Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Benjamin Watine wrote: > OK, so if I understand well what you said, using queue allow to be sure > that the data is passed in totality before coninuing with next > instruction. That make sense. Right. > Using thread and queue seems to be very more slow than using files > redirection with bash. I'll see if it make a great load average and/or > I/O time. Hmmm... you might try increasing the buffer size. -- --Bryan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Bryan Olson a écrit :
> Benjamin Watine wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>>> I wrote:
And here's a thread example, based on Benjamin's code:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Doh! Race condition. Make that:
>>>
>>> import subprocess
>>> import thread
>>> import Queue
>>>
>>> def readtoq(pipe, q):
>>> q.put(pipe.read())
>>>
>>> cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell=True, stdin=subprocess.PIPE,
>>> stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
>>>
>>> myVar = str(range(100)) # arbitrary test data.
>>>
>>> q = Queue.Queue()
>>> thread.start_new_thread(readtoq, (cat.stdout, q))
>>> cat.stdin.write(myVar)
>>> cat.stdin.close()
>>> cat.wait()
>>> myNewVar = q.get()
>>>
>>> assert myNewVar == myVar
>>> print len(myNewVar), "bytes piped around."
>
>> Great, it works, thank you Bryan !
>>
>> Could you explain me why you use a queue instead of a simple array for
>> getting the piped var ?
>
> The call to q.get() will block until an item is in the queue.
> At that point in the program, we had already waited for cat to
> terminate:
>
> cat.wait()
> myNewVar = q.get()
>
> But passing cat.wait() does not imply that our own thread has
> already read all of cat's output and put it in some destination
> object. Data could still be in transit.
>
> My first version, subsequently titled, "Doh! Race condition,"
> worked in all of several runs of its built-in test. Doesn't
> make it right.
>
OK, so if I understand well what you said, using queue allow to be sure
that the data is passed in totality before coninuing with next
instruction. That make sense.
Using thread and queue seems to be very more slow than using files
redirection with bash. I'll see if it make a great load average and/or
I/O time.
Thanks again for your help Bryan.
Ben
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Benjamin Watine wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>> I wrote:
>>> And here's a thread example, based on Benjamin's code:
>> [...]
>>
>> Doh! Race condition. Make that:
>>
>> import subprocess
>> import thread
>> import Queue
>>
>> def readtoq(pipe, q):
>> q.put(pipe.read())
>>
>> cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell=True, stdin=subprocess.PIPE,
>> stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
>>
>> myVar = str(range(100)) # arbitrary test data.
>>
>> q = Queue.Queue()
>> thread.start_new_thread(readtoq, (cat.stdout, q))
>> cat.stdin.write(myVar)
>> cat.stdin.close()
>> cat.wait()
>> myNewVar = q.get()
>>
>> assert myNewVar == myVar
>> print len(myNewVar), "bytes piped around."
>
> Great, it works, thank you Bryan !
>
> Could you explain me why you use a queue instead of a simple array for
> getting the piped var ?
The call to q.get() will block until an item is in the queue.
At that point in the program, we had already waited for cat to
terminate:
cat.wait()
myNewVar = q.get()
But passing cat.wait() does not imply that our own thread has
already read all of cat's output and put it in some destination
object. Data could still be in transit.
My first version, subsequently titled, "Doh! Race condition,"
worked in all of several runs of its built-in test. Doesn't
make it right.
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> I wrote:
>> And here's a thread example, based on Benjamin's code:
> [...]
>
> Doh! Race condition. Make that:
>
> import subprocess
> import thread
> import Queue
>
> def readtoq(pipe, q):
> q.put(pipe.read())
>
> cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell=True, stdin=subprocess.PIPE,
> stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
>
> myVar = str(range(100)) # arbitrary test data.
>
> q = Queue.Queue()
> thread.start_new_thread(readtoq, (cat.stdout, q))
> cat.stdin.write(myVar)
> cat.stdin.close()
> cat.wait()
> myNewVar = q.get()
>
> assert myNewVar == myVar
> print len(myNewVar), "bytes piped around."
>
>
> --
> --Bryan
>
Great, it works, thank you Bryan !
Could you explain me why you use a queue instead of a simple array for
getting the piped var ?
Regards,
Ben
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
I wrote:
> And here's a thread example, based on Benjamin's code:
[...]
Doh! Race condition. Make that:
import subprocess
import thread
import Queue
def readtoq(pipe, q):
q.put(pipe.read())
cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell=True, stdin=subprocess.PIPE,
stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
myVar = str(range(100)) # arbitrary test data.
q = Queue.Queue()
thread.start_new_thread(readtoq, (cat.stdout, q))
cat.stdin.write(myVar)
cat.stdin.close()
cat.wait()
myNewVar = q.get()
assert myNewVar == myVar
print len(myNewVar), "bytes piped around."
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
> Benjamin Watine wrote:
> > Could you give me more information / examples about the two solutions
> > you've proposed (thread or asynchronous I/O) ?
>
> The source code of the subprocess module shows how to do it with
> select IIRC. Look at the implementation of the communicate() method.
And here's a thread example, based on Benjamin's code:
import subprocess
import thread
def readtobox(pipe, box):
box.append(pipe.read())
cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell=True, stdin=subprocess.PIPE,
stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
myVar = str(range(100)) # arbitrary test data.
box = []
thread.start_new_thread(readtobox, (cat.stdout, box))
cat.stdin.write(myVar)
cat.stdin.close()
cat.wait()
myNewVar = box[0]
assert myNewVar == myVar
print len(myNewVar), "bytes piped around."
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
On Mar 14, 11:37 am, Benjamin Watine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan Olson a écrit : > > > I wrote: > >> [...] Pipe loops are tricky business. > > >> Popular solutions are to make either the input or output stream > >> a disk file, or to create another thread (or process) to be an > >> active reader or writer. > > > Or asynchronous I/O. On Unix-like systems, you can select() on > > the underlying file descriptors. (MS-Windows async mechanisms are > > not as well exposed by the Python standard library.) > > Hi Bryan > > Thank you so much for your advice. You're right, I just made a test with > a 10 MB input stream, and it hangs exactly like you said (on > cat.stdin.write(myStdin))... > > I don't want to use disk files. In reality, this script was previously > done in bash using disk files, but I had problems with that solution > (the files wasn't always cleared, and sometimes, I've found a part of > previous input at the end of the next input.) > > That's why I want to use python, just to not use disk files. > > Could you give me more information / examples about the two solutions > you've proposed (thread or asynchronous I/O) ? The source code of the subprocess module shows how to do it with select IIRC. Look at the implementation of the communicate() method. Regards Floris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Bryan Olson a écrit : > I wrote: >> [...] Pipe loops are tricky business. >> >> Popular solutions are to make either the input or output stream >> a disk file, or to create another thread (or process) to be an >> active reader or writer. > > Or asynchronous I/O. On Unix-like systems, you can select() on > the underlying file descriptors. (MS-Windows async mechanisms are > not as well exposed by the Python standard library.) > Hi Bryan Thank you so much for your advice. You're right, I just made a test with a 10 MB input stream, and it hangs exactly like you said (on cat.stdin.write(myStdin))... I don't want to use disk files. In reality, this script was previously done in bash using disk files, but I had problems with that solution (the files wasn't always cleared, and sometimes, I've found a part of previous input at the end of the next input.) That's why I want to use python, just to not use disk files. Could you give me more information / examples about the two solutions you've proposed (thread or asynchronous I/O) ? Thank you ! Ben -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
I wrote: > [...] Pipe loops are tricky business. > > Popular solutions are to make either the input or output stream > a disk file, or to create another thread (or process) to be an > active reader or writer. Or asynchronous I/O. On Unix-like systems, you can select() on the underlying file descriptors. (MS-Windows async mechanisms are not as well exposed by the Python standard library.) -- --Bryan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Benjamin Watine wrote:
> And if somebody need it : to get the stdout in a var (myNewVar), not in
> the shell :
>
> cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell = True, stdin = subprocess.PIPE,
> stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
> cat.stdin.write(myVar)
> cat.stdin.close()
> cat.wait()
> myNewVar = cat.stdout.read()
>
> Is it correct ?
No, not really. It is prone to deadlock. The external program might
work by iteratively reading a little input and writing a little
output, as 'cat' almost surely does. If the size of myVar exceeds
the buffer space in cat and the pipes, you get stuck.
Your Python program can block at "cat.stdin.write(myVar)", waiting
for cat to read from its input pipe, while cat blocks at a write
to its output stream, waiting for you to start reading and freeing
up buffer space. Pipe loops are tricky business.
Popular solutions are to make either the input or output stream
a disk file, or to create another thread (or process) to be an
active reader or writer.
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Marko Rauhamaa a écrit :
> Benjamin Watine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> How can I do this ? I would like a function like that :
>>
>> theFunction ('cat -', stdin=myVar)
>>
>> Another related question : Is there's a limitation of var size ? I
>> would have var up to 10 MB.
>
> import subprocess
> myVar = '*' * 1000
> cat = subprocess.Popen('cat',shell = True,stdin = subprocess.PIPE)
> cat.stdin.write(myVar)
> cat.stdin.close()
> cat.wait()
>
>
> Marko
>
Thank you Marko, it's exactly what I need.
And if somebody need it : to get the stdout in a var (myNewVar), not in
the shell :
cat = subprocess.Popen('cat', shell = True, stdin = subprocess.PIPE,
stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
cat.stdin.write(myVar)
cat.stdin.close()
cat.wait()
myNewVar = cat.stdout.read()
Is it correct ?
Ben
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Benjamin Watine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I do this ? I would like a function like that :
>
> theFunction ('cat -', stdin=myVar)
>
>I don't need to get any return value.
http://docs.python.org/lib/node534.html says this is spelt
myVar = subprocess.Popen(["cat", "-"], stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]
(Probably not obvious how to find this if you've not come across the
backtick notation in shell or Perl.)
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Re: How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Benjamin Watine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> How can I do this ? I would like a function like that :
>
> theFunction ('cat -', stdin=myVar)
>
> Another related question : Is there's a limitation of var size ? I
> would have var up to 10 MB.
import subprocess
myVar = '*' * 1000
cat = subprocess.Popen('cat',shell = True,stdin = subprocess.PIPE)
cat.stdin.write(myVar)
cat.stdin.close()
cat.wait()
Marko
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How to send a var to stdin of an external software
Hi the list,
I need to send a var to stdin of an external soft ("cat" command for
example).
How can I do this ? I would like a function like that :
theFunction ('cat -', stdin=myVar)
I don't need to get any return value.
Another related question : Is there's a limitation of var size ? I would
have var up to 10 MB.
Thanks !
Ben
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