Re: Application Generators
Steve Hannah wrote: I know that this is an older thread, but I came across it on Nabble.com. Just wanted add some updated info on Walter's observations about Dataface (http://fas.sfu.ca/dataface) . It is much further along in development now and it does support authentication now. Thanks, for the particular project that I was working on, I went with AppGeni, and added my own authentication. I do have other projects in mind. Dataface seems almost like a free version of codecharge. One thing I don't much like about codecharge, is that it's windows only. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Application Generators
I know that this is an older thread, but I came across it on Nabble.com. Just wanted add some updated info on Walter's observations about Dataface (http://fas.sfu.ca/dataface) . It is much further along in development now and it does support authentication now. Just wanted to follow this up in case people come across this post. Best regards Steve Hannah walterbyrd-2 wrote: In case anybody is interested, here is an update on my reviews for code generators: AppGini PHPMagic. ($35 - $70) Cheap and easy to use, but not very functional. Okay if you are making flat-file, unsecure, CRUD. No authentication. No real relational functionallity. No event triggers. PHPRunner. ($199). Some authentication, but only one level. Some relational capabilities, not great. Event triggers. Fairly easy to use, but if you want to relate two or more tables, you have to hand code the sql, which sort of defeats the purpose. dbQwikSite ($140 - $200). Slow and diffecult to work with. In fact, I couldn't get it to work at all. dataface (free). Interesting new project. Huge potential. But, not really completed yet. Relational capabilities, and has event triggers. No authentication yet. Not easy to work with. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Application-Generators-tf1380271.html#a5441842 Sent from the Python - python-list forum at Nabble.com. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Application Generators
Hi walterbyrd, I had also gone through this search earlier, but unfortunately the app generators generate a lot of code, and more imp is that inspite of this, they are not very close to what you really need. I had been evaluating these from time to time. Appgini is good but mostly from an academic view point, you can better learn from its mechanism. Secondly, the kind of app you have in mind, is better hand coded. I recently came accross a similar project, which was eventually done by handcoding. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Application Generators
In case anybody is interested, here is an update on my reviews for code generators: AppGini PHPMagic. ($35 - $70) Cheap and easy to use, but not very functional. Okay if you are making flat-file, unsecure, CRUD. No authentication. No real relational functionallity. No event triggers. PHPRunner. ($199). Some authentication, but only one level. Some relational capabilities, not great. Event triggers. Fairly easy to use, but if you want to relate two or more tables, you have to hand code the sql, which sort of defeats the purpose. dbQwikSite ($140 - $200). Slow and diffecult to work with. In fact, I couldn't get it to work at all. dataface (free). Interesting new project. Huge potential. But, not really completed yet. Relational capabilities, and has event triggers. No authentication yet. Not easy to work with. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Application Generators
Have you taken a look at CodeChargeStdio (http://www.yessoftware.com)? This will handle what you are looking to do and then some. Might be a bit pricey, but it is worth a look. Cheers. Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Application Generators
Thanks. It does look good. The personal editon costs less than phprunner. And it seems much more powerful than PHPRunner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Application Generators
I would like to put together a very simple inventory program. When I ship an item, and edit the quantity; I would like the quantity _on_hand to auto-decrement, and the quantity_to_reorder to auto-increment. Also, when the data is displayed in a table format, I would like to be able to edit the quantity field as I would in a spreadsheet, just edit that field, without having to change to an edit-record screen. I thought the easiest way to do this would be to use a PHP code generator. But I'm not having any luck. Maybe I give up and code by hand? Or maybe I should use django? It seems that application generators never do exactly what you want, and even if they do, what about future development? I am looking for something that will make it easy to put together this simple project, and be flexible enough that I can easily modify the project. This application is supposed to run on hosted server, so that is also a concern. The present host doesn't even have python, but I could move the site to a new host, which has cgi python. I have an open mind. If anybody can suggest anything, I will take a look. Application generators that I have tried: dbQwikSite: I found it difficult to get it to work, and very slow. I had to uninstall Xampp, and install AppServ just to get it to work at all. I don't know why, maybe Xampp's versions of php/mysql were too new? I still can not get it to generate php code that I can use. AppGini: works as advertised, easy to use, inexpensive, and fast. But, frankly, it doesn't do much. As far as I could see, it doesn't even offer the basic security of a login. It just displays data, and allows you to add/delete records. I don't even think you can interactively edit records. Not much reporting capability. PHP-Runner: the best so far. Fast, easy, nice looking display, has basic security, allows editing records. Still does not seem to have the basic functionallity I'm looking for. Other app generators that I have looked at, but not tried: PHP-Peanuts PHPMaker phpmysql DaDaBik WizzyWeb Navicat Again, glad to read any opinions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
