Re: PyCharm
On Oct 14, 4:16 pm, Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > Yip. I'm using it and for the most part like it. But... > > I used their Java IDE for years (it totally rocks, highly recommended), so I > it is very comfortable to use PyCharm. > > One thing that bugs me in refactoring though is that renaming a method or > variable does not necessarily work. It's supposed to track down all > references and correctly change them, but it tends to be hit or miss. No > problem though, since I just do a search of the files in question and do it > manually. Still, the Java refactoring engine works very well indeed and id > one of their major selling points. Code completion works, you can specify > different Python versions (helpful) and there is Django support. > > The debugger, though I have only had limited use for it, does seem to work > well too. > > Certainly give it a shot. The only other IDE I found that was remotely close > to it was Komodo which costs a lot more (Jetbrains is offering a 50% off > coupon as a promotional offer for a while.) > > Hope this helps... > Thanks for the answer. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyCharm
On Oct 14, 8:49 pm, alex23 wrote: > Jeffrey Gaynor wrote: > > Certainly give it a shot. The only other IDE I found that was > > remotely close to it was Komodo which costs a lot more > > (Jetbrains is offering a 50% off coupon as a promotional offer > > for a while.) > > I recently tried out PyCharm in anger after something (I forget what) > in Komodo was bothering me. In Komodo's defence, it supports Perl, > PHP, Python & Ruby, two of which I use daily, so replacing it would > require my buying two IDEs: PyCharm & PHPStorm. > > It would just be a damn sight easier if I didn't have to suffer under > PHP :( Yes, it is the multi-language support in Komodo that is pushing me that way. Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PyCharm
Since the new IDE from Jetbrains is out I was wondering if "you" are using it and what "you" think about it. I have to start learning Python for a project at work and I am looking around for options. Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.6.4rc1
On Oct 7, 1:18 pm, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Hello everyone. > > The source tarballs and Windows installers for Python 2.6.4rc1 are now > available: > > http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.4/ > > Please download them, install them, and try to use them with your > projects and environments. Let us know if you encounter any problems > with them. Hopefully we can avoid the situation with 2.6.3 having > such critical bugs. > > 2.6.4 final is planned for 18-October. > > Cheers, > -Barry > > PGP.sig > < 1KViewDownload So I take it builds based on 2.6.3 should be avoided? Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: ActivePython 2.6.3.7 (and PyPM) is now available
On Oct 6, 8:16 pm, "Sridhar Ratnakumar" wrote: > I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.6.3.7 is now available for > download from: > > http://www.activestate.com/activepython/ > > This is a patch-level release that updates ActivePython to core Python > 2.6.3 along with the fixes for a couple of critical regressions that > instigated the work on 2.6.4. See the release notes for full details: > > http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/relnotes.html > > Introducing PyPM > > > This release includes a new packaging tool by activestate called Python > Package Manager (PyPM). PyPM - currently in beta - is the package > management utility for ActivePython. It simplifies the task of locating, > installing, upgrading and removing Python modules. For full details, > see: > > http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/pypm.html > > Here's a sample command line output:: > > $ pypm install lxml > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] :repository-index: > Ready to perform these actions: > The following packages will be installed: > lxml-2.2.2 > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] lxml 2.2.2-1 > Installing lxml-2.2.2 > $ python > >>> import lxml.etree > >>>^D > > $ pypm remove lxml > Ready to perform these actions: > The following packages will be removed: > lxml-2.2.2 > Removing lxml-2.2.2 > > $ pypm install pylons > Ready to perform these actions: > The following packages will be installed: > pastescript-1.7.3 formencode-1.2.2 weberror-0.10.1 simplejson-2.0.9 > routes-1.11 nose-0.11.1 mako-0.2.5 past > edeploy-1.3.3 pylons-0.9.7 tempita-0.4 webtest-1.2 beaker-1.4.2 > webhelpers-0.6.4 paste-1.7.2 pygments-1.1.1 > decorator-3.1.2 webob-0.9.6.1 > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] formencode 1.2.2-1 > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] nose 0.11.1-1 > [...] > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] decorator 3.1.2-1 > Get: [pypm.activestate.com] webob 0.9.6.1-1 > Installing formencode-1.2.2 > Installing weberror-0.10.1 > [...] > Installing pygments-1.1.1 > Fixing script /home/sridharr/.local/bin/pygmentize > Installing decorator-3.1.2 > > What is ActivePython? > - > > ActivePython is ActiveState's binary distribution of Python. Builds for > Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, HP-UX and AIX are made freely available. > > ActivePython includes the Python core and the many core extensions: zlib > and bzip2 for data compression, the Berkeley DB (bsddb) and SQLite > (sqlite3) database libraries, OpenSSL bindings for HTTPS support, the > Tix GUI widgets for Tkinter, ElementTree for XML processing, ctypes (on > supported platforms) for low-level library access, and others. The > Windows distribution ships with PyWin32 -- a suite of Windows tools > developed by Mark Hammond, including bindings to the Win32 API and > Windows COM. See this page for full details: > > http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/whatsincluded.html > > As well, ActivePython ships with a wealth of documentation for both new > and experienced Python programmers. In addition to the core Python docs, > ActivePython includes the "What's New in Python" series, "Dive into > Python", the Python FAQs & HOWTOs, and the Python Enhancement Proposals > (PEPs). > > An online version of the docs can be found here: > > http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.6/ > > We would welcome any and all feedback to: > > activepython-feedb...@activestate.com > > Please file bugs against ActivePython at: > > http://bugs.activestate.com/query.cgi?set_product=ActivePython > > On what platforms does ActivePython run? > > > ActivePython includes installers for the following platforms: > > - Windows/x86 > - Windows/x64 (aka "AMD64") > - Mac OS X > - Linux/x86 > - Linux/x86_64 (aka "AMD64") > - Solaris/SPARC > - Solaris/x86 > - HP-UX/PA-RISC > - AIX/PowerPC > - AIX/PowerPC 64-bit > > Extra Bits > -- > > ActivePython releases also include the following: > > - ActivePython26.chm: An MS compiled help collection of the full > ActivePython documentation set. Linux users of applications such as > xCHM might find this useful. This package is installed by default on > Windows. > > Extra bits are available from: > > http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePython/etc/ > > Thanks, and enjoy! > > The Python Team > > -- > Sridhar Ratnakumar > sridharr at activestate.com Very nice, I will try it out since I am in the process of learning Python. Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Haskell's new logo, and the idiocy of tech geekers
http://blog.plover.com/prog/haskell/logo.html Oops... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActivePython 3.1.1.2 vs Python 3.1.1 for OSX?
On Sep 30, 9:28 pm, srid wrote: > On Sep 30, 4:51 pm, Robert Hicks wrote: > > > I am just curious which I should use. I am going to start learning > > Python soon. Are they comparable and I just do a "eenie meenie minie > > moe"? > > ActivePython is essentially same as the installers from python.org - > but it also comes with additional documentation and tutorials, such > as: > > Python FAQs > A snapshot of the Python Enhancement Proposals (PEPs) (For the most > recent version, refer to the PEPs on python.org .) > Dive Into Python (A tutorial for programmers) > Non-Programmers Tutorial For Python > > http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/3.1/whatsincluded.html > > Also note that 2.6.x is probably the best bet if you are going to use > some 3rd party libraries (after you learn the basics of Python) .. > because 3.x does not have many of those libraries ported yet. > > http://www.activestate.com/activepython/ > > Further, early next week - a new release of ActivePython-2.6 will be > made available that will include, for the first time, a new Python > package manager (PyPM) from ActiveState that makes it easier to > install packages from pypi.python.org (without having to compile them > yourself). This is similar to PPM from ActivePerl. > > -srid Thanks! Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActivePython 3.1.1.2 vs Python 3.1.1 for OSX?
On Sep 30, 9:07 pm, Jon Clements wrote: > On 1 Oct, 00:51, Robert Hicks wrote: > > > I am just curious which I should use. I am going to start learning > > Python soon. Are they comparable and I just do a "eenie meenie minie > > moe"? > > > Bob > > First off, a great choice of language to begin trying! Is it your > first language (I'm guessing not), or do you come from another > 'background'. > > Basically, Active is a possible 'superset' of the main distro. of > Python. So, for Windows, for instance, it will offer com objects > etc... > > I normally stick with the Python core, then use additional libraries > where appropriate. > > Just my 2p, > > Jon. Yes, I currently do my SA stuff in Perl. We added a product that uses Python (and as a side my son wants to learn Blender) so I thought I might look into it is as well. Thank you for the reply. Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
