Re: Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-23 Thread dfaber
Hi Francois,
 Thank you for providing me the evdev link! That was exactly what I was
looking for. Instead of sudo'ing the script, I changed /dev/input/
directory to be world readable.
After that, I had to change the way a file was accessed in evdev.py to:
Line No: 91 #self.fd = os.open(filename, os.O_RDWR |
os.O_NONBLOCK)
self.fd = os.open(filename, os.O_RDONLY | os.O_NONBLOCK)

Runs great.

Thanks again.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello dfaber,

 I had the same problem not long ago. I tried to use the Xlib since its
 obvious the X server  has all the events but I couldn't have the mouse
 events if my app was out of focus. If you have a way to do that I'm
 really interested.

 Anyway I found this to be a good introduction to Xlib:
 http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/tutorials/xlib-programming/xlib-programming.html#preface

 Since I didn't find a way to do it I went down to the source of the
 events which are provided by the evdev drivers:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evdev

 Fortunately you can use Python to access it:
 http://svn.navi.cx/misc/trunk/python/evdev/

 First you need to know your input devices, search the eventX in
 relation to your device here:
 cat /proc/bus/input/devices

 Then you can do:
 sudo python evdev.py /dev/input/eventX  # where X is the event number
 in relation to your device (kb is usually zero)

 It works well but there is two problems with this solution:
 - the root access is annoying (but I'll have to try Diez suggestion)
 - The X event number of the mouse can change from a PC to another one
 (you need to check the PC first with that cat command and search for
 your mouse

 francois





 dfaber wrote:
  Hi all,
   I have been searching for a keyboard and mouse tracker on linux. I've
  read solutions (watch at sourceforge) which look at /proc/interrupts to
  check keyboard or mouse activity. I also read one post where watch
  seems to have difficulty tracking usb keyboards and mice. So, I'm out
  of ideas here.
 
  My goal are:
  1. Check keyboard activity. I'm not interested in logging which keys
  are pressed or record them.
  2. Monitor mouse activity. I want to know the pointer position,
  left-clicks, right-clicks, middle-mouse button usage.
 
  I know that these things can be done in a GUI environment. I am looking
  for some approach that helps me do this system-wide.
 
  Any suggestions would be welcome. Again, I am looking for trackers on
  Linux based machines.

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Re: Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-18 Thread dfaber
That IS brain-crushingly complicated. However, thanks for the insight.
I really appreciate it.


Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
 On 17 Jul 2006 21:00:09 -0700, dfaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed
 the following in comp.lang.python:

  Is there no clean method of accessing the keyboard device or the mouse
  on linux?
  It seems that looking at /proc/interrupts might prove to be useful for
  keyboard monitoring. What about checking if the left mouse button is
  clicked or finding the position of the cursor on the screen?

   For a GUI application, it probably depends upon the interface
 supplied by that GUI system... So far as I know, all Linux variants are
 using an X-Window clone as the bottom protocol.

   Problem: X-Window supports remote displays; you'd need a means of
 specifying which display to track (unless you've opened a GUI
 application and that application is asking for positions -- but it may
 not be able to track outside the application window... Sorry to be so
 vague -- I last coded an X interface back in 1990, using xt/DECWindows
 calls; didn't even have a GUI designer available*)

   I don't think anyone has ported raw X-protocol access to Python.

   All those monitoring operations you are asking for are events to
 a windowing environment, and applications have to register for the
 events they are interested in seeing.



 * If working raw xt/DECWindows wasn't bad enough... Add GKS (is that
 still around?) on top of it -- I had a DECWindows UI whose main window
 was a plain drawing region, and GKS was used to handle the underlying
 data. The application was both graphics intensive, and needed a display
 list (in scaleable coordinates to handle window resize) for refresh
 operations; it used a 32 color data field, and four or so single color
 overlays -- and any one of the five could be enabled/disabled without
 requiring a recomputation of the drawing. This mess was because the
 DECWindows/GKS application was an emulation (at the API level) of a late
 70s/early 80s RAMTEK graphics engine... The main application was
 really something like 50 specialized programs that all connected to
 the graphics engine, drew some data, and exited; allowing other
 programs in the suite to draw on the /same/ window -- which is why the
 need for GKS; refreshes couldn't ask for the source application to
 repaint the screen. {The very oldest version of the software ran on
 PDP-11s, hence the modular programs, the control program would collect
 user data/parameters, write a common block file then invoke the needed
 submodule as an overlay.
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Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-17 Thread dfaber
Hi all,
 I have been searching for a keyboard and mouse tracker on linux. I've
read solutions (watch at sourceforge) which look at /proc/interrupts to
check keyboard or mouse activity. I also read one post where watch
seems to have difficulty tracking usb keyboards and mice. So, I'm out
of ideas here.

My goal are:
1. Check keyboard activity. I'm not interested in logging which keys
are pressed or record them.
2. Monitor mouse activity. I want to know the pointer position,
left-clicks, right-clicks, middle-mouse button usage.

I know that these things can be done in a GUI environment. I am looking
for some approach that helps me do this system-wide.

Any suggestions would be welcome. Again, I am looking for trackers on
Linux based machines.

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Re: Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-17 Thread dfaber
So, how would I access /dev/input/ devices?
Can I just 'cat' them or read in those files?


Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  Diez You could use the /dev/input/event* devices.
 
  On the only Linux system I have available (Mojam's CentOS-based web server),
  /dev/input/* are readable only by root.  That doesn't seem like it would be
  very useful to tools like watch unless they were to run suid to root
  (creating other problems).

 You don't need to give it root access. A simple rule for the udev that
 looks like this:

 KERNEL==event[0-9]*,NAME=input/%k, MODE=0444


 will make the devices world readable. While I haven't thought about any
 security implications that might have (and am not especially
 knowledgeable in such things to be honest), I'm convinced it is way less
 likely to introduce any exploitable holes than suid root would.
 
 Diez

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Re: Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-17 Thread dfaber
So, how would I access /dev/input/ devices?
Can I just 'cat' them or read in those files?


Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
  Diez You could use the /dev/input/event* devices.
 
  On the only Linux system I have available (Mojam's CentOS-based web server),
  /dev/input/* are readable only by root.  That doesn't seem like it would be
  very useful to tools like watch unless they were to run suid to root
  (creating other problems).

 You don't need to give it root access. A simple rule for the udev that
 looks like this:

 KERNEL==event[0-9]*,NAME=input/%k, MODE=0444


 will make the devices world readable. While I haven't thought about any
 security implications that might have (and am not especially
 knowledgeable in such things to be honest), I'm convinced it is way less
 likely to introduce any exploitable holes than suid root would.
 
 Diez

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Re: Track keyboard and mouse usage

2006-07-17 Thread dfaber
Is there no clean method of accessing the keyboard device or the mouse
on linux?
It seems that looking at /proc/interrupts might prove to be useful for
keyboard monitoring. What about checking if the left mouse button is
clicked or finding the position of the cursor on the screen?

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starting and stopping a program from inside a python script

2006-07-03 Thread dfaber
Aloha!
 I want to terminate a process/program from within a python script.

For example,
if I have a program say foo.sh that starts running, then I can run it
from within a python script using
os.popen('foo.sh') which starts a program/process say 'bar'

At some point later,  I want to kill 'bar'. Currently, I start off the
process and then when the python script exits, the process 'bar' is
still running and I have to issue ps -ef  | grep 'bar' and then kill
it.

Is there any better way of doing this?

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Re: Python editor recommendation.

2006-05-09 Thread dfaber
I use Eclipse with the Pydev plugin. It's great way to start
familiarizing yourself with Python. The editor has got great features
and the debugger will be a great help too. Vim is great too but may be
not a good idea if you are new to Python.

Good luck!

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python and webcam

2006-02-12 Thread dfaber
Hi,
 I have Logitech webcam and I need to grab images on Fedora Core 4 (not
my favorite distro). Are there any python modules available for doing
this? Any hints or suggestions would be welcome. 

Thanks.

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Re: python and webcam

2006-02-12 Thread dfaber
It is a  Win32 Python Extension. I am looking for something that work
on Linux.

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Re: python and webcam

2006-02-12 Thread dfaber
Thank you for your help. I will look around for v4l modules too.

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Re: python and webcam

2006-02-12 Thread dfaber
Hi again,
 I've tried a the Sane interface from PIL and I get the following
error, when I run the demo_pil.py from the Sane directory.

SANE version: (16777231, 1, 0, 15)
Available devices= [('v4l:/dev/video0', 'Noname', 'Logitech QuickCam
Pro 3000', 'virtual device')]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /PyWebcam/demo_pil.py, line 17, in ?
s.br_x=320. ; s.br_y=240.
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sane.py, line 150, in
__setattr__
raise AttributeError, 'Inactive option: '+key
AttributeError: Inactive option: br_x


Next, I looked at v4l support for python with absolutely no
documentation. I tried to build the modules and I get the following
error:

 python setup.py build
running build
running build_ext
building 'v4l' extension
gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -g -pipe
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=pentium4
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -D_GN U_SOURCE -fPIC -fPIC
-I/usr/include/python2.4 -c v4l.c -o build/temp.linux-i686- 2.4/v4l.o
v4l.c: In function 'v4l_getImage':
v4l.c:890: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
v4l.c: In function 'initv4l':
v4l.c:1585: error: 'VIDEO_AUDIO_BALANCE' undeclared (first use in
this function)
v4l.c:1585: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
v4l.c:1585: error: for each function it appears in.)
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1


I also looked at libfg http://antonym.org/libfg and I get the following
errors again:
---
python setup.py build
running build
running build_ext
building 'fg' extension
gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/fgmodule.o -L. -lfg -o
build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/fg.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfg
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1

I google-ed extensively have so far found only these three packages.
Any ideas why I get these error messages?

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