Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-10 Thread Waylen Gumbal
George Neuner wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 22:38:44 -0700, "Waylen Gumbal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:



> > Not everyone follows language-neutral groups (such as
> > comp,programming as you pointed out), so you actually reach more
> > people by cross posting. This is what I don't understand - everyone
> > seems to assume that by cross posting, one intends on start a
> > "flamefest", when in fact most such "flamefests" are started by
> > those who cannot bring themselves to skipping over the topic that
> > they so dislike.
>
> The problem is that many initial posts have topics that are misleading
> or simplistic.  Often an interesting discussion can start on some
> point the initial poster never considered or meant to raise.

Is this not a possibility for any topic, whether it's cross-posted or 
not?


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Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-08 Thread Waylen Gumbal
Jürgen Exner wrote:
> "Waylen Gumbal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sherman Pendley wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > >
> > > > > PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> > > > > FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> > Not everyone follows language-neutral groups (such as
> > comp,programming as you pointed out), so you actually reach more
> > people by cross posting.
>
> You seem so have failed to grasp the concept of why Usenet is divided
> into separate groups in the first place.

No, not really. You keep group specific content in the applicable group 
or groups only. But are there not times where content overlaps the 
topics of multiple groups and to get maximum feedback, post to all 
applicable groups (the keyword being "applicable") ?

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Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-08 Thread Waylen Gumbal
Lew wrote:
> Waylen Gumbal wrote:
>> Not everyone follows language-neutral groups (such as
>> comp,programming as you pointed out), so you actually reach more
>> people by cross posting. This is what I don't understand - everyone
>> seems to assume that by cross posting, one intends on start a
>> "flamefest", when in fact most such "flamefests" are started by
>> those who cannot bring themselves to skipping over the topic that
>> they so dislike.
>
> It's not an assumption in Xah Lee's case.  He spams newsgroups
> irregularly with rehashed essays from years ago, and a number of
> people are just tired of him.

I did not know this. One should obviously not do that.

> Don't blame the victims for the perpetrator's actions, OK?

I'm not blaming any "victims", but I don't see anyone saying "read this 
or else", so why not just skip the thread or toss the OP in your 
killfile so you don't see his postings. If others want to discuss his 
topics, who are you or I to tell them not to?

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Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-08 Thread Waylen Gumbal
Sherman Pendley wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> > > FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> >
> > I don't think Xah is trolling here (contrary to his/her habit)
> > but posing an interesting matter of discussion.
>
> It might be interesting in the abstract, but any such discussion, when
> cross-posted to multiple language groups on usenet, will inevitably
> devolve into a flamewar as proponents of the various languages argue
> about which language better expresses the ideas being talked about.
> It's like a law of usenet or something.
>
> If Xah wanted an interesting discussion, he could have posted this to
> one language-neutral group such as comp.programming. He doesn't want
> that - he wants the multi-group flamefest.

Not everyone follows language-neutral groups (such as comp,programming 
as you pointed out), so you actually reach more people by cross posting. 
This is what I don't understand - everyone seems to assume that by cross 
posting, one intends on start a "flamefest", when in fact most such 
"flamefests" are started by those who cannot bring themselves to 
skipping over the topic that they so dislike.

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