Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
On 12 Jul 2005 08:28:45 -0700 Devan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ here's some context: I've been playing with a function that creates an anonymous function by compiling a string parameter, and it seems to work pretty well: def fn( text): exec 'def foo' + text.strip() return foo This can be used like: def foo( x): print x( 2, 5) foo( fn( ''' ( x, y): print 'x^2 + y^2 = ', x*x + y*y return y ''')) - which outputs: x^2 + y^2 = 29 5 ] How is this different from a nested function? It's different because it is defined in an expression, not by a statement. So you can create a new function inside a function call, for example. Like I said in the original post, it's a way of overcoming the limitations of python's lambda. The simple version I posted fails to lookup things in the caller's context, which one can easily fix by passing locals() as an extra parameter. Hopefully it'll be possible to grab the caller's locals() automatically using traceback or similar. Here's a version I've been using for a while which seems to work pretty well: def fn( text, globals_={}, locals_={}): ''' Returns an anonymous function created by calling exec on text. text should be a function definition, ommiting the initial `def fnname' (actually, leading `def' can be retained, for clarity). Any leading/trailing white space is removed using str.strip(). Leading white space on all lines will be handled automatically by exec, so you can use an indented python triple-quoted string. In addition, newlines and backslashes are re-escaped inside single/double-quoted strings. this enables nested use of fn(). example usage: fn( def ( target, state): if target != 'foo':return None return [], None, 'touch foo' , globals(), locals()) Would be nice to grab our caller's globals() and locals() if globals_/locals_ are None, using some sort of introspection. For now, you'll have to pass globals() and locals() explicitly. ''' text = text.strip() if text.startswith( 'def'): text = text[ 3:].strip() if not text.startswith( '('): raise Exception( 'fn string must start with `(\'') def _escape_quotes( text): ''' escape newlines and backslashes that are inside single/double-quoted strings. should probably do something about backslashes inside triple-quoted strings, but we don't bother for now. ''' quote = None ret = '' for c in text: if quote: if c=='\n': ret += '\\n' elif c=='\\': ret += '' else: if c==quote: quote = None ret += c else: if c=='\'' or c=='': quote = c ret += c return ret text = _escape_quotes( text) #print 'execing:', text # the exec will put the fn in the locals_ dict. we return it after # removing it from this dict. exec 'def _yabs_fn_temp' + text in globals_, locals_ ret = locals_['_yabs_fn_temp'] del locals_['_yabs_fn_temp'] return ret - Julian -- http://www.op59.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Creating anonymous functions using eval
I've been playing with a function that creates an anonymous function by compiling a string parameter, and it seems to work pretty well: def fn( text): exec 'def foo' + text.strip() return foo This can be used like: def foo( x): print x( 2, 5) foo( fn( ''' ( x, y): print 'x^2 + y^2 = ', x*x + y*y return y ''')) - which outputs: x^2 + y^2 = 29 5 You can also mimic conventional function definitions: f = fn( ''' ( x, y): print 'x, y=', x, y print 1.0*x/y return y ''') print 'calling f' f( 5, 6) This outputs: calling f x, y= 5 6 0.8333 You do things like allow/require an initial `def' for clarity, check that all the lines of text are indented so that nothing is executed when the anonymous function is created, etc etc. Obvious disadvantages are that the function text may have to escape quotes, and will not be showed with syntax colouring in editors. Apart from that, it seems quite a useful way of overcoming the limitations of python's lambda. But... I haven't seen this technique mentioned anywhere, so does anyone know of any problems that I should be wary of? - Julian -- http://www.op59.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
How is this different from a nested function? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:28:45 -0700, Devan L wrote: How is this different from a nested function? Well, this is a newsgroup posting written by you. Nested functions in Python are callable objects that exist as attributes of other callable objects, so the two are very different. Alternatively, if you expect a sensible answer, how about asking a sensible question? You can start by telling us just what it is that you are comparing to nested functions. -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
Well, the string that gets passed is more or less a function definition, which is then called with exec. I don't see why you'd need to write a string out with the function definition and then call it. You could just write the function. As for the nested functions, I had been presuming that it was intended to use as a better function than lambda within a function. Sorry for the confusion. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
Devan L wrote: Well, the string that gets passed is more or less a function definition, which is then called with exec. I don't see why you'd need to write a string out with the function definition and then call it. You could just write the function. As for the nested functions, I had been presuming that it was intended to use as a better function than lambda within a function. Sorry for the confusion. You missed Steven's point which is to quote the message to which you are replying. Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form, so you need to provide some context for them to be able to follow along. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. -- Richard Harter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
You missed Steven's point which is to quote the message to which you are replying. Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form, so you need to provide some context for them to be able to follow along. Ah, sorry, I didn't quite get what he was referring to. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
Robert Kern wrote: Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form Why not? Just about every modern newsgroup reader and e-mail app has a threaded view option. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
Joseph Garvin wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form Why not? Just about every modern newsgroup reader and e-mail app has a threaded view option. My newsreader supports threading, but the first message I see in this thread is from Devan L. I didn't notice the Re: and assumed his post was half in the subject line and half in the body. Sometimes I only download the 100 most recent posts, so I don't see the original (or referred-to) post. Other times the threading doesn't work properly, splitting conversations or using the wrong level of indentation. Also, this is both a newsgroup and a mailing list, and that has adverse effects on threading as well. So, please quote. =) Dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
Joseph Garvin wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form Why not? Just about every modern newsgroup reader and e-mail app has a threaded view option. Good point. Allow me to modify my statement: not all newsreaders/email apps thread python-list/c.l.py conversations properly. The gateway often messes things up. It's also a royal pain in the butt to have to go read another message just to dereference anaphora, threading or no. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the fields of hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. -- Richard Harter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Creating anonymous functions using eval
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:17:46 -0600, Joseph Garvin wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Not everyone is reading this list in a conveniently threaded form Why not? Just about every modern newsgroup reader and e-mail app has a threaded view option. Technology as a substitute for manners is it? I have a modern newsgroup reader. I don't like threaded views, but even if I did, that's not the point. News servers sometimes drop posts, or the posts expire. Sometimes news readers lose posts (that just happened to me yesterday). Sometimes threading breaks. Quoting enough of the previous post to establish context is the only sensible behaviour in the face of all these potential problems. But even that is not the point. It is rude for people to assume that their post is so vitally important to me that I'll drop what I'm doing to hunt back through past posts searching for context. Even if that search is back one post in the thread, that's still one post too many. In the face of that breach of manners, people may choose to respond in many ways. Some might choose to reward the rudeness by searching previous posts, then responding with an answer to the question. Some might choose to just ignore the post, which has the disadvantage of leaving the original poster no wiser and likely to repeat his behaviour. Some might flame them, which is usually counterproductive. And some might drop some fairly heavy hints, but that assumes the poster is capable of getting a clue. -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list