Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-09 Thread Steve Holden
abcd wrote:
 If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each
 time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import
 it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported??
 
 for example:
 
 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()
 
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 
 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
 big performance hit?
 
 thanks
 
To address the performance question, by the way, the first thing that 
the import process does is look in sys.modules to see whether the module 
has already been imported. If so then it uses the module referenced by 
sys.modules, so the overhead is pretty small (dicts being quite fast 
generally speaking).

So your code is a reasonable way to defer the import of bar until the 
function is called, which is why I presumed you coded it that way.

regards
  Steve
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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-09 Thread Maric Michaud
Le Jeudi 08 Juin 2006 22:02, abcd a écrit :

 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()

 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()

 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
 big performance hit?

Import a module more than once doesn't execute the code of this module more 
than once.

I don't know what's your need but as some have spoke of reload I just want to 
warn you, reload a module means that you want invalidate the code of this and 
replace it by a new one, this is not like a normal but deeper import. Also, 
you'll have to deal yourself wiith references to your old code.
Hmmm,  the following example should be clear than my explanations :)

n [1]: import temp

In [2]: class a(temp.Base
temp.Base

In [2]: class a(temp.Base
temp.Base

In [2]: class a(temp.Base
temp.Base

In [2]: class a(temp.Base) : pass
   ...:

In [3]: reload(temp)
Out[3]: module 'temp' from 'temp.pyc'

In [4]: class b(temp.Base) : pass
   ...:

In [7]: b.__base__, a.__base__, b.__base__ is a.__base__
Out[7]: (class 'temp.Base', class 'temp.Base', False)

In [8]: isinstance(a(), temp.Base), isinstance(b(), temp.Base)
Out[8]: (False, True)

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Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread abcd
If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each
time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import
it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported??

for example:

def foo():
import bar
bar.printStuff()

foo()
foo()
foo()
foo()

...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
big performance hit?

thanks

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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread Dustan

abcd wrote:
 If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each
 time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import
 it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported??

 for example:

 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()

 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()

 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
 big performance hit?

 thanks

I don't really know, but I do know that the right way to re-import a
module is:

reload(bar)

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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread John Salerno
abcd wrote:

 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()
 
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 
 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
 big performance hit?
 
 thanks
 

Given a file called bar.py with the following contents:

print I'm being imported!

def printStuff():
 print 'stuff'

I get this output when I import foo.py:

  import foo
I'm being imported!
stuff
stuff
stuff
stuff
 


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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread Laszlo Nagy
abcd írta:
 If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each
 time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import
 it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported??

 for example:

 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()

 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()

 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once? 
Just once. Try this:

bar.py:

print I have been imported

def printStuff():
print printStuff was called

foo.py:

def foo():
import bar
bar.printStuff()

foo()
foo()
foo()


The result is:

I have been imported
printStuff was called
printStuff was called
printStuff was called


If you really need to reimport the module, you can do this:

foo.py:

import bar

def foo():
global bar
bar = reload(bar)
bar.printStuff()

foo()
foo()
foo()


The result is:

I have been imported
I have been imported
printStuff was called
I have been imported
printStuff was called
I have been imported
printStuff was called


 Is this a big performance hit?
   
It depends on the size of your 'bar.py' module, and also it depends on 
how often you need to change/reload while your program is running.

Best,

   Laszlo

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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread John Bokma
abcd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each
 time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import
 it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported??
 
 for example:
 
 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()
 
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 foo()
 
 ...will that re-import bar 4 times...or just import it once?  is this a
 big performance hit?

I am new to Python so this might be a weird question, but it there a 
reason why you import bar inside foo?

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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread Terry Reedy

John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()
 I am new to Python so this might be a weird question, but it there a
 reason why you import bar inside foo?

Two possible reasons:
1) delay import until actually needed, if ever.
2) put 'bar' into the function local namespace instead of the module global 
namespace

Terry Jan Reedy



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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread John Bokma
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 def foo():
 import bar
 bar.printStuff()
 I am new to Python so this might be a weird question, but it there a
 reason why you import bar inside foo?
 
 Two possible reasons:
 1) delay import until actually needed, if ever.
 2) put 'bar' into the function local namespace instead of the module
 global namespace

OK clear and thanks. I was guessing the later, and the first one I 
overlooked (Perl works different, you have to do the delay yourself).

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Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread Schüle Daniel
it's import-ed only once

# magic.py file

#!/usr/bin/python
print here
import magic# try to import itself

then try

# bad_magic.py

#!/usr/bin/python
print here
import bad_magic
reload(bad_magic)


hth, Daniel
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