Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
Dear Group,

It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
make me a bit confused.

Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

Let me guess, is it a declaration of two-dimension array?

Thanks a lot for help and all the best,
Przemek M. Zawada
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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
On 2 Cze, 19:56, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Group,

  It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
  python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
  make me a bit confused.

  Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
  ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

 I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
 braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
 so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
 [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
 shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
 is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
 second index is not provided, it assumes the end
 of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
 and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
 has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
 items in the list from beginning to end and returns
 them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

 The reason someone would want to do this is
 because lists are mutable data structures. If you
 fire up your terminal you can try the following
 example:

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  b = a
  c = [:]
  b[0] = 5
  b
 [5,2,3,4]
  # here's the issue
  a
 [5,2,3,4]
  # and the resolution
  c

 [1,2,3,4]

 Hope this helps.

 Geremy Condra

Thank you for such fast answer! I quite catch, but:
As I see, the d[:] is equal to sentence get the d array from the
first to the last element? :)

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
On 2 Cze, 20:07, Matteo Landi landima...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway I suggest you to use a syntax like:

 b = list(a)

 in order to copy a list, it should be better than slicing.





 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Group,

  It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
  python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
  make me a bit confused.

  Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
  ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

  I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
  braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
  so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
  [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
  shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
  is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
  second index is not provided, it assumes the end
  of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
  and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
  has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
  items in the list from beginning to end and returns
  them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

  The reason someone would want to do this is
  because lists are mutable data structures. If you
  fire up your terminal you can try the following
  example:

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  b = a
  c = [:]
  b[0] = 5
  b
  [5,2,3,4]
  # here's the issue
  a
  [5,2,3,4]
  # and the resolution
  c
  [1,2,3,4]

  Hope this helps.

  Geremy Condra
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In fact, that ain't my syntax, I'd rather use C++ for that project,
because that's my world is not Python, but thank you anyway for help -
I see that Python also has many fans and friends online :) I'll try
help her using your explanations.

THANK you again and all the best,
Przemek M. Zawada

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