[OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
imcs ee wrote: On 13 Jun 2006 15:09:57 -0700, Serge Orlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Reinhart wrote: My spam folder at gmail is not growing anymore for many months (it is about 600-700 spams a month). Have spammers given up spamming gmail.com only or is it global trend? Gmail said messages that have been in Spam more than 30 days will be automatically deleted so may be the speed of spam comes in counterbalanced to the speed spam goes out? Yes, it is. My point was monthly amount is not increasing for me. But I guess if you publish your email everywhere it is increasing: http://egofood.blogspot.com/2006/06/well-spam-is-officially-annoying.html 20,000 a month. Wow. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
On 13 Jun 2006 15:09:57 -0700, Serge Orlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Reinhart wrote: My spam folder at gmail is not growing anymore for many months (it is about 600-700 spams a month). Have spammers given up spamming gmail.com only or is it global trend? Gmail said messages that have been in Spam more than 30 days will be automatically deleted so may be the speed of spam comes in counterbalanced to the speed spam goes out? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
Alex Reinhart wrote: Being deluged by spam like nearly all of us (though fortunately I have a very good spam filter), I also hate spam as much as almost everybody. I know basic Python (enough to make a simple IRC bot) and I figured a good project to help learn Python would be to make a simple proxypot. I've done some research and found one already existing, written in Perl (http://www.proxypot.org/). However, I prefer the syntax and ease of Python (and Proxypot is no longer maintained, as far as I can see), so I decided to write my own. I have just one question: Is running Python's built-in smtpd, pretending to accept and forward all messages, enough to get me noticed by a spammer, or do I have to do something else to advertise my script as an open proxy? I'm hoping to make this proxy script distributed, in that several honeypots are run on different servers, and the results are then collected on a central server that provides statistics and a listing of all spammers caught. So, just out of curiosity, I'd like to know how many people would actually be willing to run a honeypot on their server, and how many are opposed to the idea (just so I know if the concept is even valid). IMHO it's pretty useless, spammers are starting to use botnets, and the more you make inconvenient to them use open proxies, the more of them will move to closed botnets. My spam folder at gmail is not growing anymore for many months (it is about 600-700 spams a month). Have spammers given up spamming gmail.com only or is it global trend? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
Serge Orlov wrote: IMHO it's pretty useless, spammers are starting to use botnets, and the more you make inconvenient to them use open proxies, the more of them will move to closed botnets. As long as I inconvenience them, or at least catch one or two, I'll be satisfied. My spam folder at gmail is not growing anymore for many months (it is about 600-700 spams a month). Have spammers given up spamming gmail.com only or is it global trend? I get several spam mails a day at gmail.com. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
Alex Reinhart wrote: Serge Orlov wrote: IMHO it's pretty useless, spammers are starting to use botnets, and the more you make inconvenient to them use open proxies, the more of them will move to closed botnets. As long as I inconvenience them, or at least catch one or two, I'll be satisfied. What makes you think that spammers won't discover you're blackholing their spam as soon as you start to make some impact on their business? They will just skip your proxypots and move to real open proxies. I think you'll make bigger impact if you implement proxy checking software http://dsbl.org/programs in Python, so it can run on windows too. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [OT] Re: Python open proxy honeypot
Serge Orlov wrote: Alex Reinhart wrote: Serge Orlov wrote: IMHO it's pretty useless, spammers are starting to use botnets, and the more you make inconvenient to them use open proxies, the more of them will move to closed botnets. As long as I inconvenience them, or at least catch one or two, I'll be satisfied. What makes you think that spammers won't discover you're blackholing their spam as soon as you start to make some impact on their business? They will just skip your proxypots and move to real open proxies. There are so many spammers and (hopefully) more than one proxypot, so a stream of less-than-coordinated spammers would probably be caught. The more coordinated, careful ones would probably avoid them quickly enough, but I'm sure there are plenty of stupid spammers. I think you'll make bigger impact if you implement proxy checking software http://dsbl.org/programs in Python, so it can run on windows too. That would be a good goal as well. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
