Re: How to detect when a user switches between windows (in WinXP)?

2007-12-27 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Roberts wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm a beginning-to-intermediate Python programmer with some experience
 in other languages. At the moment I am trying to write a Python
 program that will run in the background and execute a series of
 commands whenever I switch between windows (my OS is Windows XP). For
 example, I want my program to do something when I switch to my Firefox
 browser, and then do something else when I switch to a certain sub-
 window in Photoshop (which has a certain title, and a certain photo
 associated with it), then do yet another thing when I switch to
 another sub-window (with a different title and photo) within
 Photoshop.
 The particular actions will be based on the window's title. I've
 already figured out how to retrieve that, using
 GetWindowText(GetForegroundWindow()) from the win32gui module.
 My question is, how can I detect when the user switches between
 windows? I haven't been able to figure that part out yet.
 Searching the group didn't give me any answers.
 
 The way you do this is to write a Windows hook.  The WH_CBT hook intercepts
 WM_ACTIVATE and WM_DEACTIVATE calls system-wide.
 
 However, that requires injecting the hook DLL into every process with a
 Windows, and you certainly don't want to do that in Python.  Write a
 minimal C DLL to be the hook, and have it send messages to your Python
 process.

Also, aside from the technicalities of how you do this, be sure
you've thought through the effect on user-interaction (if the
user isn't you). Switching between windows is one of those things
a user has a very definite expectation about. If you subvert that
by doing magic things when you switch between this and that
window then you might end up alienating the user.

But, as Tim points out, system hooks are the way to go.

TJG
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Re: How to detect when a user switches between windows (in WinXP)?

2007-12-26 Thread Tim Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm a beginning-to-intermediate Python programmer with some experience
in other languages. At the moment I am trying to write a Python
program that will run in the background and execute a series of
commands whenever I switch between windows (my OS is Windows XP). For
example, I want my program to do something when I switch to my Firefox
browser, and then do something else when I switch to a certain sub-
window in Photoshop (which has a certain title, and a certain photo
associated with it), then do yet another thing when I switch to
another sub-window (with a different title and photo) within
Photoshop.
The particular actions will be based on the window's title. I've
already figured out how to retrieve that, using
GetWindowText(GetForegroundWindow()) from the win32gui module.
My question is, how can I detect when the user switches between
windows? I haven't been able to figure that part out yet.
Searching the group didn't give me any answers.

The way you do this is to write a Windows hook.  The WH_CBT hook intercepts
WM_ACTIVATE and WM_DEACTIVATE calls system-wide.

However, that requires injecting the hook DLL into every process with a
Windows, and you certainly don't want to do that in Python.  Write a
minimal C DLL to be the hook, and have it send messages to your Python
process.
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How to detect when a user switches between windows (in WinXP)?

2007-12-25 Thread mangoldproject
Hi everyone,

I'm a beginning-to-intermediate Python programmer with some experience
in other languages. At the moment I am trying to write a Python
program that will run in the background and execute a series of
commands whenever I switch between windows (my OS is Windows XP). For
example, I want my program to do something when I switch to my Firefox
browser, and then do something else when I switch to a certain sub-
window in Photoshop (which has a certain title, and a certain photo
associated with it), then do yet another thing when I switch to
another sub-window (with a different title and photo) within
Photoshop.
The particular actions will be based on the window's title. I've
already figured out how to retrieve that, using
GetWindowText(GetForegroundWindow()) from the win32gui module.
My question is, how can I detect when the user switches between
windows? I haven't been able to figure that part out yet.
Searching the group didn't give me any answers.
Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Assaf.
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Re: How to detect when a user switches between windows (in WinXP)?

2007-12-25 Thread kyosohma
On Dec 25, 4:31 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm a beginning-to-intermediate Python programmer with some experience
 in other languages. At the moment I am trying to write a Python
 program that will run in the background and execute a series of
 commands whenever I switch between windows (my OS is Windows XP). For
 example, I want my program to do something when I switch to my Firefox
 browser, and then do something else when I switch to a certain sub-
 window in Photoshop (which has a certain title, and a certain photo
 associated with it), then do yet another thing when I switch to
 another sub-window (with a different title and photo) within
 Photoshop.
 The particular actions will be based on the window's title. I've
 already figured out how to retrieve that, using
 GetWindowText(GetForegroundWindow()) from the win32gui module.
 My question is, how can I detect when the user switches between
 windows? I haven't been able to figure that part out yet.
 Searching the group didn't give me any answers.
 Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 Assaf.

What you most likely want to do is run the win32gui call inside an
infinite loop. Something along these lines:

# untested code
import time
while True:
   winTitle = GetWindowText(GetForegroundWindow())
   if winTitle == 'some string':
   # do something
   time.sleep(1) # nap for a second


This will check once a second to see what window you have up. You'll
probably want to set some kind of sentinel value when it does
something to the current window so it doesn't repeatedly do that
something each second. Thus, the if-then logic will need to be more
complex, but this should get you going.

HTH

Mike
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