Re: 'import dl' on AMD64 platform

2007-02-19 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On Feb 19, 6:30 am, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  application from running on the Debian Etch AMD64 platform.
> > >  It seems that the 'dl' module is not available on that platform. The
> > >  only reason I need the 'dl' module, however, is for the values of
> > >  RTLD_LAZY etc, which I use with sys.setdlopenflags() in order to make
> > >  my imported SWIG module share its symbols correctly with more deeply-
> > >  nested plugin modiles in my C-code layer.
> >
> > >  I wonder if there is a workaround for this -- perhaps another way to
> > >  access the values of those RTLD flags?
> >
> > Read stuff out of /usr/include/bits/dlfcn.h ?
> >
> > It seems to be a constant 1 anyway
> >
> > #define RTLD_LAZY   0x1
> >
> > You could try compiling the dl module by hand.
> 
>  Well yes, and that's the workaround I came up with: for systems that
>  don't provide the 'dl' module, I just default to the values I found on
>  my linux (ubuntu) system. This is a nasty hack however.
> 
>  I wonder if anyone could say why the Debian people left out this
>  important module from their AMD64 platform?

There is a note (from a 2002) in the changelog about

  * Always build the dl module. Failure in case of
sizeof(int)!=sizeof(long)!=sizeof(void*)
is delayed until dl.open is called. Closes: #141681.

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=141681

so maybe it doesn't build properly on amd64.  That, or it violating
the free software guidelines (unlikely in this case) are the two major
reasons for missing features in debian.

The normal procedure would be to try the package from unstable.

If that doesn't work then report a bug.  (Easiest with the reportbug
package.)

I don't have an amd64 machine to try otherwise I'd try it for you!

I looked in the latest packages for python2.4 & python2.5 for amd64
and /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/dl.so doesn't appear to be there.

  
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=python2.5&version=unstable&arch=amd64&page=9&number=50

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Re: 'import dl' on AMD64 platform

2007-02-19 Thread John Pye
On Feb 19, 6:30 am, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  application from running on the Debian Etch AMD64 platform.
> >  It seems that the 'dl' module is not available on that platform. The
> >  only reason I need the 'dl' module, however, is for the values of
> >  RTLD_LAZY etc, which I use with sys.setdlopenflags() in order to make
> >  my imported SWIG module share its symbols correctly with more deeply-
> >  nested plugin modiles in my C-code layer.
>
> >  I wonder if there is a workaround for this -- perhaps another way to
> >  access the values of those RTLD flags?
>
> Read stuff out of /usr/include/bits/dlfcn.h ?
>
> It seems to be a constant 1 anyway
>
> #define RTLD_LAZY   0x1
>
> You could try compiling the dl module by hand.

Well yes, and that's the workaround I came up with: for systems that
don't provide the 'dl' module, I just default to the values I found on
my linux (ubuntu) system. This is a nasty hack however.

I wonder if anyone could say why the Debian people left out this
important module from their AMD64 platform?

Cheers
JP

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Re: 'import dl' on AMD64 platform

2007-02-18 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
John Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I have a tricky situation that's preventing my Python/SWIG/C
>  application from running on the Debian Etch AMD64 platform.
> 
>  It seems that the 'dl' module is not available on that platform. The
>  only reason I need the 'dl' module, however, is for the values of
>  RTLD_LAZY etc, which I use with sys.setdlopenflags() in order to make
>  my imported SWIG module share its symbols correctly with more deeply-
>  nested plugin modiles in my C-code layer.
> 
>  I wonder if there is a workaround for this -- perhaps another way to
>  access the values of those RTLD flags?

Read stuff out of /usr/include/bits/dlfcn.h ?

It seems to be a constant 1 anyway

#define RTLD_LAZY   0x1

You could try compiling the dl module by hand.

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'import dl' on AMD64 platform

2007-02-17 Thread John Pye
Hi all

I have a tricky situation that's preventing my Python/SWIG/C
application from running on the Debian Etch AMD64 platform.

It seems that the 'dl' module is not available on that platform. The
only reason I need the 'dl' module, however, is for the values of
RTLD_LAZY etc, which I use with sys.setdlopenflags() in order to make
my imported SWIG module share its symbols correctly with more deeply-
nested plugin modiles in my C-code layer.

I wonder if there is a workaround for this -- perhaps another way to
access the values of those RTLD flags?

Cheers
JP

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