Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-21 Thread Nico Grubert
 Several changes have been made to Python 2.4 and 2.5 to support
 AMD64-Linux better, and not all of these changes have been
 incorporated into Python 2.3, as this software is no longer
 maintained.

 As others have said: you should really try to use the python 2.4
 that comes with the operating system. Can you share the reason why
 you have to use Python 2.3?

I actually should use the Python 2.3.5 for an application server called 
  Zope and a Zope product that officially does not support the latest 
Zope version yet. The latest stable Zope version requires  Python 2.4.2 
so I'll installed Python 2.4.3. and I am trying to get it running.

Thanks for the tips.

Nico
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Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Nico Grubert
Hi there,

I'd like to install Python 2.3.5. on a 64-Bit OS (Suse Linux Enterprise 
Server 10) on an AMD Opteron 64-Bit machine.
I have to use Python 2.3.5.

Do I need a special source archive or can I use Python-2.3.5.tgz from 
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.3.5/Python-2.3.5.tgz ?

Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python 
on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?

Regards,
Nico
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Ivan Voras
Nico Grubert wrote:

 Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python 
 on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?

It is as easy. Look around, you'll probably find a pre-built binary 
package for your OS.
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Holden
Nico Grubert wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'd like to install Python 2.3.5. on a 64-Bit OS (Suse Linux Enterprise 
 Server 10) on an AMD Opteron 64-Bit machine.
 I have to use Python 2.3.5.
 
 Do I need a special source archive or can I use Python-2.3.5.tgz from 
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.3.5/Python-2.3.5.tgz ?
 
 Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python 
 on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?
 
More recent versions of Python have incorporated much more support for 
64-bit architectures. 2.5 is about to be released (I believe it should 
be out in the next 24 hours), and I'd recommend that over the older 
version you are considering.

regards
  Steve
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Holden
Steve Holden wrote:
 Nico Grubert wrote:
 
Hi there,

I'd like to install Python 2.3.5. on a 64-Bit OS (Suse Linux Enterprise 
Server 10) on an AMD Opteron 64-Bit machine.
I have to use Python 2.3.5.

Do I need a special source archive or can I use Python-2.3.5.tgz from 
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.3.5/Python-2.3.5.tgz ?

Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python 
on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?

 
 More recent versions of Python have incorporated much more support for 
 64-bit architectures. 2.5 is about to be released (I believe it should 
 be out in the next 24 hours), and I'd recommend that over the older 
 version you are considering.
 
Correction: it's out NOW!

get-it-while-it's-hot-ly y'rs  - steve
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Anthony Baxter
 More recent versions of Python have incorporated much more support for
 64-bit architectures. 2.5 is about to be released (I believe it should
 be out in the next 24 hours), and I'd recommend that over the older
 version you are considering.

If by 24 hours you mean 20 minutes ago, this is entirely correct wink
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Daniel Dittmar
Nico Grubert wrote:
 I'd like to install Python 2.3.5. on a 64-Bit OS (Suse Linux Enterprise 
 Server 10) on an AMD Opteron 64-Bit machine.
 I have to use Python 2.3.5.
 
 Do I need a special source archive or can I use Python-2.3.5.tgz from 
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.3.5/Python-2.3.5.tgz ?
 
 Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python 
 on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?

On this platform, it should be easy to build from the sources as gcc 
builds 64 bit programs by default.

On some platforms (Solaris/Sparc, AIX, HP-UX/PA-RISC), the compiler 
defaults to 32bit programs. You then have to convince configure to use 
the right CFLAGS. The exact technique might differ from configure to 
configure: some require an option, some require an environment variable. 
Tip: create wrapper scripts for the compiler (and possibly ld and ar), 
which uses the proper options. Add the location of these scripts at the 
start of PATH, thus overiding the compiler. Now all configures will 
default to 64 bit.

Daniel

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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Holden
Anthony Baxter wrote:
More recent versions of Python have incorporated much more support for
64-bit architectures. 2.5 is about to be released (I believe it should
be out in the next 24 hours), and I'd recommend that over the older
version you are considering.
 
 
 If by 24 hours you mean 20 minutes ago, this is entirely correct wink

:-)
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Re: Installing Python on a 64-Bit OS

2006-09-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Nico Grubert schrieb:
 Is there anything special I have to care about or is installing Python
 on a 64 Bit OS just as easy as installing it on a 32-Bit OS?

Despite what everybody else said: most likely, special care is
necessary. However, nobody probably knows what precisely you need
to be aware of.

Several changes have been made to Python 2.4 and 2.5 to support
AMD64-Linux better, and not all of these changes have been
incorporated into Python 2.3, as this software is no longer
maintained.

My advise is just to try building it, run the test suite, and
see whether it passes. If it fails to compile or pass the
test suite, post a message with the specific problem - hopefully,
somebody will remember how it was fixed.

As others have said: you should really try to use the python 2.4
that comes with the operating system. Can you share the reason why
you have to use Python 2.3?

Regards,
Martin
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