Re: How many web framework for python ?
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn. More reading ... Even more reading as of tomorrow, when I get my Web Application Framework article up on my blog. Even listing the vast number of frameworks toolkits out there is daunting, so I figured I may as well share my own outlook. And FWIW, I have abandoned my own contribution, so that's one less out in the wild! - robin noisetheatre.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Alex Martelli wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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There are very good web framework for java and ruby ,
Is there one for python ?
In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks.
Dear Mr. BDFL,
there are too many good web frameworks nowadays. Please eliminate three.
Seems like I should have added a smiley somewhere...
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Re: How many web framework for python ?
bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. Dear Mr. BDFL, there are too many good web frameworks nowadays. Please eliminate three. Seems like I should have added a smiley somewhere... Naah, smileys unneeded -- you'll notice that my I am not a crackpot comment was unsmilied either (and nobody nominated it for QOTW, darn!). Having just coincidentally finished wrapping up the 2nd edition's Nutshell first draft of the chapter on serverside web programming, after a long time researching all the alternatives I've given up on even MENTIONING all of the frameworks available, much less providing any in-depth coverage, so I'm quite sensitized to the situation!-) Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Alex Martelli wrote: bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. Dear Mr. BDFL, there are too many good web frameworks nowadays. Please eliminate three. Seems like I should have added a smiley somewhere... Naah, smileys unneeded -- you'll notice that my I am not a crackpot comment was unsmilied either (and nobody nominated it for QOTW, darn!). Naughty! That's like trying to end a thread by saying Hitler. Having just coincidentally finished wrapping up the 2nd edition's Nutshell first draft of the chapter on serverside web programming, after a long time researching all the alternatives I've given up on even MENTIONING all of the frameworks available, much less providing any in-depth coverage, so I'm quite sensitized to the situation!-) Damn. More reading ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.python.org/pycon/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bo Yang a écrit : Hello everybody , I am a student major in software engeering . I need to do something for my course . There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as my course homework , could you give some advise ? Yes : forget it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bruno Desthuilliers enlightened us with: I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as my course homework , could you give some advise ? Yes : forget it. Why forget it? I've written my own web framework (http://www.unrealtower.org/) and it works great! It was a good learning experience in using mod_python. Besides that, I found the existing frameworks not quite suitable to my taste, and I like my own much more. Please, feel free to take a look at it, and let me know what you think ;-) Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. Dear Mr. BDFL, there are too many good web frameworks nowadays. Please eliminate three. PS: I am *not* a crackpot! Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Why forget it? I've written my own web framework (http://www.unrealtower.org/) and it works great! It was a good Some reasons: - Waste. When you write your own framework, you are helping yourself. If you use an existing framework and possibly contribute patches to it, you help other people too. - Other people have already solved your problems, also problems that you can't think of yet. - Not reusing code is just plain evil. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Ville Vainio enlightened us with: When you write your own framework, you are helping yourself. True. And if that doesn't have a negative effect on others (which I think it doesn't) there is nothing wrong with that. If you use an existing framework and possibly contribute patches to it, you help other people too. Also true, but there is more to it. If I can create my own framework, get more experienced, and be able to spare time in the long run because I can quickly implement features I want, it makes me a more efficient and experienced person. That leaves me more useful when helping people, and gives me more time to help them too. - Other people have already solved your problems I have no problems. My web framework is working just as I want it to. also problems that you can't think of yet. What problems didn't I think of yet? - Not reusing code is just plain evil. I'm using mod_python, Cheetah, SQLObject and PostgreSQL. I publish all my own code under an Open Source license so other people can learn from and contribute to it. How am I not reusing code? Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bruno, In fact, there are actually too much *good* python web frameworks. I tended to share that opinion, just because there are more web frameworks then keywords in Python. But we should stop thinking of this as a bug; it is a feature. Because everyone and his girlfriend creates an own web framework for Python, we have a clear security advantage over other languages. One ruby on rails worm will bring down at least 2000 web 2.0 beta sites. A worm for a Python web framework will be incompatible with all others. Harald -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bo Yang: There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? Yes. http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebProgramming I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as my course homework , could you give some advise ? Write Zope3. -- René Pijlman -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How many web framework for python ?
Bo Yang wrote: There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? There are many good ones. I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as my course homework , could you give some advise ? Implement yet another web framework? It needs to be made harder so people can stop doing it all the time. ;-) You might want to watch the 20 min turbogears video for a laid back approach of familiarizing yourself with a python web framework: http://www.turbogears.org/docs/wiki20/20MinuteWiki.mov -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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How many web framework for python ?
Hello everybody , I am a student major in software engeering . I need to do something for my course . There are very good web framework for java and ruby , Is there one for python ? I want to write a web framework for python based on mod_python as my course homework , could you give some advise ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
