Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:42 AM, William Ray Wing  wrote:
> The one I've used is to spawn a subprocess and run the "ifconfig" command 
> with no arguments (which doesn't require any special privileges).

Very small caveat: On some systems, running ifconfig doesn't require
privileges, but it's not in the unprivileged user's default path (it's
in root's path though). I've seen this on Debian Linux, for instance.
So you may need to explicitly call /sbin/ifconfig or whereever it's
stored.

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-13 Thread William Ray Wing
On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Michael Torrie  wrote:

> On 01/11/2014 07:35 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
>> Sam,
>> 
>> How about this?
>> 
>> from uuid import getnode as get_mac
>> '%012x' % get_mac()
> 
> This seems to work if you have only one ethernet adapter.  Most
> computers have two (wired and wireless) adapters.
> 
> Getting a mac address is platform-specific, and the OP has not specified
> what OS he is using.
> 
> On Windows I imagine you'd have to access the WMI subsystem in Windows.
> 
> On Linux you could access the /sys/devices/virtual/net/
> file in the sysfs filesystem.  I'm sure there are other ways.
> 
> No idea on OS X.
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There are probably several ways in OS-X, just as there are in any other UNIX 
system.  The one I've used is to spawn a subprocess and run the "ifconfig" 
command with no arguments (which doesn't require any special privileges).  This 
will return a string of all the network interfaces (including the loopback and 
firewire interfaces in addition to Ethernet and WiFi) and their config specs.  
The OP would then parse this string looking for the location of the phrase 
"status: active" and then back up to the mac address that precedes it.  More 
work than using uuid, but this guarantees a current and correct answer.

>>> import string
>>> import subprocess
>>> mac_result = subprocess.Popen(['ifconfig'], stderr = subprocess.PIPE, 
>>> stdout = subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]
>>> mac_loc = string.find(mac_result, "status: active")

...and so on.

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Sam
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:34:35 AM UTC+8, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 01/11/2014 07:35 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
> 
> 
> On Linux you could access the /sys/devices/virtual/net/
> 
> file in the sysfs filesystem.  I'm sure there are other ways.
> 

Thank you to everyone for the helpful answers. I am using Linux in this case. I 
think this is the direction I am looking for. Thanks!
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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Roy Smith  wrote:
> In article ,
>  Chris Angelico  wrote:
>
>> We had a connection set up a few years
>> ago where the ISP tech recorded the source MAC into the far end, and
>> only that MAC would work - so when I stuck in a different router, I
>> needed to switch it to the old MAC before it could establish a
>> connection. Stupid? Yes. Unusual? I hope so
>
> Actually, I think it's pretty common.

Sad.

> I had exactly the same problem a few years ago.  My DSL router fried
> itself.  I got a new one and it was easier to make it fake out the old
> router's MAC than to get my carrier to update their head end
> configuration[1].
>
> [1] Roy's law of dealing with service providers.  Anything you can do
> yourself is easier than interfacing with tech support.

Unless you expect that doing it yourself will take upwards of an hour,
don't even bother talking to tech support, at least with the ISPs I
know. There's only *ONE* time when I got results quicker than that
(or, say, half an hour absolute minimum): with iiNet, I rang their
support and got dropped into a classic IVR system, and one of the
options was "Press whatever to get the basic setup information for
your connection". A couple more prompts and I was given a prerecorded
pile of numbers and settings, one of which was the exact one I was
having trouble with. With any other kind of business, this sort of
thing belongs on the web site, but for obvious reasons that's less
useful for an ISP :)

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Roy Smith
In article ,
 Chris Angelico  wrote:

> We had a connection set up a few years
> ago where the ISP tech recorded the source MAC into the far end, and
> only that MAC would work - so when I stuck in a different router, I
> needed to switch it to the old MAC before it could establish a
> connection. Stupid? Yes. Unusual? I hope so

Actually, I think it's pretty common.

I had exactly the same problem a few years ago.  My DSL router fried 
itself.  I got a new one and it was easier to make it fake out the old 
router's MAC than to get my carrier to update their head end 
configuration[1].

[1] Roy's law of dealing with service providers.  Anything you can do 
yourself is easier than interfacing with tech support.
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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Roy Smith  wrote:
> If you don't believe that two machines can have the same MAC address,
> look up Hot Standby Router Protocol.  And if you don't believe a machine
> can ignore the BIA and assign a new MAC address in software, look up
> Decnet .

Most people shouldn't have to worry about MAC address
duplication/collision on the same subnet (I used MACs as a means of
guaranteeing uniqueness among a pool of application servers, for
instance), but MAC switching in software can occur in a typical home
internet connection scenario. We had a connection set up a few years
ago where the ISP tech recorded the source MAC into the far end, and
only that MAC would work - so when I stuck in a different router, I
needed to switch it to the old MAC before it could establish a
connection. Stupid? Yes. Unusual? I hope so, but still more likely
than coming across DECnet in a typical home!

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/11/2014 07:35 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
> Sam,
> 
> How about this?
> 
> from uuid import getnode as get_mac
> '%012x' % get_mac()

This seems to work if you have only one ethernet adapter.  Most
computers have two (wired and wireless) adapters.

Getting a mac address is platform-specific, and the OP has not specified
what OS he is using.

On Windows I imagine you'd have to access the WMI subsystem in Windows.

On Linux you could access the /sys/devices/virtual/net/
file in the sysfs filesystem.  I'm sure there are other ways.

No idea on OS X.
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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Roy Smith
In article ,
 "James Harris"  wrote:

> "Andriy Kornatskyy"  wrote in message 
> news:mailman.5329.1389450993.18130.python-l...@python.org...
> > Sam,
> >
> > How about this?
> >
> > from uuid import getnode as get_mac
> > '%012x' % get_mac()
> 
> AIUI that will return a mac address even if there isn't one. That may or may 
> not suit the OP.

Specifically, it says, "If all attempts to obtain the hardware address 
fail, we choose a random 48-bit number with its eighth bit set to 1 as 
recommended in RFC 4122".  Keep in mind that 4122 is all about 
generating globally unique strings.  The only reason it even talks about 
MAC addresses is in the context of one possible way to generate uuids.

If your goal is to get the MAC address for some sort of networking 
reason, you need to bear in mind what James says below:

> To the OP, depending on what you want to do remember that a machine can have 
> more than one mac address and that a mac address can differ from the 
> burned-in address (BIA) as some cards allow the effective mac address to be 
> changed in software. So it's possible that two machines could show the same 
> mac address.

If you don't believe that two machines can have the same MAC address, 
look up Hot Standby Router Protocol.  And if you don't believe a machine 
can ignore the BIA and assign a new MAC address in software, look up 
Decnet .
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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread James Harris
"Andriy Kornatskyy"  wrote in message 
news:mailman.5329.1389450993.18130.python-l...@python.org...
> Sam,
>
> How about this?
>
> from uuid import getnode as get_mac
> '%012x' % get_mac()

AIUI that will return a mac address even if there isn't one. That may or may 
not suit the OP.

To the OP, depending on what you want to do remember that a machine can have 
more than one mac address and that a mac address can differ from the 
burned-in address (BIA) as some cards allow the effective mac address to be 
changed in software. So it's possible that two machines could show the same 
mac address.

James


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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Skip Montanaro
This is slightly longer than ChrisA's second solution:

>>> import uuid
>>> s = "%12x" % uuid.getnode()
>>> ":".join(x+y for x, y in zip(s[::2], s[1::2]))
'18:03:73:cb:2a:ee'

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy
 wrote:
> from uuid import getnode as get_mac
> '%012x' % get_mac()
>

Code golf! Put colons in that, with as little code as possible.

# Way too verbose.
import uuid
l=list("%012x"%uuid.getnode())
l[10:10]=l[8:8]=l[6:6]=l[4:4]=l[2:2]=':'
mac = ''.join(l)

# Shorter but not short enough
import uuid
s="%012x"%uuid.getnode()
mac = ':'.join(s[i*2:i*2+2] for i in range(6))

:)

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Sam  wrote:
> I would like to use python to retrieve the mac address of the ethernet port. 
> Can this be done? Thank you.
>

Did you try searching the web for 'python retrieve mac address' or similar?

There are several options offered.

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Re: How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Sam,

How about this?

from uuid import getnode as get_mac
'%012x' % get_mac()

Thanks.

Andriy Kornatskyy

On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Sam  wrote:

> I would like to use python to retrieve the mac address of the ethernet port. 
> Can this be done? Thank you.
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How to get Mac address of ethernet port?

2014-01-11 Thread Sam
I would like to use python to retrieve the mac address of the ethernet port. 
Can this be done? Thank you.
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