Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-05 Thread Steve Burrus
*so what is my hopefully sinple solution anyway? i do n't see myself
anytime soon getting off of Build 10074 of Win 10. i don't have pip in the
Scripts folder where I was told it should be. I was thinking of doing a
complete disinstall/reinstall of Python 3.4 to see if that helps.  *


*On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, eryksun <eryk...@gmail.com
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> *On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Steve Burrus <steveburru...@gmail.com
> <steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > "C:\Users\SteveB>py -m pip > Job
> information querying failed You're using build 10074, an old build of
> Windows 10 that had a buggy Job object API. This was fixed in build 10159:
> http://bugs.python.org/issue24127 <http://bugs.python.org/issue24127> FYI,
> the py launcher runs Python in a job that's configured to kill Python if
> the the launcher gets killed. This is necessary if py.exe is started by a
> console shell such as cmd.exe or powershell.exe. The shell waits on py.exe,
> not python.exe. If the job didn't kill python.exe, then Python would
> compete with the shell for console input. *
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-05 Thread Steve Burrus
*Boy "eryksun" I can certsainly  tell that you are quite a technically -
minded person! All that matters to me is that I can simply type "pip" at
the command prompt without any problems. Well another [lesser] concern is
that I can't use the regular Windows 10 instead of this Build 10074 of it.*

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    Steve Burrus *


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> *On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Steve Burrus <steveburru...@gmail.com
> <steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote: > well everyone there must be sometjhing
> about upgrading Python up to version 3.5 rc > because everything works just
> fine now, beyond my wildest dreams! I am even able > now to type in "pip"
> and get the usual info. on it and I have connected to the Django > server
> and configured the admin so thanx for eveyone who tried to help me. I just
> tested running pip.exe on a VM with Windows 10, build 10074. It surprised
> me that it worked, so I checked the source code of Vinay's [simple
> launcher][1]. Apparently the simpler launcher merely asserts that creating
> the job object succeeds, so it will only fail in a debug build. (See
> run_child in launcher.c). Depending on the nature of the script it could be
> confusing if there's no job object and the launcher gets killed. This
> leaves python.exe and the shell competing for console input. That said, it
> shouldn't really matter for a simple program such as pip. But the full
> py.exe launcher used by Python always fails if creating the job object
> doesn't succeed. (Oddly, it doesn't fail if *assigning* the child to the
> job fails; I guess because Windows 7 lacks support for job hierarchies, but
> still, it makes no sense to care about creating something that you don't
> care about using.) So for build 10074 of Windows 10, ensure the filetypes
> for .py and .pyw scripts (installed as Python.File and Python.NoConFile)
> run python.exe and pythonw.exe instead of py.exe and pyw.exe. Otherwise you
> won't be able to run scripts directly at the command prompt or by double
> clicking them in Explorer. [1]:
> https://bitbucket.org/vinay.sajip/simple_launcher/src
> <https://bitbucket.org/vinay.sajip/simple_launcher/src> *
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 10:12:23 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 04/09/2015 02:04, Steve Burrus wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 7:06:27 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2015 23:20, Steve Burrus wrote:
> >>> Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in 
> >>> Python 3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing 
> >>> "pip" into my command prompt and then getting back the normal information 
> >>> on pip! I have repeatedly downloaded [to my Desktop] that get-pip.py file 
> >>> then  ran it. I even downloaded that easy-install.py and ran that but to 
> >>> no success! I have all of the proper env. variables set. Can someone 
> >>> please help me?
> >>
> >> As always my main and spare crystal balls are at the menders due to
> >> overwork, so I'll have to ask, what happened when you tried the 'pip',
> >> 'get-pip.py' and 'easy-install.py' commands?  What OS are you on?
> >>
> >> --
> >> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
> >> what you can do for our language.
> >>
> >> Mark Lawrence
> >
> > I have tried the 'python get-pip.py' command over amnd over again in my 
> > command prompt and the 'python easy-install.py" command a little less. I 
> > swear I have set ALL of the env. variables correctly! My OS is Windows 10 
> > Beta Preview Build 10074.
> >
> 
> I'm awfully sorry, but my crystal balls still aren't back from the 
> menders, so let's try again.  Precisely explain what happened when you 
> tried the 'pip', 'get-pip.py' and 'easy-install.py' commands?  Could it 
> have been nuclear holocaust, ice cream dripping down your shirt front, 
> something like "pip isn't recognised as a Windows command", or whatever 
> the wording actually is, or even a Python traceback, in which case 
> please cut and paste it, in full, here?
> 
> -- 
> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
> what you can do for our language.
> 
> Mark Lawrence

okay Mark her is what you haVE wanted of me :

"C:\Users\SteveB>py -m pip
Job information querying failed

C:\Users\SteveB>python -m pip

Usage:
  C:\Python34\python.exe -m pip  [options]

Commands:
  install Install packages.
  uninstall   Uninstall packages.
  freeze  Output installed packages in requirements format.
  listList installed packages.
  showShow information about installed packages.
  search  Search PyPI for packages.
  wheel   Build wheels from your requirements.
  helpShow help for commands.

General Options:
  -h, --help  Show help.
  --isolated  Run pip in an isolated mode, ignoring
  environment variables and user configuration.
  -v, --verbose   Give more output. Option is additive, and can be
  used up to 3 times.
  -V, --version   Show version and exit.
  -q, --quiet Give less output.
  --log Path to a verbose appending log.
  --proxy  Specify a proxy in the form
  [user:passwd@]proxy.server:port.
  --retries  Maximum number of retries each connection should
  attempt (default 5 times).
  --timeout  Set the socket timeout (default 15 seconds).
  --exists-action Default action when a path already exists:
  (s)witch, (i)gnore, (w)ipe, (b)ackup.
  --trusted-hostMark this host as trusted, even though it does
  not have valid or any HTTPS.
  --certPath to alternate CA bundle.
  --client-cert Path to SSL client certificate, a single file
  containing the private key and the certificate
  in PEM format.
  --cache-dirStore the cache data in .
  --no-cache-dir  Disable the cache.
  --disable-pip-version-check
  Don't periodically check PyPI to determine
  whether a new version of pip is available for
  download. Implied with --no-index."

so why is it that the "python -m pip" command works but not the "py -m pip" 
command? And someone said I have a "pathing" problem [with my pip installation] 
can you please help me with that? 
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 5:20:17 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote:
> Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in Python 
> 3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing "pip" into 
> my command prompt and then getting back the normal information on pip! I have 
> repeatedly downloaded [to my Desktop] that get-pip.py file then  ran it. I 
> even downloaded that easy-install.py and ran that but to no success! I have 
> all of the proper env. variables set. Can someone please help me?

Well I think that this is a Win 10 "thing" befcause using previous versions of 
Windows all I had to do was to type in "pip" to get the pip info. but  now 
apparently it's "python -m pip". Can someone please "set me straight" about the 
path I should be using if I have a "pathing" problem?
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-04 Thread Steve Burrus
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 9:20:14 PM UTC-5, Rob Hills wrote:
> On 05/09/15 08:55, MRAB wrote:
> > On 2015-09-05 01:35, Rob Hills wrote:
> >> On 05/09/15 01:47, Cody Piersall wrote:
> >>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Burrus
> >>> <steveburru...@gmail.com <mailto:steveburru...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >> <..>
> >>> >> "echo %path%
> >>> >>
> >>> >> C:\Python34;C:\Python34\python.exe;C:\Python34\Scripts;
> >>
> >> It's a long time since I last used Windoze in anger, but that second
> >> path entry (C:\Python34\python.exe;) looks wrong to me.  Unless Windoze
> >> has changed recently, you shouldn't have a program name in your path.
> >> IIRC, that's going to break all path entries that follow it, so it could
> >> be the cause of your problem (ie the "C:\Python34\Scripts;" part won't
> >> be accessible.
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> >> Perhaps try deleting the "C:\Python34\python.exe;" entry from your PATH
> >> environment variable and see what happens.
> >>
> > It should be a list of folder paths. Including a file path doesn't
> > appear to break it, and, in fact, I'd be surprised if it did; it should
> > just keep searching, much like it should if the folder were missing.
> 
> You're probably right, but my recollection of Windoze is that it was
> very easily broken, hence my migration to Linux many moons ago.  I
> reckon it wouldn't hurt to try getting rid of the invalid path entry anyway.
> 
well everyone there must be sometjhing about upgrading Python up to version 3.5 
rc because everything works just fine now, beyond my wildest dreams! I am even 
able now to type in "pip" and get the usual info. on it and I have connected to 
the Django server and configured the admin so thanx for eveyone who tried to 
help me. 
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Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-03 Thread Steve Burrus
Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in Python 
3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing "pip" into my 
command prompt and then getting back the normal information on pip! I have 
repeatedly downloaded [to my Desktop] that get-pip.py file then  ran it. I even 
downloaded that easy-install.py and ran that but to no success! I have all of 
the proper env. variables set. Can someone please help me?

   
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-03 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 7:06:27 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 03/09/2015 23:20, Steve Burrus wrote:
> > Well I hjave certainly noted more than once that pip is cont ained in 
> > Python 3.4. But I am having the most extreme problems with simply typing 
> > "pip" into my command prompt and then getting back the normal information 
> > on pip! I have repeatedly downloaded [to my Desktop] that get-pip.py file 
> > then  ran it. I even downloaded that easy-install.py and ran that but to no 
> > success! I have all of the proper env. variables set. Can someone please 
> > help me?
> 
> As always my main and spare crystal balls are at the menders due to 
> overwork, so I'll have to ask, what happened when you tried the 'pip', 
> 'get-pip.py' and 'easy-install.py' commands?  What OS are you on?
> 
> -- 
> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
> what you can do for our language.
> 
> Mark Lawrence

I have tried the 'python get-pip.py' command over amnd over again in my command 
prompt and the 'python easy-install.py" command a little less. I swear I have 
set ALL of the env. variables correctly! My OS is Windows 10 Beta Preview Build 
10074. 
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Re: Need Help w. PIP!

2015-09-03 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 8:55:52 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Steve Burrus <steveburru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have tried the 'python get-pip.py' command over amnd over again in my 
> > command prompt and the 'python easy-install.py" command a little less. I 
> > swear I have set ALL of the env. variables correctly! My OS is Windows 10 
> > Beta Preview Build 10074.
> >
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> What happens if you type "python -m pip" ? Or "python3 -m pip"? Does
> that invoke pip?
> 
> ChrisA

Well chris when I typed in"python -m pip" it worked but nopt with "python3
- m pip"! Why do you think that is?
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How Do I ............?

2015-07-31 Thread Steve Burrus
How Do I access tkinter in Python 3.4 anyway? I've tried and  tried but cannot 
do it. 
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Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-25 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:50:47 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote:
 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
  On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus steveburru...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
   I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of 
   python to get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version  that comes 
   with python 3.4.*?
  
  What system are you on? What did you do to install Python? On Windows,
  the python.org installers usually come with IDLE; on some Linuxes,
  it's separately distributed; if you got a third-party Python distro,
  it's up to them what they put in it. But yes, you most certainly can
  get 3.4+ with IDLE.
  
  ChrisA
 
 Well I am exactly on Windows 10 beta preview on a 64 bit system. Idle is on 
 my Programs menu but I cannot actually activate it.

I am sorry folks biut this isn't resolved yet about not being able to get the 
Idle in Python 3.4! Does it not work in WIndows 10?




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Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python to 
get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version  that comes with python 3.4.*? 
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Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus steveburru...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python 
  to get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version  that comes with python 
  3.4.*?
 
 What system are you on? What did you do to install Python? On Windows,
 the python.org installers usually come with IDLE; on some Linuxes,
 it's separately distributed; if you got a third-party Python distro,
 it's up to them what they put in it. But yes, you most certainly can
 get 3.4+ with IDLE.
 
 ChrisA

Well I am exactly on Windows 10 beta preview on a 64 bit system. Idle is on my 
Programs menu but I cannot actually activate it.
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Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
Listen I got back the Idle EAditor the other day but I had to install the 
older, version 2.7, version of Python to get it. So naturally I w onder if I 
can get Idle for version 3.4.*?


 
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Need Help w. Getting the Eclipse Python Add-On.

2015-07-17 Thread Steve Burrus
I Need immediate Help w. Getting the Eclipse Python Add-On. I looked all around 
the Eclipse website to try to get this but didn't see the add-on for this. Can 
someone please help me to find it? Thanx.

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Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Steve Burrus
I need some deg4ree of help w ith the Idle Python Editor. I am using 64 bit win 
10 beta preview and every time that I try to bring up Idle I cannot! Now I am 
using both 32 and 64 bit versions of Idle [for some reason] Can someone please 
help me with this?
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Using import math.

2015-06-06 Thread Steve Burrus
I need some help/assistance with using the python import math function. Like 
I am trying to do a = math.sqrt(1000)
  a.sqrt
but it fails. what am I doing wrong? Thanx for anyone's help.


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