Re: Eclipse Plugins

2007-10-26 Thread cyberco
> PyDev is open source, and the developer is pretty responsive, so if you
> could describe what is missing there is a good chance it would get
> implemented. I even fixed two bugs myself, my first ever real Java
> contribution...
>
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I can second that. I'm a happy PyDev user myself for any Python module
that is more than 100 lines long. The nice things is that it has a lot
of the same keybindings as the Eclipse Java editor has (duplicating
lines/blocks, organising imports, indent/dedent, etc). In cases where
PyDev needs a patch the main developer is always there to help you
out.

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Re: Eclipse Plugins

2007-10-26 Thread Heikki Toivonen
Martin Marcher wrote:
> 2007/10/26, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> For my other languages, such as HTML, ColdFusion, JAVA etc I make good use
>> of the Eclipse SDK, and I'm looking for some advice on the best and most
>> popular python plug-ins available, what would you suggest? I downloaded one
>> called PyDev which looked ok but nothing too exciting.

I'm a very happy user of PyDev. The main reason I got PyDev was to get
automatic error reporting in the editor (it uses PyLint for this, you
need to install PyLint first). The debugger is also pretty good
(supports even multiple threads). Exceptions could perhaps be handled
better, and getting a shell in the debugger context is only available in
the commercial extension to PyDev I think.

Having come from (X)Emacs, perhaps my IDE needs are primitive. I've
tried to use some automatic refactoring tools but support that that is
pretty primitive for Python at the moment.

PyDev is open source, and the developer is pretty responsive, so if you
could describe what is missing there is a good chance it would get
implemented. I even fixed two bugs myself, my first ever real Java
contribution...

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Re: Eclipse Plugins

2007-10-26 Thread Martin Marcher
2007/10/26, Robert Rawlins - Think Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm not sure what you IDE you all generally use for your python development.
> I've been somewhat lazy and always used a plain text editor, however this
> technique is starting to take its toll, and it's purely been out of laziness
> not finding myself a decent IDE to develop in. So this morning task is to
> pull my thumb out of my arse and set something up properly.

With Eclipse 3.3 IIRC there is a "Dynamic Language IDE" Package
available. Out of the box, as far as a I know it only supports ruby. I
didn't look to much into it (out of the same reasons you named). Maybe
that could do something with a few tweaks or additional plugins.

> For my other languages, such as HTML, ColdFusion, JAVA etc I make good use
> of the Eclipse SDK, and I'm looking for some advice on the best and most
> popular python plug-ins available, what would you suggest? I downloaded one
> called PyDev which looked ok but nothing too exciting.

I just switched to using emacs. Still struggling with it but it has
some nice features

C-c C-h - to find the help of something
C-c C-c - to run the "buffer" (file) I'm currently editing

a few commands which are customizeable enough to run highlighted text
(where IIRC one can define stuff to pre setup an environment if for
example you need to run a method of a class)

and some other nifty stuff. Be aware the learning curve is quite high

(for the vim guys. I've been using vim before but for my use case
emacs provides just more stuff that "just works". vim may also be your
choice with a few tweaks it does a lot, and it does it fast)

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Eclipse Plugins

2007-10-26 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hello Chaps,

 

I'm not sure what you IDE you all generally use for your python development.
I've been somewhat lazy and always used a plain text editor, however this
technique is starting to take its toll, and it's purely been out of laziness
not finding myself a decent IDE to develop in. So this morning task is to
pull my thumb out of my arse and set something up properly.

 

For my other languages, such as HTML, ColdFusion, JAVA etc I make good use
of the Eclipse SDK, and I'm looking for some advice on the best and most
popular python plug-ins available, what would you suggest? I downloaded one
called PyDev which looked ok but nothing too exciting.

 

Thanks guys,

 

Rob

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Re: Programming Eclipse plugins in Jython?

2006-01-12 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Kenneth McDonald wrote:

>Is it easy or difficult to implement Eclipse plugins in Jython? And  
>if the former, are there any starter's guides you could recommend?
>
>The desire is an editor plugin for a syntactically very simple  
>proprietary language. I'd like to have paren checking, syntax  
>colorization and (to start with at least) a few other small features.  
>Unfortunately, there's quite a hump in learning the Eclipse API well  
>enough to do even simple things (or at least that's what my reading  
>seems to indicate), and I was wondering if I can cheat and use Jython  
>to simplify the process.
>
>Thanks,
>Ken
>  
>
Hi Kenneth,

Basically, you will NEED to understand the Eclipse API one way or the 
other, and jython will not really help you there... -- I know... been 
there :-)

But after you're able to grasp its concepts, you can probably use it 
without problems... Altough you'll have to extend the same java 
interfaces Eclipse provides anyway ;-)

Cheers,

Fabio


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Re: Programming Eclipse plugins in Jython?

2006-01-11 Thread Oscar
PyDev plugin  is excelent!
it's easy for me to debug python scripts,but the ECLIPSE needs more
memory to run .

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Programming Eclipse plugins in Jython?

2006-01-11 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Is it easy or difficult to implement Eclipse plugins in Jython? And  
if the former, are there any starter's guides you could recommend?

The desire is an editor plugin for a syntactically very simple  
proprietary language. I'd like to have paren checking, syntax  
colorization and (to start with at least) a few other small features.  
Unfortunately, there's quite a hump in learning the Eclipse API well  
enough to do even simple things (or at least that's what my reading  
seems to indicate), and I was wondering if I can cheat and use Jython  
to simplify the process.

Thanks,
Ken
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