Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
On 08/02/2008, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > >>> > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would > >>> > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. > > > > Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what does Cobra have to do > > with Microsoft? > > (Apart from being .NET oriented.) It seems it's an open source project > > of a guy who doesn't work for Microsoft. > > > Quite, Chuck Esterbrook is a long-time Python user. He was, IIRC, one of > the prime movers behind WebKit, which was a jolly good piece of software > for its time. I take my comments back then, and apologize to Chuck. My comments were directed at Microsoft based on that company's aggressive and often unethical business practices. They were made with no knowledge about the Cobra project other than that which was stated in the original email of this thread, which purported Cobra to be a Microsoft project. Microsoft has a very long way to go before regaining my respect, support, or money. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>> > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would >>> > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. > > Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what does Cobra have to do > with Microsoft? > (Apart from being .NET oriented.) It seems it's an open source project > of a guy who doesn't work for Microsoft. Quite, Chuck Esterbrook is a long-time Python user. He was, IIRC, one of the prime movers behind WebKit, which was a jolly good piece of software for its time. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
On 08/02/2008, Guilherme Polo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would > > > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. > > > > Looks like MS forgot E and E and went straight for E this time. > > I couldn't understand what you said, maybe that a E language doesnt > yet exist? It does: http://www.erights.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend%2C_and_extinguish In any case, I'm certain that only certain 'features' will work on Linux, or some terrible security bug will be found in the Linux version (because of a fault of Linux, no doubt). Almost certainly, the runtime environment will not be compatible with accepted licencing policies of popular Linux distributions, ensuring that said bug will never be fixed and will give MS lots of juicy FUD for smear campaigns. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
> > > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would > > > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but what does Cobra have to do with Microsoft? (Apart from being .NET oriented.) It seems it's an open source project of a guy who doesn't work for Microsoft. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
2008/2/7, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 08/02/2008, Peter Dilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would > > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. > > > Looks like MS forgot E and E and went straight for E this time. > I couldn't understand what you said, maybe that a E language doesnt yet exist? It does: http://www.erights.org/ > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- -- Guilherme H. Polo Goncalves -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
On 08/02/2008, Peter Dilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would > appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. Looks like MS forgot E and E and went straight for E this time. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft's challenger to Python
All the touted features and the integration with .Net and the friendly Visual Studio IDE will make it a fearsome adversary. And the name clearly suggests where it intends to harvest converts. Interesting times ahead. On 02/07/2008 06:07 PM, Peter Dilley wrote: Looks like Microsoft has a language aimed at taking all of Pythons strengths and attacking its weaknesses. Quoted as a compiled language that has optional dynamic binding. I've just started investigating the web site, but this is looking to shape up to a rather decent challenge to Python for an easy and expressive language with compiled performance on Mac OS X, Linux, and Windows. I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. Comparison to Python: http://cobra-language.com/docs/python/ Main Page: http://cobra-language.com/ Article that first caught my eye regarding Cobra: http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;342684174;fp;16;fpid;1 Cheers, Peter NOTA: La informacion de este correo es de propiedad exclusiva y confidencial. Este mensaje es solo para el destinatario indicado, si usted no lo es, destruyalo de inmediato. Ninguna informacion aqui contenida debe ser entendida como dada o avalada por MADISA, sus subsidiarias o sus empleados, salvo cuando ello expresamente se indique. Es responsabilidad de quien recibe este correo de asegurarse que este libre de virus, por lo tanto ni MADISA, sus subsidiarias ni sus empleados aceptan responsabilidad alguna. NOTE: The information in this email is proprietary and confidential. This message is for the designated recipient only, if you are not the intended recipient, you should destroy it immediately. Any information in this message shall not be understood as given or endorsed by MADISA, its subsidiaries or their employees, unless expressly so stated. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that this email is virus free, therefore neither MADISA, its subsidiaries nor their employees accept any responsibility. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Microsoft's challenger to Python
Looks like Microsoft has a language aimed at taking all of Pythons strengths and attacking its weaknesses. Quoted as a compiled language that has optional dynamic binding. I've just started investigating the web site, but this is looking to shape up to a rather decent challenge to Python for an easy and expressive language with compiled performance on Mac OS X, Linux, and Windows. I am not, however, an in depth language nutter, so would appreciate any of our more learned readers comments. Comparison to Python: http://cobra-language.com/docs/python/ Main Page: http://cobra-language.com/ Article that first caught my eye regarding Cobra: http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;342684174;fp;16;fpid;1 Cheers, Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
