Re: Fixing Python install on the Mac after running 'CleanMyMac' (fwd)

2015-09-26 Thread Ned Deily
In article ,
 kacyjo...@lclark.edu wrote:
> I was having this same problem, entered those commands and got this as a 
> response:
> 
> MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import 
> numpy;print(numpy.__file__)' 
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/num
> py/__init__.pyc
> MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ 
> MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import 
> sys;print(sys.version)' 
> 2.7.10 (default, Jul 14 2015, 19:46:27) 
> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 6.0 (clang-600.0.39)]
> 
> Any idea what that means for my system?

Since the original reply, Apple has updated the version of the OS X 
10.10.x system Python 2.7 to 2.7.10.  So that looks good.

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Re: Fixing Python install on the Mac after running 'CleanMyMac' (fwd)

2015-09-20 Thread kacyjones
On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 12:56:49 PM UTC-7, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Good news, we are getting closer to understanding what to do.
> This in from Ned.  I will continue after the message:
> 
> --- Forwarded Message
> 
> Return-Path: 
> From: Ned Deily 
> Subject: Re: Fixing Python install on the Mac after running 'CleanMyMac'
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 10:28:19 -0700
> Lines: 63
> 
> > Might that appear to work at first, but leave some subtle issues which are
> > not at first apparent? I don't know how intertwined Apple's Python instance
> > is in the day-to-day operation of the operating system (it certainly seems
> > to be on some Linux distros), but it's possible that some Apple-specific
> > package isn't available at part of the stock Python 2.7 distribution.
> 
> Installing a python.org Python (/usr/local/bin/python*) is independent 
> of and does not interfere with use of the Apple-supplied system Pythons 
> (/usr/bin/python*).  Apple does ship various third-party Python packages 
> ("distributions") with its system Python, like numpy, but they tend to 
> be old and outdated versions and there are a few Apple-only packages.  
> But, should that issue arise, that can be resolved by choosing the right 
> path (/usr/local/bin vs /usr/bin) or removing /usr/local/bin from $PATH.
> 
> The thing is the original message in this thread had this:
> > They are getting:
> >  Utility has encountered a fatal error, and will now terminate.  A
> >  Python runtime could not be located. You may need to install a
> >  framework build of Python or edit the PyRuntimeLocations array in this
> >  applications info.plist file.  Then there are two oblong circles. One
> >  says Open Console. The other says Terminate.
> 
> But ... I just did what I should have done earlier: googled for that 
> message.  And I find that the message is coming from a py2app-built 
> application (and it seems I answered the question 3 years ago!):
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10184974/py2app-is-not-copying-the-pyt
> hon-framework-to-the-new-app-while-using-virutalenv
> 
> The py2app glue code could be looking for Pythons in various spots 
> including the system Python.  So, let's make sure the system Python is 
> still working.  On the most up-to-date 10.7 Lion system (10.7.5), typing 
> the following two commands should give results the same as those shown 
> (->):
> 
> /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)'
> - -> 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Jul 31 2011, 19:30:53) 
> - -> [GCC 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)]
> 
> /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import numpy;print(numpy.__file__)'
> - -> 
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/pytho
> n/numpy/__init__.py
> 
> If not, then it really may be necessary to restore system files which, 
> as I noted before, is most safely and accurately done by following 
> Apple's directions to restore the system from the recovery partition and 
> a good backup of user files.
> 
> - -- 
>  Ned Deily,
>  n...@acm.org
> 
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> --- End of Forwarded Message
> 
> So please type
> 
> /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)'
> 
> and tell me what you get as an answer.
> 
> Then type
> 
> /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import numpy;print(numpy.__file__)'
> 
> and again tell me what you get.
> 
> But if it isn't as Ned expects, then you may have to go back to
> your backups.
> 
> Laura


I was having this same problem, entered those commands and got this as a 
response:

MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import 
numpy;print(numpy.__file__)' 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/numpy/__init__.pyc
MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ 
MacBook-Pro:~ kacyjones$ /usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)' 
2.7.10 (default, Jul 14 2015, 19:46:27) 
[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 6.0 (clang-600.0.39)]

Any idea what that means for my system?
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Re: Fixing Python install on the Mac after running 'CleanMyMac' (fwd)

2015-05-29 Thread Laura Creighton
Good news, we are getting closer to understanding what to do.
This in from Ned.  I will continue after the message:

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Return-Path: 
From: Ned Deily 
Subject: Re: Fixing Python install on the Mac after running 'CleanMyMac'
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 10:28:19 -0700
Lines: 63

> Might that appear to work at first, but leave some subtle issues which are
> not at first apparent? I don't know how intertwined Apple's Python instance
> is in the day-to-day operation of the operating system (it certainly seems
> to be on some Linux distros), but it's possible that some Apple-specific
> package isn't available at part of the stock Python 2.7 distribution.

Installing a python.org Python (/usr/local/bin/python*) is independent 
of and does not interfere with use of the Apple-supplied system Pythons 
(/usr/bin/python*).  Apple does ship various third-party Python packages 
("distributions") with its system Python, like numpy, but they tend to 
be old and outdated versions and there are a few Apple-only packages.  
But, should that issue arise, that can be resolved by choosing the right 
path (/usr/local/bin vs /usr/bin) or removing /usr/local/bin from $PATH.

The thing is the original message in this thread had this:
> They are getting:
>  Utility has encountered a fatal error, and will now terminate.  A
>  Python runtime could not be located. You may need to install a
>  framework build of Python or edit the PyRuntimeLocations array in this
>  applications info.plist file.  Then there are two oblong circles. One
>  says Open Console. The other says Terminate.

But ... I just did what I should have done earlier: googled for that 
message.  And I find that the message is coming from a py2app-built 
application (and it seems I answered the question 3 years ago!):

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10184974/py2app-is-not-copying-the-pyt
hon-framework-to-the-new-app-while-using-virutalenv

The py2app glue code could be looking for Pythons in various spots 
including the system Python.  So, let's make sure the system Python is 
still working.  On the most up-to-date 10.7 Lion system (10.7.5), typing 
the following two commands should give results the same as those shown 
(->):

/usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)'
- -> 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Jul 31 2011, 19:30:53) 
- -> [GCC 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.15.00)]

/usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import numpy;print(numpy.__file__)'
- -> 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/pytho
n/numpy/__init__.py

If not, then it really may be necessary to restore system files which, 
as I noted before, is most safely and accurately done by following 
Apple's directions to restore the system from the recovery partition and 
a good backup of user files.

- -- 
 Ned Deily,
 n...@acm.org

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So please type

/usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)'

and tell me what you get as an answer.

Then type

/usr/bin/python2.7 -c 'import numpy;print(numpy.__file__)'

and again tell me what you get.

But if it isn't as Ned expects, then you may have to go back to
your backups.

Laura
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