Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alvin A. Delagon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . A little bit OT, I too have been programming python without a debugger, I got used to php's lack of debugger. Thanks again guys! ?! With NuSphere, Gubed, Komodo, DBG, APD, PhpED, Zend Studio, ..., in what sense does PHP lack a debugger? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alvin A. Delagon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the recommendations! I took a look on wingide2.0 on my linux box and it seems pretty good and has a lot of nifty features (which is pretty daunting to use since I've been programming with no IDE at all) and it debugger work pretty well but for a price tag of $179 I think it not worth it. I've tried various IDEs and like WingIDE by far the best. It is easy to use, robust and has great support. The improved productivity is well worth the price (especially if your work is buying it for you). I qualified for a free license, but would certainly have had my job pay for it otherwise. I was tempted to buy it anyway, but felt it would be unethical to my employer. -- Russell -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Any wing2.0 users here?
emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Alvin A. Delagon wrote: emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ There's a few IDEs with a ~ $30 license and ~ $300 licenses: black adder, TruStudio, which I don't know anything about. I like Komodo, it works well on perl and python (the ruby debugger setup has speed issues, but otherwise works well for ruby too), colorizes C, SQL and HTML source pretty well, and the $30 license really isn't missing much from the $300 license. And you shd look at jedit, eclipse, and textmate, since they're out there. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Alvin A. Delagon wrote: emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ There was a thread about Python IDEs lately with reviews of many of available Python IDE options, so check it out for more details (Wingide is a beautiful application December 17, 2005). I personally currently encourage everyone to use SPE as you can adjust it to your own needs and can let others profit from the work you have done to improve it. Wing is interesting only in its professional version beeing quite expensive compared to what you gain with it, but if you can get it 'for free' I would recommend to use it in parallel to your emacs for the Python specific features like go to definition (with automated reloading of file on changes made in the other editor) as long as you are in process of using the available source code to adapt it to your specific needs. Claudio -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Alvin A. Delagon wrote: emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ I like WingIDE best on Windows. You can try Wing: They offer a 30 day eval version. HTH Franz GEIGER -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
I think it's one of the best myself. I littel laggy on windows but you get use to it. Just my .02 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Alvin A. Delagon napisał(a): emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ Never used any IDE for a long time with Python, as any of them lacked the thing I would be willing to spend $$$ for. I couldn't go for Java without Eclipse's debugger, but I am happy to write Python code without debugger. Strange, isn't? -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Jarek Zgoda wrote: Alvin A. Delagon napisał(a): emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for better python IDE's are welcome! Thanks in advance! ^_^ Never used any IDE for a long time with Python, as any of them lacked the thing I would be willing to spend $$$ for. I couldn't go for Java without Eclipse's debugger, but I am happy to write Python code without debugger. Strange, isn't? Not strange for me. To be honest, the more experience I have, the less I can understand what a debugger is for. Can't even remember when used one last time. This is valid also for programming in C/C++ or Java, so in my eyes the Debugger? No, Thanks! is not limited only to Python or other script programming languages. Any professional programmer here who were really missing something very important when forced to program without a sofisticated debugger? If yes, could it be, that they program hardware driver or operating system kernels? Claudio -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Claudio Grondi napisał(a): To be honest, the more experience I have, the less I can understand what a debugger is for. Can't even remember when used one last time. This is valid also for programming in C/C++ or Java, so in my eyes the Debugger? No, Thanks! is not limited only to Python or other script programming languages. Any professional programmer here who were really missing something very important when forced to program without a sofisticated debugger? If yes, could it be, that they program hardware driver or operating system kernels? Nonono, interactive debuggers are very nice and helpful in most of cases, such as in Java or C programs. I just didn't found any use for interactive debugger with Python, so IDE's offer of interactive debugger is no-op for me. Anyway, I like Komodo and PyDev, only because they have nice project management features (also available at no cost in jEdit and Kate). I think, most of commercially available IDE's have something like that. -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Thanks for all the recommendations! I took a look on wingide2.0 on my linux box and it seems pretty good and has a lot of nifty features (which is pretty daunting to use since I've been programming with no IDE at all) and it debugger work pretty well but for a price tag of $179 I think it not worth it. Thanks for recommending me PyDev and TruStudio, I've been trying to get my hands on eclipse for a long time! ^_^ A little bit OT, I too have been programming python without a debugger, I got used to php's lack of debugger. Thanks again guys! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Any wing2.0 users here?
Here's a recent post of wingide: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/6be6a0a0fdbfa616/a63f11b8f63519f2?lnk=stq=wingide+is+a+beautifulrnum=1#a63f11b8f63519f2 I would strongly recomend it. Works great. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
