Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
kanzen wrote: I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will also be a simple web site allowing users to edit preferences and so forth. I have just enough Python experience to decide that I prefer it over Java for this job. It'll be on a Linux box that I have full control over. I can see from FAQs that there are several possible ways of doing web server work in Python, e.g. Twisted or mod_python in Apache, etc. So I'm wondering: - Could you recommend a solution you've found to be the most convenient? - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? - Is there anything similar to JSP in Java? Thanks, KanZen You might want to take a look a Medusa. It is the basis for the web server that is bundled in Zope. http://www.nightmare.com/medusa/ Larry Bates -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
Larry Bates wrote: [...] You might want to take a look a Medusa. It is the basis for the web server that is bundled in Zope. Medusa is just an asyncore framework, and not something you can develop web apps with. -- Gerhard -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
Okay, thanks for your suggestions. Are there any further recommendations as to what Python framework to use if the web server is Apache with mod_python? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
snip - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? snip Hello, From the python docs, it states that the threading design is loosely based upon the java module. Certainly, coming from Java I had little trouble getting used to python threading. However heres some gotchyas : - The thing to beware of there is something in Python called the GIL. Read up about that before you start threading stuff - this will explain to you why there is no volatile keyword - this got me confused at first. - There is no synchronize keyword, instead you have to use locks which can be obtained from the threading module - There are no methods such as wait on an object (there is an event object you can get to call wait upon - again threading) - The handy concurrent stuff which has been introduced in J2SE5.0 mainly isn't in python - through you do get Queues in Python (maybe more, I dunno?) The GIL thing makes it easier to do threading with Python (there are disadvantages to the GIL but I won't get into that here - if you're interested read through the history on this group) but it's still threading so beware! Cheers, Neil -- Neil Benn Senior Automation Engineer Cenix BioScience BioInnovations Zentrum Tatzberg 46 D-01307 Dresden Germany Tel : +49 (0)351 4173 154 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cenix Website : http://www.cenix-bioscience.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Lowest hassle Python web server?
I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will also be a simple web site allowing users to edit preferences and so forth. I have just enough Python experience to decide that I prefer it over Java for this job. It'll be on a Linux box that I have full control over. I can see from FAQs that there are several possible ways of doing web server work in Python, e.g. Twisted or mod_python in Apache, etc. So I'm wondering: - Could you recommend a solution you've found to be the most convenient? - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? - Is there anything similar to JSP in Java? Thanks, KanZen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
kanzen wrote: - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? What hassles have you had? I thought threads in Java were pretty straightforward. In any case, in Python they are generally very easy to use, provided you have a basic knowledge of thread safety issues and/or provided you restrict all interaction between threads to use the Queue module. - Is there anything similar to JSP in Java? Snakelets? Google will find it for you. -Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
kanzen wrote: I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will also be a simple web site allowing users to edit preferences and so forth. I have just enough Python experience to decide that I prefer it over Java for this job. It'll be on a Linux box that I have full control over. I can see from FAQs that there are several possible ways of doing web server work in Python, e.g. Twisted or mod_python in Apache, etc. So I'm wondering: - Could you recommend a solution you've found to be the most convenient? - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? - Is there anything similar to JSP in Java? Thanks, KanZen You can look into CherryPy http://www.cherrypy.org/ Hope this helps Adonis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lowest hassle Python web server?
kanzen wrote: I keep telling my friends that Python rocks. Now it's time to put my money where my mouth is. I'm about to start writing a server for a phone based game. It needs to handle simlpe requests from some Java code running on the phone at a fairly low transaction rate. There will also be a simple web site allowing users to edit preferences and so forth. I have just enough Python experience to decide that I prefer it over Java for this job. It'll be on a Linux box that I have full control over. I can see from FAQs that there are several possible ways of doing web server work in Python, e.g. Twisted or mod_python in Apache, etc. So I'm wondering: - Could you recommend a solution you've found to be the most convenient? I've tested a few, and when it finally came that I wanted and needed to do web application development in Python for real, I decided to use Snakelets. So far, I find it a very convenient way to write web applications. It's also very close to how Java servlets/JSP pages work. FWIW, the other frameworks I've tested thoroughly were Quixote and WebWare. - Does threading cause any more of a hassle in Python than Java? - Is there anything similar to JSP in Java? Snakelets Ypages come close to JSP. -- Gerhard -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
