Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp
On 2024-05-29 at 11:39:14 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: > On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule [...] > Are the Rules 1--9 by Greenspun good too? I don't know; let me look it up. Oh, there it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule says that Greenspun said he "was just trying to give the rule a memorable name." Sadly, the citation link is failing for me right now. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp
On 2024-05-29, HenHanna wrote: > On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule > > > interesting!!! > > Are the Rules 1--9 by Greenspun good too? I don't think they exist; it's a joke. However, Greenspun's resume of accomplishments is a marvel and an inspiration, including many in Lisp. A few highlights: https://philip.greenspun.com/personal/resume "Helped architect, simulate and design prototype of HP's Precision Architecture RISC computer. The prototype took two man-years to complete and ran at VAX 11/780 speed in June 1983. This architecture became the basis of HP's computer product line for 15 years and then became the basis for the 64-bit generation of Intel processors." https://philip.greenspun.com/personal/resume-list "Automatic Layout tools for VLSI, with an emphasis on bus cells and automatic implementation of finite state machines (1984 for Symbolics)" "Design tools on Symbolics Lisp Machine for RISC CPU implemented in TTL (1982-3 for Hewlett Packard)" (in reference to the PA-RISC work). "ConSolve system for automating earthmoving, entirely implemented in Lisp (1986-1989 for ConSolve), including: * Delaunay Triangulation-based terrain model, with C0 and C1 surface models. * complete environment for earthworks and road design, including software to specify design surfaces, calculate costs of realizing design surfaces and automatic design tools * tree-structured database of zoning laws and automatic testing of design compliance * hydrology modelling to calculate drainage basins, streams and ridges * simulation of earthmoving vehicles * automated surveying using vehicles and location systems * radio interface to Caterpillar vehicle, including CRCC error detection * automatically generated user interface" -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @kazina...@mstdn.ca -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp
On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote: On 2024-05-27 at 12:37:01 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) On 12/16/2023, c...@clsnet.nl wrote: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of common-lisp The good news is, it's not Lisp that sucks, but Common Lisp. --- Paul Graham Just to set the record straight; This is not My line. I quoted it but don't know who the originator of that remark is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule interesting!!! Are the Rules 1--9 by Greenspun good too? does Greenspun pun ? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp
On 2024-05-27 at 12:37:01 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: > > On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: > > Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , > > wrote this mindboggling stuff: > > (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > > > > > On 12/16/2023, c...@clsnet.nl wrote: > > > > > > > Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill > > > > defined barely usable re-implementation of half of common-lisp > > > > > > The good news is, it's not Lisp that sucks, but Common Lisp. > > > --- Paul Graham > > > > Just to set the record straight; > > This is not My line. > > I quoted it but don't know who the originator of that remark is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp
On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) On 12/16/2023, c...@clsnet.nl wrote: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of common-lisp The good news is, it's not Lisp that sucks, but Common Lisp. --- Paul Graham Just to set the record straight; This is not My line. I quoted it but don't know who the originator of that remark is. Cor a few years ago... when i started learning Python... it was so exciting... Every day i thought... --- THis is Lisp in a thin-disguise ... SO Everyone gets it now. Everyone is a Lisper now. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list