Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On Jan 15, 3:43 pm, Michael Hunter tahoe...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are probably coming at this from the wrong direction. Either you want to solve your family tree problem in the easiest way possible in which case there are already packages available or you want to develop this because you want to do the project to learn (more) python, etc. Assuming the later the fact you have to ask the question in the way you did means you are short on software design experience and don't know much about the problem domain (genealogy). Additionally you probably havn't written much code although you came here so you probably have a little experience. That is triple death. You need to hold a couple of those variables stable. I'd suggest finding a existing open source genealogy program and use bug fixing as a way to learn basics about the package and then try to add a feature as a way of learning something about software design. While i mostly agree with this statement i must also whole-heart-ly disagree. I have many projects that i am currently developing that are far beyond my skill set at this time. However this lack of experience within the problem domain does not scare me away. Actually i want to learn how many things work under the hood. So what i do is develop and design until i hit a wall. Then i move over to another project and develop and design until i hit another wall. Sometimes i have to go back and re-write the hole thing, but hey, its part of the learning curve. And in the process something interesting always happens... I find that solving one problem lends knowledge and insight into another completely different problem. This technique may not be for the weak of heart but it works well for me. I like a challenge. I also like to learn. So this drives me to keep going. I can tell you that i have written code i previously thought was impossible for me to create. Nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough or if you can manage to live long enough! :). Sadly even if your thirst for knowledge is unquenchable, your life will be quenched in due time :(. But i do not want to image a world where we all live forever, what a nightmare! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On 2011-01-14, Ata Jafari a.j.romani...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Not really. It's more like a combination of a directed graph and a relational database. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. You do know there is already a family-tree-maker program written in Python, right? http://gramps-project.org/ Your time might be better spent working on Gramps... -- Grant -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Jon Clements jon...@googlemail.com wrote: Otherwise, you're in for a struggle, as you need to choose a storage back-end, a GUI (wxWindows/GTK/Qt4 etc...), how to handle GEDCOM format (unless it's not going to be compatible with other software), does it need to produce web pages/reports (and in what formats). There are a couple of Python gedcom parsers around: http://ilab.cs.byu.edu/cs460/code/gedcom/gedcom.py https://github.com/dijxtra/simplepyged Katie -- CoderStack http://www.coderstack.co.uk/python-jobs The Software Developer Job Board -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Ata Jafari a.j.romani...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. Thanks. I think you are probably coming at this from the wrong direction. Either you want to solve your family tree problem in the easiest way possible in which case there are already packages available or you want to develop this because you want to do the project to learn (more) python, etc. Assuming the later the fact you have to ask the question in the way you did means you are short on software design experience and don't know much about the problem domain (genealogy). Additionally you probably havn't written much code although you came here so you probably have a little experience. That is triple death. You need to hold a couple of those variables stable. I'd suggest finding a existing open source genealogy program and use bug fixing as a way to learn basics about the package and then try to add a feature as a way of learning something about software design. Michael -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
People here guided me to GRAMPS, an open-source software project. Yes, I'm new, and Python is my first programming language. My software should not be only a tree-like one. There are 254 people in this family tree. I'm trying to find another method. But I think it is better to start with contributing to GRAMPS first. Thanks. Ata -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Developing a program to make a family tree.
Hi there. I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. Thanks. -- Ata J. Tabrizi atae.tabr...@metu.edu.tr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On Jan 14, 7:39 pm, Ata Jafari a.j.romani...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. Thanks. -- Ata J. Tabrizi atae.tabr...@metu.edu.tr If you're after mature and actively developed Genealogy software developed in Python, then check out http://gramps-project.org/ The developer list is very friendly. Otherwise, you're in for a struggle, as you need to choose a storage back-end, a GUI (wxWindows/GTK/Qt4 etc...), how to handle GEDCOM format (unless it's not going to be compatible with other software), does it need to produce web pages/reports (and in what formats). I strongly suggest looking at GRAMPS and see what you're setting yourself up for :) hth Jon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
try http://gramps-project.org/, which is created in python.. :) On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Ata Jafari a.j.romani...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. Thanks. -- Ata J. Tabrizi atae.tabr...@metu.edu.tr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
- Original message - Hi there. I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. Thanks. Family trees are nothing like trees, actually. If you start with that assumption, your software will sadly not be usable by many people. -- regards, kushal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Developing a program to make a family tree.
On 2011-01-14, Ata Jafari a.j.romani...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to develop a program like family tree maker. I have all information, so there is no need to search on the net. This must be something like trees. Can someone help me? I'm at the beginning. I don't know anything specific about family tree software and you don't really specify what you want your software to do. I can only assume that you are interested in taking the data in some format which contains the links between family members and creating a tree representation of that data? If I was going to attempt something like this, I would probably generate the representation as a set of postscript instructions. I would start with a basic template for a union which could be essentially pasted into different places in the output page. Then generating your tree is a simple matter of laying out the templates to match your data, filling in the template fields for each persion within their union, and drawing the connecting lines of the tree. Since I was already generating postscript anyway, I would probably implement much of the actual logic in postscript (the built in stacks provide an exellent way to process tree like structures in all of their nested levels). I would Python provide any user interface for manipulating the data and to dump the data into the postscript program. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
