a start. Including the standards of proof and who the onus is on. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. Most of the time you just get burnt worse though. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lambda: the Ultimate Design Flaw
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Frank Wilde wrote: Continuations rule! While continuations are a very interesting abstraction, the improvement of structured programming was to be able to prove properties of your programs in time linear to the size of the program instead of quadratic. I don't see how giving arguments to the GOTO would help there. By allowing you to build your own control structures, whose properties you prove once before using them to prove properties in the programs that use them. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no magic bullet. There are, however, plenty of bullets that magically home in on feet when not used in exactly the right circumstances. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
