Re: Missing DLL in win98
On 6/7/2010 8:15 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post... So it WAS obvious to anyone who was PAYING ATTENTION? That is not what I said, as indicated by a further line you snipped. I think Terry just wanted to be kind to you by not saying you're completely wrong. Yes, I was trying to gently educate. To put it plainer, it is the responsibility of question askers to make the question clear. If there is confusion, the asker should blame himself if anyone. Askers should, if saying anything, thank, not punish, anyone who responde with the intention of answering or helping. Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 6/4/2010 9:08 AM, Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. Christian So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew that? Get off your high horse. Dumping on volunteer helpers is a good way to drive them away. It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post, and even then it is not clear, that you *knew* than 2.6 was not supported on Win98. You could have asked 'I know 2.6+ is not officially supported in win98. Does anyone know a workaround other than upgrading windows or sticking with 2.5?". *That* would have been clear. Terry Jan Reedy I'm sorry, but if I asked where the nearest gas station was, I wouldn't expect someone to answer, "You can't get there because your out of gas." I had a specific question and I got a non-specific non-answer. If they didn't know, they should not have answered. It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post... So it WAS obvious to anyone who was PAYING ATTENTION? I think Terry just wanted to be kind to you by not saying you're completely wrong. Thing is, it was not obvious, enven for those who paid attention. Life is not a dress rehersal. If you don't get it right, things like the BP's oil spill, Chernobyl, and 3 mile island happen. Perhaps I'm being extreme, but computer programs underly our entire civilization today. Computers dump stock, and Billions are lost, needlessly affecting everyones life. Trains crash, boats sink, and psychos like me go off the deep end, because no-one is paying attention. L8r Spyder Funny :) You almost got a Godwin point ! JM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
Am 04.06.2010 14:38, schrieb Spyder42: I hope this is the right place to ask this, and appologise if it's not. I'm trying to install 2.6.5 in Win98 se final. It says "a required dll could not be run". Do I have to upgrade my whole OS just to install this, or is there a fix I can apply to 98 to make it work. There is no fix. IIUC, it (actually) complains about some symbols missing from kernel32.dll (perhaps in addition to some DLLs missing). Yes, you do have to upgrade your whole OS just to install this. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On 4 jun, 19:47, Spyder42 wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy > wrote: > >On 6/4/2010 9:08 AM, Spyder42 wrote: > >> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes > > >>> Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least > >>> Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. > >> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No > >> way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew > >> that? > > >It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post, and even > >then it is not clear, that you *knew* than 2.6 was not supported on > >Win98. You could have asked 'I know 2.6+ is not officially supported in > >win98. Does anyone know a workaround other than upgrading windows or > >sticking with 2.5?". *That* would have been clear. > > I had a specific question and I got a non-specific non-answer. > If they didn't know, they should not have answered. You didn't state your question as clearly as you appear to think. > >It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post... > > So it WAS obvious to anyone who was PAYING ATTENTION? It is not obvious to me at least, even after closely reading your post. All I can deduce from it is that you assumed you would have a better chance upgrading your OS, not that you *knew* your current OS was officially unsupported. Christian Heimes gave you the right answer, even if it was not the answer you expected. -- Gabriel Genellina -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:03:48 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: >On 6/4/2010 9:08 AM, Spyder42 wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes > >>> Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least >>> Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. >>> >>> Christian >> >> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No >> way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew >> that? > >Get off your high horse. Dumping on volunteer helpers is a good way to >drive them away. > >It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post, and even >then it is not clear, that you *knew* than 2.6 was not supported on >Win98. You could have asked 'I know 2.6+ is not officially supported in >win98. Does anyone know a workaround other than upgrading windows or >sticking with 2.5?". *That* would have been clear. > >Terry Jan Reedy > I'm sorry, but if I asked where the nearest gas station was, I wouldn't expect someone to answer, "You can't get there because your out of gas." I had a specific question and I got a non-specific non-answer. If they didn't know, they should not have answered. >It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post... So it WAS obvious to anyone who was PAYING ATTENTION? Life is not a dress rehersal. If you don't get it right, things like the BP's oil spill, Chernobyl, and 3 mile island happen. Perhaps I'm being extreme, but computer programs underly our entire civilization today. Computers dump stock, and Billions are lost, needlessly affecting everyones life. Trains crash, boats sink, and psychos like me go off the deep end, because no-one is paying attention. L8r Spyder -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On 6/4/2010 9:08 AM, Spyder42 wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. Christian So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew that? Get off your high horse. Dumping on volunteer helpers is a good way to drive them away. It was not obvious, without closely reading your original post, and even then it is not clear, that you *knew* than 2.6 was not supported on Win98. You could have asked 'I know 2.6+ is not officially supported in win98. Does anyone know a workaround other than upgrading windows or sticking with 2.5?". *That* would have been clear. Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On Jun 4, 8:53 am, Spyder42 wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:32:15 +0200, Christian Heimes > > wrote: > >> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No > >> way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew > >> that? > > >Let me paraphrase my answer: > > >You can't run Python 2.6 on Windows 98 because we have dropped support > >for any Windows older than Windows 2000 SP4. It's documented at > >http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html#port-specific-changes-windows, > >too. > > >Christian > > Yes, I get that. So your answer is... You have no idea as to weather > there is a workaround, or a fix, or patch or anything that would help. > right? I don't consider buying an OS to be a valid workaround. > > Thanks > Spyder Then the workaround is to use an older version of Python, or use a modern version of a free OS. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On Jun 4, 9:53 am, Spyder42 wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:32:15 +0200, Christian Heimes > > wrote: > >> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No > >> way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew > >> that? > > >Let me paraphrase my answer: > > >You can't run Python 2.6 on Windows 98 because we have dropped support > >for any Windows older than Windows 2000 SP4. It's documented at > >http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html#port-specific-changes-windows, > >too. > > >Christian > > Yes, I get that. So your answer is... You have no idea as to weather > there is a workaround, or a fix, or patch or anything that would help. > right? I don't consider buying an OS to be a valid workaround. > > Thanks > Spyder Correct. If you use Windows 98, you are stuck at the 2.5 series of Python. As far as I know (Christian might correct me) there is no fix or patch to allow otherwise. The usual volunteers that build the Windows version of Python don't care about the extra work of maintaining Windows 98 support anymore and nobody else has stepped forward to do it or to pay somebody to do so. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:32:15 +0200, Christian Heimes wrote: >> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No >> way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew >> that? > >Let me paraphrase my answer: > >You can't run Python 2.6 on Windows 98 because we have dropped support >for any Windows older than Windows 2000 SP4. It's documented at >http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html#port-specific-changes-windows , >too. > >Christian Yes, I get that. So your answer is... You have no idea as to weather there is a workaround, or a fix, or patch or anything that would help. right? I don't consider buying an OS to be a valid workaround. Thanks Spyder -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
> So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No > way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew > that? Let me paraphrase my answer: You can't run Python 2.6 on Windows 98 because we have dropped support for any Windows older than Windows 2000 SP4. It's documented at http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html#port-specific-changes-windows , too. Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:28 +0200, Christian Heimes wrote: > >Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least >Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. > >Christian So your response is either, you don't know if there is a fix, or 'No way in h377.' You couldn't figure out by my post that I already knew that? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Missing DLL in win98
Am 04.06.2010 14:38, schrieb Spyder42: > I hope this is the right place to ask this, and appologise if it's > not. I'm trying to install 2.6.5 in Win98 se final. It says "a > required dll could not be run". Do I have to upgrade my whole OS just > to install this, or is there a fix I can apply to 98 to make it work. > The installer doesn't say what dll is missing, just that it is. Python 2.6 is not supported on Windows 98 and earlier. You need at least Windows 2000 with a recent service pack. Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Missing DLL in win98
I hope this is the right place to ask this, and appologise if it's not. I'm trying to install 2.6.5 in Win98 se final. It says "a required dll could not be run". Do I have to upgrade my whole OS just to install this, or is there a fix I can apply to 98 to make it work. The installer doesn't say what dll is missing, just that it is. Thanks in advance. L8r Spyder -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
