Re: Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-06 Thread Scott David Daniels
Bengt Richter wrote:
If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)
Mexico has already designed the flag for that, I think.
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Re: Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-06 Thread Simon Brunning
On Apr 6, 2005 5:25 AM, Mike Rovner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sun abandoned dynamic approach (Tcl) in favor of Java.

Sun appear to be very interested in dynamic languages these days:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/12/08/DynamicJava

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Re: Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-06 Thread Ola Natvig
Bengt Richter wrote:
If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)
Regards,
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I can't wait...
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Re: Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-06 Thread Bengt Richter
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:34:25 -0400, Thomas Gagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Cameron Laird wrote:
>
>> 
>> And now, for something completely different, I'll tender a
>> personal view:  I think Mr. Gates and Python are actually
>> destined to get along uncharacteristically well.  Roughly, I
>> suspect the habits and motivations of the two are so skew,
>> that the usual "embrace and extend" simply won't obtain.  I
>> soberly expect IronPython to work out well for both Microsoft
>> and Python.
>
>The techweb.com article said something interesting.
>
>> "Python is an open-source dynamic language; dynamic languages enable 
>> developers to produce applications more efficiently by reducing the amount 
>> of complexity in the code they write," Jason Matusow, program manager of 
>> Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative, writes on his blog. "Microsoft's 
>> IronPython project demonstrates the benefits of putting the Python dynamic 
>> language on the .NET Common Language Runtime."
>
>Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages 
>that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic 
>languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part.  While Sun and 
>Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you 
>think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language development?

If there is to be an MSPython, how long 'til Mozilla FirePython? ;-)

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Re: Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-05 Thread Mike Rovner
Thomas Gagne wrote:
Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages 
that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic 
languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part.  While Sun and 
Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you 
think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language 
development?
Sun abandoned dynamic approach (Tcl) in favor of Java.
MS using dynamic for a long long time (recall prolog in NT loader).
So it's new step with .NET and prove that Python (as well as VBscript) 
will work well on it in is in best MS (read commercial) interests.

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Does IronPython indicate MS interest in dynamic languages?

2005-04-05 Thread Thomas Gagne
Cameron Laird wrote:

And now, for something completely different, I'll tender a
personal view:  I think Mr. Gates and Python are actually
destined to get along uncharacteristically well.  Roughly, I
suspect the habits and motivations of the two are so skew,
that the usual "embrace and extend" simply won't obtain.  I
soberly expect IronPython to work out well for both Microsoft
and Python.
The techweb.com article said something interesting.
"Python is an open-source dynamic language; dynamic languages enable developers to produce applications more efficiently by reducing the amount of complexity in the code they write," Jason Matusow, program manager of Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative, writes on his blog. "Microsoft's IronPython project demonstrates the benefits of putting the Python dynamic language on the .NET Common Language Runtime."
Assuming (I don't know for certain) that MS's PR approves all messages 
that leave the building, I'm wondering if this foray into dynamic 
languages doesn't signal something greater on MS' part.  While Sun and 
Java (and C# for the most part) have remained statically-typed, do you 
think IronPython might indicate a new direction for MS language development?
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