Database of non standard library modules...

[Jon Hewer]

Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?

Quite often people who email this list are after a module to do a certain task.

If it doesn't exist I think that an online database, to which people
could add details of modules, and which people could search, would be
an extremely valuable resource.

Just wondering if anyone could tell me if something like this exists
(probably does), and if not, I'll get to work :)

Cheers
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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Robert Kern]

Jon Hewer wrote:
> Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?

http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Steve Holden]

Robert Kern wrote:
> Jon Hewer wrote:
> 
>>Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
> 
> 
> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
> 
While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to say 
I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I ask 
someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the cheese 
shop, I might look for another language.

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Thomas Heller]

Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Robert Kern wrote:
>> Jon Hewer wrote:
>>
>>>Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
>> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>>
> While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to
> say I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I
> ask someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the
> cheese shop, I might look for another language.

+1

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Alessandro Bottoni]

Robert Kern wrote:

> Jon Hewer wrote:
>> Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
> 
> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
> 

Actually, there are many other Python source code and apps repositories.
Here a few links, just in case you was not aware of them:

http://mu.arete.cc/pcr/
http://www.vex.net/parnassus/
http://pythonical.sourceforge.net/
http://www.strout.net/python/intro.html 

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Richie Hindle]

[Steve]
> While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to
> say I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I
> ask someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the
> cheese shop, I might look for another language.

+1

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[A.M. Kuchling]

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:33:16 +0100, 
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to say 
> I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I ask 
> someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the cheese 
> shop, I might look for another language.

Point them at the Python Package Index: ,
which is just proxying for cheeseshop.python.org.

Many names were brought up (I think all this discussion was on the catalog
SIG), but none of them was widely liked.  So Richard Jones, the maintainer,
got to choose.

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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Jeff Schwab]

Steve Holden wrote:
> Robert Kern wrote:
> 
>> Jon Hewer wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>>
> While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to say 
> I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I ask 
> someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the cheese 
> shop, I might look for another language.

I think it's just meant to be a handy moniker.  An acronym like CPAN 
doesn't exactly clear everything up in one shot, either, but at least 
other Perl users know what you mean when you say it.
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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Nigel Rowe]

Steve Holden wrote:

> Robert Kern wrote:
>> Jon Hewer wrote:
>> 
>>>Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
>> 
>> 
>> http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>> 
> While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to say
> I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I ask
> someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the cheese
> shop, I might look for another language.
> 
> regards
>   Steve

To be fair, it's really the "Python Package Index", it just happens to be
stored on a machine called cheeseshop.


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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Steve Holden]

Nigel Rowe wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
> 
> 
>>Robert Kern wrote:
>>
>>>Jon Hewer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is there an online database of non standard library modules for Python?
>>>
>>>
>>>http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>>>
>>
>>While cheeseshop might resonate with the Monty Python fans I have to say
>>I think the name sucks in terms of explaining what to expect. If I ask
>>someone where I can find a piece of code and the direct me to the cheese
>>shop, I might look for another language.
>>
>>regards
>>  Steve
> 
> 
> To be fair, it's really the "Python Package Index", it just happens to be
> stored on a machine called cheeseshop.
> 
> 
You are being more that fair! The page in question reads:

"""
Cheese Shop: Home

The Python Cheese Shop is a repository of software for the Python 
programming language.

Customer: Now then, some cheese please, my good man.
Owner: (lustily) Certainly, sir. What would you like?
Customer: Well, eh, how about a little red Leicester.
Owner: I'm, a-fraid we're fresh out of red Leicester, sir.

There are currently 874 packages in the Cheese Shop. You may:

 * Search
 * Browse the tree of packages
 * View a flat list of all packages
 * Submit package information (note that you must register to submit)
"""

followed by a list of 20 recent additions. This is simply inane web 
design, and is a significant reason why Python isn't always taken 
seriously. The words "Python Package Index" don't appear anywhere in the 
body text. The relevant nav bar section is headed "Cheese Shop Actions", 
which is more or less guaranteed to confuse many people whose first 
language isn't English, and many (not in the know about Monty Python) 
whose first language *is* English.

Contras with www.cpan.org, which starts:

"""
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network
2005-08-20 online since 1995-10-26
2957 MB 263 mirrors
4541 authors 8522 modules

Welcome to CPAN! Here you will find All Things Perl.
"""

followed by a really good, and not overcrowded, set of links that make 
it quite clear how to find various important features of the site. No 
in-jokes, no distractions, just what the reader wants.

User perceptions are altered in negative ways by stuff like the cheese 
shop, and while I firmly believe there's a place for humour in life, I 
don't believe it should get in the way of progress towards total world 
domination :-)

regards
  Steve
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Re: Database of non standard library modules...

[Terry Reedy]

"Steve Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi
>> To be fair, it's really the "Python Package Index", it just happens to 
>> be
>> stored on a machine called cheeseshop.
>>
>>
> You are being more that fair! The page in question reads:
>
> """
> Cheese Shop: Home
>
> The Python Cheese Shop is a repository of software for the Python
> programming language.
>
> Customer: Now then, some cheese please, my good man.
> Owner: (lustily) Certainly, sir. What would you like?
> Customer: Well, eh, how about a little red Leicester.
> Owner: I'm, a-fraid we're fresh out of red Leicester, sir.
>
> There are currently 874 packages in the Cheese Shop. You may:
>
> * Search
> * Browse the tree of packages
> * View a flat list of all packages
> * Submit package information (note that you must register to submit)
> """
>
> followed by a list of 20 recent additions. This is simply inane web
> design, and is a significant reason why Python isn't always taken
> seriously. The words "Python Package Index" don't appear anywhere in the
> body text. The relevant nav bar section is headed "Cheese Shop Actions",
> which is more or less guaranteed to confuse many people whose first
> language isn't English, and many (not in the know about Monty Python)
> whose first language *is* English.

You are right.  This wacko intro has been added since I last looked.  Truly 
bizarre. 



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