Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 6:36 pm, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 23, 5:04 pm, Kevin Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello > > > I was a python newbie just a month ago and found the following books a great > > help. > > > Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional (Beginning: From Novice to > > Professional) by Magnus L. Hetland (Paperback - 29 Sep > > 2005)http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional/dp/15905... > > > WxPython in Action by Noel Rappin and Robin Dunn (Paperback - 30 Mar > > 2006)http://www.amazon.co.uk/WxPython-Action-Noel-Rappin/dp/1932394621/ref... > > > Kevin > > > On Monday 23 April 2007, 7stud wrote: > > > > Uhhmm...how are you supposed to close a ShapedWindow(under > > > Miscellaneous)? > > I am reading both now, and I would not recommend either one. If you > just skim over the examples and don't play with them, you might > mistakenly believe you know what's going on, but if you actually try > the examples and alter them here and there to figure out how things > really work, you will discover all the mistakes and gaps in both > books. Beginning Python is a good reference, but there's not much for examples, other than the fairly advanced stuff in the back of the book. "Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner" by Dawson was much more fun since you get to create games in python. I'm not sure why you don't like the wxPython one. It was a nice reference. But maybe I liked it as I started out learning C++ and wxPython has similar idioms. If you want to learn the nuts and bolts of the Python language, you'll need to read "Programming Python" by Lutz or the really in-depth book "Core Python Programming" by Chun, which (unfortunately) has lots of info, but not much code. The current wxPython demo is here: http://wxpython.org/download.php (about a third of the way down) Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 5:04 pm, Kevin Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > I was a python newbie just a month ago and found the following books a great > help. > > Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional (Beginning: From Novice to > Professional) by Magnus L. Hetland (Paperback - 29 Sep > 2005)http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional/dp/15905... > > WxPython in Action by Noel Rappin and Robin Dunn (Paperback - 30 Mar > 2006)http://www.amazon.co.uk/WxPython-Action-Noel-Rappin/dp/1932394621/ref... > > Kevin > > On Monday 23 April 2007, 7stud wrote: > > > Uhhmm...how are you supposed to close a ShapedWindow(under > > Miscellaneous)? I am reading both now, and I would not recommend either one. If you just skim over the examples and don't play with them, you might mistakenly believe you know what's going on, but if you actually try the examples and alter them here and there to figure out how things really work, you will discover all the mistakes and gaps in both books. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
Hello I was a python newbie just a month ago and found the following books a great help. Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional (Beginning: From Novice to Professional) by Magnus L. Hetland (Paperback - 29 Sep 2005) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beginning-Python-Novice-Professional/dp/159059519X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/026-1738001-7066018?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177369262&sr=8-2 WxPython in Action by Noel Rappin and Robin Dunn (Paperback - 30 Mar 2006) http://www.amazon.co.uk/WxPython-Action-Noel-Rappin/dp/1932394621/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/026-1738001-7066018?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177369390&sr=8-1 Kevin On Monday 23 April 2007, 7stud wrote: > Uhhmm...how are you supposed to close a ShapedWindow(under > Miscellaneous)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
Uhhmm...how are you supposed to close a ShapedWindow(under Miscellaneous)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 4:25 pm, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 23, 12:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your front-end GUI. You might > > also take a gander at wxPython. It has an excellent demo you could > > download and it might give you some additional ideas for > > implementation:www.wxpython.org. > > > Mike > > Hi, > > I've heard about that excellent demo, but I downloaded wxPython, and I > don't even know where to look for it. Any pointers? Never mind. Got it: $ python /Developer/Examples/wxWidgets/wxPython/demo/demo.py -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 12:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your front-end GUI. You might > also take a gander at wxPython. It has an excellent demo you could > download and it might give you some additional ideas for > implementation:www.wxpython.org. > > Mike Hi, I've heard about that excellent demo, but I downloaded wxPython, and I don't even know where to look for it. Any pointers? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 1:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Apr 23, 9:52 am, KDawg44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I am new to Python and am trying to write a little front end to > > another application in Python. > > > What I want is to have a gui pop up listing some items with several > > buttons. The guts of the program I am not having any trouble with but > > the GUI part I am (or more accurately, the transition between GUI > > pieces). > > > The first GUI that pops up lists some groups in a listbox and gives > > the user the choice to create a new group, open a group, rename the > > group, or delete the group. The new group and rename group buttons > > pop up a dialog gui asking for the name/new name. The Open Group is > > to open another GUI listing projects within that group in a list with > > similar options (New Project, Open Project, Rename Project, Delete > > Project). > > > My question is, how should I create all these GUIs? Should each GUI > > be its own class with its own __init__? Then is the first GUI the > > root (how I have it set up now) and all other GUIs using Toplevel()? > > > I hope this makes sense (because it only sort of makes sense in my > > head). > > > THanks for any suggestions. > > I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your GUI front-end. You should > be able to just use standard dialog boxes for your "new group" and > "rename group" dialogs and a custom hand-coded dialog for the other > one. All three can be called with ShowModal() instead of Toplevel(). > And yes, the custom dialog would work best if you made it into a > separate class. > > You could also put that information for the GUI that list projects > into a "tree" widget of some sort, maybe with a splitter window. I > haven't had much luck with Tkinter's tree widgets though. PMW and Tix > both have rather poor docs unless you enjoy man pages. You might check > out wxPython instead. It has an excellent demo that is very good at > showing you not only what all it can do, but how it is done:www.wxpython.org. > > Good luck! > > Mike Thanks very much for your suggestions. I think i will look into wxPython, though I will finish this little app in tkinter since I am almost done with it. THanks for your help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 1:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Apr 23, 9:52 am, KDawg44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I am new to Python and am trying to write a little front end to > > another application in Python. > > > What I want is to have a gui pop up listing some items with several > > buttons. The guts of the program I am not having any trouble with but > > the GUI part I am (or more accurately, the transition between GUI > > pieces). > > > The first GUI that pops up lists some groups in a listbox and gives > > the user the choice to create a new group, open a group, rename the > > group, or delete the group. The new group and rename group buttons > > pop up a dialog gui asking for the name/new name. The Open Group is > > to open another GUI listing projects within that group in a list with > > similar options (New Project, Open Project, Rename Project, Delete > > Project). > > > My question is, how should I create all these GUIs? Should each GUI > > be its own class with its own __init__? Then is the first GUI the > > root (how I have it set up now) and all other GUIs using Toplevel()? > > > I hope this makes sense (because it only sort of makes sense in my > > head). > > > THanks for any suggestions. > > I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your GUI front-end. You should > be able to just use standard dialog boxes for your "new group" and > "rename group" dialogs and a custom hand-coded dialog for the other > one. All three can be called with ShowModal() instead of Toplevel(). > And yes, the custom dialog would work best if you made it into a > separate class. > > You could also put that information for the GUI that list projects > into a "tree" widget of some sort, maybe with a splitter window. I > haven't had much luck with Tkinter's tree widgets though. PMW and Tix > both have rather poor docs unless you enjoy man pages. You might check > out wxPython instead. It has an excellent demo that is very good at > showing you not only what all it can do, but how it is done:www.wxpython.org. > > Good luck! > > Mike Sorry about the dual posting. This thing isn't posting correctly for me today. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 9:52 am, KDawg44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to Python and am trying to write a little front end to > another application in Python. > > What I want is to have a gui pop up listing some items with several > buttons. The guts of the program I am not having any trouble with but > the GUI part I am (or more accurately, the transition between GUI > pieces). > > The first GUI that pops up lists some groups in a listbox and gives > the user the choice to create a new group, open a group, rename the > group, or delete the group. The new group and rename group buttons > pop up a dialog gui asking for the name/new name. The Open Group is > to open another GUI listing projects within that group in a list with > similar options (New Project, Open Project, Rename Project, Delete > Project). > > My question is, how should I create all these GUIs? Should each GUI > be its own class with its own __init__? Then is the first GUI the > root (how I have it set up now) and all other GUIs using Toplevel()? > > I hope this makes sense (because it only sort of makes sense in my > head). > > THanks for any suggestions. I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your GUI front-end. You should be able to just use standard dialog boxes for your "new group" and "rename group" dialogs and a custom hand-coded dialog for the other one. All three can be called with ShowModal() instead of Toplevel(). And yes, the custom dialog would work best if you made it into a separate class. You could also put that information for the GUI that list projects into a "tree" widget of some sort, maybe with a splitter window. I haven't had much luck with Tkinter's tree widgets though. PMW and Tix both have rather poor docs unless you enjoy man pages. You might check out wxPython instead. It has an excellent demo that is very good at showing you not only what all it can do, but how it is done: www.wxpython.org. Good luck! Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Learning Python - First Project
On Apr 23, 9:52 am, KDawg44 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to Python and am trying to write a little front end to > another application in Python. > > What I want is to have a gui pop up listing some items with several > buttons. The guts of the program I am not having any trouble with but > the GUI part I am (or more accurately, the transition between GUI > pieces). > > The first GUI that pops up lists some groups in a listbox and gives > the user the choice to create a new group, open a group, rename the > group, or delete the group. The new group and rename group buttons > pop up a dialog gui asking for the name/new name. The Open Group is > to open another GUI listing projects within that group in a list with > similar options (New Project, Open Project, Rename Project, Delete > Project). > > My question is, how should I create all these GUIs? Should each GUI > be its own class with its own __init__? Then is the first GUI the > root (how I have it set up now) and all other GUIs using Toplevel()? > > I hope this makes sense (because it only sort of makes sense in my > head). > > THanks for any suggestions. Hi, You should be able to create one main window as "root" and use standard dialogs for the dialogs you mentioned. As for the "Open Group" button, you might use a tree widget instead of opening another window. You could put the tree in a splitter window or something and it might look nicer. Of course, you can do another window, but it would be a custom, hand-coded window and NOT a standard dialog. That would mean that it would indeed be another class with its own "__init__". You can set both the standard dialogs and your custom one to "ShowModal" and then you shouldn't need to use Toplevel(). I am assuming you are using Tkinter for your front-end GUI. You might also take a gander at wxPython. It has an excellent demo you could download and it might give you some additional ideas for implementation: www.wxpython.org . Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Learning Python - First Project
Hi, I am new to Python and am trying to write a little front end to another application in Python. What I want is to have a gui pop up listing some items with several buttons. The guts of the program I am not having any trouble with but the GUI part I am (or more accurately, the transition between GUI pieces). The first GUI that pops up lists some groups in a listbox and gives the user the choice to create a new group, open a group, rename the group, or delete the group. The new group and rename group buttons pop up a dialog gui asking for the name/new name. The Open Group is to open another GUI listing projects within that group in a list with similar options (New Project, Open Project, Rename Project, Delete Project). My question is, how should I create all these GUIs? Should each GUI be its own class with its own __init__? Then is the first GUI the root (how I have it set up now) and all other GUIs using Toplevel()? I hope this makes sense (because it only sort of makes sense in my head). THanks for any suggestions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
