Re: List of all syntactic sugar?

[Diez B. Roggisch]

> That kind of depends on what you mean by syntactic sugar. For instance, I
> wouldn't call any of your examples syntactic sugar. 

AFAIK that is exactly what syntactic sugar means. Apart from non-strictness,
all syntax can be expressed by function application. Even 

foo.bar()

is nothing but

bar(self)

So - he used the term right I'd say.

Regards,

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Re: List of all syntactic sugar?

[Bas]

>That kind of depends on what you mean by syntactic sugar.

Mightbe I was misusing the name of syntactic sugar, but I what I
intended to say was "all the possible 'transformations' that can be
made to reduce all the 'advanced' syntax to some sort of minimal core
of the language".

Bas

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Re: List of all syntactic sugar?

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:54:11 -0700, Bas wrote:

> Hi group,
> 
> just out of curiosity, is there a list of all the syntactic sugar that
> is used in python? If there isn't such a list, could it be put on a
> wiki somewhere? The bit of sugar that I do know have helped me a lot in
> understanding the inner workings of python.

That kind of depends on what you mean by syntactic sugar. For instance, I
wouldn't call any of your examples syntactic sugar. The problem with
(e.g.) calling x[i] syntactic sugar for x.__getitem__(i) is that it gets
the relationship backwards: x[i] _is_ the syntax, it isn't the sugar.
Magic methods like __getitem__ are there as a mechanism to allow custom
classes to use the same syntax as built-in classes.

However, I would call these syntactic sugar:

"hello" " " "world" -> "hello world" # literal string concatenation

r'raw strings'

x[-n] -> x[len(x)-n]

x[:] -> x[0:len(x)]

print obj -> sys.stdout.write(str(obj) + '\n')

print obj, -> sys.stdout.write(str(obj))

s.find(target) -> 
try:
return s.index(target)
except IndexError:
return -1
# not really syntax, perhaps "method sugar" is a better name?

import a, b, c -> import a; import b; import c

raise Exception, string -> raise Exception(string)


Of course, one person's syntactic sugar is another person's essential
syntactic carbohydrates.



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Re: List of all syntactic sugar?

[Rene Pijlman]

Bas:
>just out of curiosity, is there a list of all the syntactic sugar that
>is used in python? 

http://docs.python.org/ref/specialnames.html

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List of all syntactic sugar?

[Bas]

Hi group,

just out of curiosity, is there a list of all the syntactic sugar that
is used in python? If there isn't such a list, could it be put on a
wiki somewhere? The bit of sugar that I do know have helped me a lot in
understanding the inner workings of python.

To give a few examples (might not be totally correct):

x[i] -> x.__getitem__(i)
x[a:b] -> x.__getitem__(slice(a,b,None))
x+y -> x._add__(y)
x.method(a) -> call (x.__dict__[method], self, a) ??
for i in x: f(i) -> it = iter(x); while True: i = it.next(); f(i) 
except stop: pass

TIA,
Bas

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