Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-29 Thread Hyuga
On Dec 22, 1:51 pm, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid wrote:
 On 2008-12-22, s...@pobox.com s...@pobox.com wrote:

  ... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be
  doing something else: studying, working, writing patches which
  solve the problems they perceive to exist in the troll
  subject?

 I think you misunderstand the point of trolling.  The author of
 a troll post doesn't actually care about the problems (and
 may not even genuinely perceive them as problems).

  Is there some online troll game running where the players earn
  points for generating responses to their posts?

 Yup. It's called Usenet.

a.k.a. multi-player Emacs in deathmatch mode on nightmare
difficulty. ;)
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-27 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

   Go to Google groups... it looks perfect :)
 
  It's a usenet group here, nothing to do with google groups.
  To get back to the group subject, what is your actual python projects ?
 
 I am crusading to bring python scripting to Google SketchUp, do want
 to get on board?

I've other real project on the run, no crusade just programming.
Google sketchup doesn't really interest me, sorry...

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-27 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Carl Banks pav...@gmail.com wrote:

If you have to followup, at least keep your reply to something short
and witty, like, Go away, troll.

OK will do see next post.

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-26 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Go to Google groups... it looks perfect :)

It's a usenet group here, nothing to do with google groups.
To get back to the group subject, what is your actual python projects ?

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-26 Thread r
On Dec 26, 5:06 am, pdora...@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain
Dorange) wrote:
 r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

  Go to Google groups... it looks perfect :)

 It's a usenet group here, nothing to do with google groups.
 To get back to the group subject, what is your actual python projects ?

I am crusading to bring python scripting to Google SketchUp, do want
to get on board?

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-25 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

 220 ratings and 1 star, WH!. I find this all quite amusing :D.
 Keep em coming. Oh, and FYI, I will always have 1 star! hahahahahha
 
 
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Very nice indeed, but you forget ascii art need a fixed font...

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-25 Thread r
On Dec 25, 4:22 am, pdora...@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain
Dorange) wrote:
 r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
  220 ratings and 1 star, WH!. I find this all quite amusing :D.
  Keep em coming. Oh, and FYI, I will always have 1 star! hahahahahha

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             | ~   ~   ~   ~ |`   )
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 Very nice indeed, but you forget ascii art need a fixed font...

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-24 Thread r
220 ratings and 1 star, WH!. I find this all quite amusing :D.
Keep em coming. Oh, and FYI, I will always have 1 star! hahahahahha


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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-24 Thread Craig Allen
this is one of the most subtle trolls I've ever read.

you sir, are a master!


On Dec 22, 7:53 am, s...@pobox.com wrote:
 ... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be doing something
 else: studying, working, writing patches which solve the problems they
 perceive to exist in the troll subject?  Is there some online troll game
 running where the players earn points for generating responses to their
 posts?

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-24 Thread r
On Dec 22, 6:55 pm, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote:
 On Dec 23, 10:24 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

  Because my balls are so big i walk around bow-legged!

 Have you considered that your alleged testicular enormity may in fact
 be an illusion caused by a hernia?

John i see some troll rated your post with one star, so i rated it
myself with 5. I actually thought it was quite amusing, and shows you
yourself have a solid pair, unlike some others around here who's have
not even dropped yet.  :)
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-23 Thread r
On Dec 22, 11:12 pm, ajaksu aja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Dec 22, 9:24 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

  You know what i hate more than a troll, a spineless jellyfish who goes
  around rating peoples post with one star. You are the lowest form of
  life. You are the same type of person who would key someones car in
  the parking lot. You do not have the balls to face you enemy.

  If who made a rating were visible, then i would have respect for you,
  but since you lurk in the shadows, you are scum. Come out and face me
  if you dare!

  I never have rated a post UNLESS i rate it with 5 stars, WHY, you ask,
  Because my balls are so big i walk around bow-legged! F'in  Cowards!

 That would be me, for at least a dozen of your posts. Glad to know it
 was more effective than telling you to shut up or calm down.

 Cnidaria-ly y'rs,
 Daniel

Well that shows that even lads with tiny nads can be brave, any of the
other trolls want to expose them selfs?
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[Offtopic] Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-23 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

 [...]
 Well that shows that even lads with tiny nads can be brave, any of the
 other trolls want to expose them selfs?

This thread is offtopic, please just keep silent and let it be closed...

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I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread skip
... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be doing something
else: studying, working, writing patches which solve the problems they
perceive to exist in the troll subject?  Is there some online troll game
running where the players earn points for generating responses to their
posts?

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Martin P. Hellwig

s...@pobox.com wrote:

Is there some online troll game
running where the players earn points for generating responses to their
posts?


You just got 10 points ;-)

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-22, s...@pobox.com s...@pobox.com wrote:

 ... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be
 doing something else: studying, working, writing patches which
 solve the problems they perceive to exist in the troll
 subject?

I think you misunderstand the point of trolling.  The author of
a troll post doesn't actually care about the problems (and
may not even genuinely perceive them as problems).

 Is there some online troll game running where the players earn
 points for generating responses to their posts?

Yup. It's called Usenet.

I'm sure we all have our, um, non-productive hobbies and
forms of entertainment.  A well done troll [which, I admit, is
somewhat rare] is a bit of an art, and can be rather
entertaining to watch.  

Of course there's the other, much larger, category of posters
(sometimes confused with trollers): the lazy, ignorant
whingers.  Apart from being much more common, they're also much
less entertaining to everybody except the ranting flamer.

As you can see, Usenet is a rather complex eco-system with a
lot of niches...

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-22, Martin P. Hellwig martin.hell...@dcuktec.org wrote:
 s...@pobox.com wrote:

 Is there some online troll game running where the players earn
 points for generating responses to their posts?

 You just got 10 points ;-)

We'll have to ask for an instant replay for the judges on that
one.  If his question was genuine, then it doesn't officially
count as a troll.

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Christian Heimes
s...@pobox.com schrieb:
  shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be doing something
 else: studying, working, writing patches which solve the problems they
 perceive to exist in the troll subject?  Is there some online troll game
 running where the players earn points for generating responses to their
 posts?

Don't worry about the trolling, Skip. I'd be more worried if nobody
trolls about Python. It would mean Python loses popularity and our work
is all in vain.

Prepare yourself for the worst, Christmas holidays are near! The fading
day light usually increased the amount of troll posts.

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread r
 You just got 10 points ;-)

Fighting trolls begets a troll. Skip not you, i have so much respect
for you :)

What really is a troll?
Someone who does not agree with you?
Someone you don't like?
Someone you do like?

All good questions. I think this whole troll calling business has
gotten out of hand. Some people may antagonize you, but who is
ultimately to blame for that? I guess we could have this set up were
certain people could be banned, would you like that. Or maybe you
should just ignore that which bothers you. If someone came to this
group and said

 Ruby rules! Python sucks eggs!

I would not even bother to reply. But do not let yourself be closed
minded and think your ways are alway right. I have learned a lot from
people here and have disagreed with a lot of opinions here. Troll
calling is childish. be more open minded than that.
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread r
On Dec 22, 1:02 pm, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
 Don't worry about the trolling, Skip. I'd be more worried if nobody
 trolls about Python. It would mean Python loses popularity and our work
 is all in vain.

Christain,
you are truly an open minded, intelligent Human being. Thanks for
blessing use with your wisdom here. We need more like you. Every
thought, action, fact, must always be questioned, that is what makes
us human!

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Christian Heimes
 you are truly an open minded, intelligent Human being. Thanks for
 blessing use with your wisdom here. We need more like you. Every
 thought, action, fact, must always be questioned, that is what makes
 us human!

*plonk*

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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread r
On Dec 22, 1:54 pm, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
  you are truly an open minded, intelligent Human being. Thanks for
  blessing use with your wisdom here. We need more like you. Every
  thought, action, fact, must always be questioned, that is what makes
  us human!

 *plonk*

so i was wrong about you ;)
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Carl Banks
On Dec 22, 11:53 am, s...@pobox.com wrote:
 ... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be doing something
 else: studying, working, writing patches which solve the problems they
 perceive to exist in the troll subject?  Is there some online troll game
 running where the players earn points for generating responses to their
 posts?

...shouldn't poeple who spend all their time following up to trolls,
or starting new threads about trolls, being doing something else?

Seriously, I participated briefly in the that thread when r still had
benefit of the doubt over whether he had any credibility, but now
there is no doubt that he none at all, so he's not worth replying to,
so I don't.  I suggest everyone else does likewise and ignores the
fool.

If you have to followup, at least keep your reply to something short
and witty, like, Go away, troll.


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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread Alvin ONeal

 What really is a troll?

*troll* /v.,n./

[From the Usenet group *alt.folklore.urban news:alt.folklore.urban*] To
utter a posting on
Usenethttp://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_36.html#TAG1882designed to
attract predictable responses or
flame http://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_21.html#TAG642s. Derives from the
phrase trolling for
newbiehttp://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_29.html#TAG1245s
which in turn comes from mainstream trolling, a style of fishing in which
one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The
well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to
make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly
conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate
troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.

Some people claim that the troll is properly a narrower category than flame
bait http://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon_21.html#TAG643, that a troll is
categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly
controversial.
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread skip

Carl ...shouldn't poeple who spend all their time following up to
Carl trolls, or starting new threads about trolls, being doing
Carl something else?

Sure.  It was just a momentary break from work, as is this.  I thought an
implied smiley was enough, but I guess not.

Skip
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread r
On Dec 22, 2:31 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
     Carl ...shouldn't poeple who spend all their time following up to
     Carl trolls, or starting new threads about trolls, being doing
     Carl something else?

 Sure.  It was just a momentary break from work, as is this.  I thought an
 implied smiley was enough, but I guess not.

 Skip

Pythonic.explicit_smiley() - :)
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread ajaksu
On Dec 22, 3:53 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
 ... shouldn't people who spend all their time trolling be doing something
 else: studying, working, writing patches which solve the problems they
 perceive to exist in the troll subject?  

Sure. So should I.

Hmm.

Shutting-up-and-back-to-work-ly y'rs,
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread r
You know what i hate more than a troll, a spineless jellyfish who goes
around rating peoples post with one star. You are the lowest form of
life. You are the same type of person who would key someones car in
the parking lot. You do not have the balls to face you enemy.

If who made a rating were visible, then i would have respect for you,
but since you lurk in the shadows, you are scum. Come out and face me
if you dare!

I never have rated a post UNLESS i rate it with 5 stars, WHY, you ask,
Because my balls are so big i walk around bow-legged! F'in  Cowards!
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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread John Machin
On Dec 23, 10:24 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Because my balls are so big i walk around bow-legged!

Have you considered that your alleged testicular enormity may in fact
be an illusion caused by a hernia?



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Re: I always wonder ...

2008-12-22 Thread ajaksu
On Dec 22, 9:24 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
 You know what i hate more than a troll, a spineless jellyfish who goes
 around rating peoples post with one star. You are the lowest form of
 life. You are the same type of person who would key someones car in
 the parking lot. You do not have the balls to face you enemy.

 If who made a rating were visible, then i would have respect for you,
 but since you lurk in the shadows, you are scum. Come out and face me
 if you dare!

 I never have rated a post UNLESS i rate it with 5 stars, WHY, you ask,
 Because my balls are so big i walk around bow-legged! F'in  Cowards!

That would be me, for at least a dozen of your posts. Glad to know it
was more effective than telling you to shut up or calm down.

Cnidaria-ly y'rs,
Daniel
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