Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
In article 183af5d2-e157-4cd6-bec6-8997809e1...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm thinking about buying one and seeing 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 directories on the model in the store made me wary. That's odd since, AFAIK, Apple has never released an OS X with Python 2.4. Current Apple systems ship with OS X 10.6, aka Snow Leopard. 10.6 includes a Python 2.6.1 (64-bit/32-bit) and a Python 2.5.4 (32-bit only). The previous release, 10.5, shipped with 2.5 and 2.3. But, not to worry, if you need other versions, you can download OS X installers from python.org. http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/http://www.python.org/ftp/pyth on/3.1.1/python-3.1.1.dmg This tells me nothing. That's the disk image for the OS X Python 3.1.1 installer. Official binary installers for OS X are provided on python.org for every final Python release. or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. http://www.macports.org/ The MacPorts Project is an open-source community initiative to design an easy-to-use system for compiling, installing, and upgrading either command-line, X11 or Aqua based open-source software on the Mac OS X operating system. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. http://www.macports.org/ The MacPorts Project is an open-source community initiative to design an easy-to-use system for compiling, installing, and upgrading either command-line, X11 or Aqua based open-source software on the Mac OS X operating system. Description sans marketing fluff: It's a Mac package manager. It's basically the same as Gentoo's portage if you've ever used that. It downloads source tarballs and patches and then compiles them locally. There are built-in lists of variants, basically sets of configure args, to compile each package. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 17, 4:33 am, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 183af5d2-e157-4cd6-bec6-8997809e1...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm thinking about buying one and seeing 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 directories on the model in the store made me wary. That's odd since, AFAIK, Apple has never released an OS X with Python 2.4. Hmm...I was poking around in the finder on a display of new iMacs at Best Buy last saturday. I searched for python and it took me to a directory listing with three items: Python 2.3 Python 2.4 Python 2.5 It's possible that Python 2.6 is located somewhere else. I assume that Snow Leopard was installed, but I didn't actually check that. Current Apple systems ship with OS X 10.6, aka Snow Leopard. 10.6 includes a Python 2.6.1 (64-bit/32-bit) and a Python 2.5.4 (32-bit only). The previous release, 10.5, shipped with 2.5 and 2.3. But, not to worry, if you need other versions, you can download OS X installers from python.org. http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/http://www.python.org/f... on/3.1.1/python-3.1.1.dmg This tells me nothing. That's the disk image for the OS X Python 3.1.1 installer. But it doesn't say whether that disk image is compatible with Snow Leopard and I don't take such things for granted. Official binary installers for OS X are provided on python.org for every final Python release. or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. http://www.macports.org/ The MacPorts Project is an open-source community initiative to design an easy-to-use system for compiling, installing, and upgrading either command-line, X11 or Aqua based open-source software on the Mac OS X operating system. Ok, now I know. Thanks for the information. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 17, 10:12 am, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. http://www.macports.org/ The MacPorts Project is an open-source community initiative to design an easy-to-use system for compiling, installing, and upgrading either command-line, X11 or Aqua based open-source software on the Mac OS X operating system. Description sans marketing fluff: It's a Mac package manager. It's basically the same as Gentoo's portage if you've ever used that. It downloads source tarballs and patches and then compiles them locally. There are built-in lists of variants, basically sets of configure args, to compile each package. That's the kind of thing I want to hear. Looks like I can go ahead and get a Mac and not worry about getting 3.1.1 installed. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 17, 1:40 am, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 16, 8:45 pm, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 88bab2c0-d27c-4081-a703-26b353b9e...@9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Why would you do that? Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm thinking about buying one and seeing 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 directories on the model in the store made me wary. http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/http://www.python.org/f... This tells me nothing. or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. He just told you what it meant, as if it weren't already obvious. Why would it be obvious? I use a PC, for which $ sudo port install python31 is meaningless. Is MacPorts bundled with Snow Leopard? Or do I have to do this first: MacPorts version 1.8.1 is available in various formats for download and installation (note, if you are upgrading your Mac OS X to a new major release, see the migration info page): “dmg” disk images for Snow Leopard, Leopard and Tiger as a legacy platform, containing pkg installers for use with the Mac OS X Installer. By far the simplest installation procedure that most users should follow after meeting the requirements listed below. In source form as either a tar.bz2 package or a tar.gz one for manual compilation, if you intend to customize your installation in any way. SVN checkout of the unpackaged sources, if you wish to follow MacPorts development. The selfupdate target of the port(1) command, for users who already have MacPorts installed and wish to upgrade to a newer release. Checksums for our packaged downloads are contained in the corresponding checksums file. Please note that in order to install and run MacPorts on Mac OS X, your system must have installations of the following components: Apple's Xcode Developer Tools (version 3.2.1 or later for Snow Leopard, 3.1.4 or later for Leopard, or 2.5 for Tiger), found at the Apple Developer Connection site or on your Mac OS X installation CDs/ DVD. Ensure that the optional components for command line development are installed (Unix Development in the Xcode 3.x installer). The X11 windowing environment (A.K.A. “X11 User”) for ports that depend on the functionality it provides to run. The “X11 User” package is an optional installation on your system CDs/ DVD for Tiger, enabled through the “Customize” button of the installer, whereas it is included by default on Leopard and Snow Leopard. You can use the xorg-server port instead of Apple's X11.app if you wish. Geremy Condra -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
In article b0b60848-9a66-4f84-ab89-d84ea3904...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: That's the disk image for the OS X Python 3.1.1 installer. But it doesn't say whether that disk image is compatible with Snow Leopard and I don't take such things for granted. That's a good point. There should be stated there somewhere about which operating systems are supported. For the record, 3.1.1 has been tested on 10.4, 10.5, and 10.6 and should work on 10.3.9. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
* Alf P. Steinbach: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Well, what's a programming introduction without Lena Söderberg and Blaise Pascal -- the beauty the beast? :-) So I added them. Examples with some Sierpinsky triangles (from Pascal's triangle) and simple photo processing (of Lena). With Lena, Josephus and Blaise in the examples it's almost like the Good, the Bad and the Ugly... Comments very welcome. Especially, from the Python community, I'm pretty sure that there must be more Pythonic ways of copying things like my Matrix in section 2.7.7, or conventions established for that. Although Python details aren't essential -- since this is about programming and so far only about concepts, notwithstanding the photo processing not yet delving into actually technical stuff -- it would be Bad to teach very inferior ways of using the language. So, Better Ways (considering that I've endavoured to introduce only a minimal subset of the language in order to teach concepts cleanly!) would be good! Current contents listing below (it's now also as PDF on Google Docs). Cheers, - Alf Contents: 1 Getting started ... 1 1.1 Python variants, implementations and distributions. 1 1.2 Download and install a Python implementation. 2 1.3 Test-drive the Python interpreter. 2 1.4 Create and run a Python console program. 4 1.5 Syntax highlighting and programmers’ editors. 6 1.6 Create and run a Python GUI program. 7 1.7 About compilation. 9 1.8 About standalone Windows programs other kinds. 10 1.9 Browse the local documentation. 11 – EOT – ... 12 2 Basic concepts ... 1 2.1 Super-basic concept: why programming is not DWIM. 1 2.2 Reported errors. 4 2.2.1 Case-sensitivity. 4 2.2.2 Syntax / compilation errors. 4 2.2.3 Runtime errors / crashes. 5 2.3 A programming exploration tool: turtle graphics. 6 2.4 Naming things. 8 2.4.1 Naming actions: routines. 8 2.4.2 Naming data part I: variables. 11 2.4.3 Naming data part II: routine arguments. 13 2.5 Controlling the flow of execution. 14 2.5.1 Repeating actions automatically: loops. 14 2.5.2 Basic comparisions boolean values. 16 2.5.3 Interlude I: a function graph program / about types. 17 2.5.4 Automated action choices. 21 2.5.5 Value-producing (function-like) routines. 23 2.5.6 Interlude II: a graph with zeroes marked / about program structure. 26 2.5.7 Dynamically nested actions: recursive routines. 28 2.6 Basic data. 36 2.6.1 Basic fundamental types / strings concatenation. 36 2.6.2 Indexing and single characters (+ vaguely about sequences in general). 39 2.6.3 Interlude III: a ROT-13 encryption/decryption program, refactoring. 40 2.6.4 Attributes, methods, objects. 43 2.6.5 Doc strings. 44 2.6.6 Interlude IV: attribute names as strings, listing str attributes. 45 2.6.7 References automatic garbage collection. 46 2.7 Programs as simulations / handling data. 51 2.7.1 Real system, model, user illusion. 51 2.7.2 Scopes – global versus local variables. 53 2.7.3 Attribute collections models with accessor and modifier routines. 57 2.7.4 Defining your own data types: classes. 63 2.7.5 Using optional and named actual arguments (Python “keyword” arguments). 68 2.7.6 Interlude V: a GUI light switch simulation (+ about delegates and MVC). 71 2.7.7 Indexable collections (arrays). 84 – EOT – ... 98 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 14, 1:23 am, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url:http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? Sure. After all, Idiot's Guide to Programming and Programming for Dummies are probably already taken, albeit more appropriate. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 16, 4:41 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 14, 1:23 am, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url:http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? Sure. After all, Idiot's Guide to Programming and Programming for Dummies are probably already taken, albeit more appropriate Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
* Mensanator: On Dec 16, 4:41 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 14, 1:23 am, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url:http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? Sure. After all, Idiot's Guide to Programming and Programming for Dummies are probably already taken, albeit more appropriate Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Learn to read. At the top of every second page it tells you that this is an introduction based on Windows. Cheers hth., - Alf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 16, 5:45 pm, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Mensanator: On Dec 16, 4:41 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 14, 1:23 am, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url:http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? Sure. After all, Idiot's Guide to Programming and Programming for Dummies are probably already taken, albeit more appropriate Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Learn to read. At the top of every second page it tells you that this is an introduction based on Windows. Still, no excuse for giving out mis-information. It's just as easy to get these things right. Cheers hth., - Alf- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
In article 88bab2c0-d27c-4081-a703-26b353b9e...@9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Why would you do that? http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/ http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.1.1/python-3.1.1.dmg or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
* Mensanator: On Dec 16, 5:45 pm, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Mensanator: On Dec 16, 4:41 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 14, 1:23 am, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: * Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url:http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? Sure. After all, Idiot's Guide to Programming and Programming for Dummies are probably already taken, albeit more appropriate Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Learn to read. At the top of every second page it tells you that this is an introduction based on Windows. Still, no excuse for giving out mis-information. It's just as easy to get these things right. Why are you not concrete? I'd be glad to hear of any concrete mis-information or inaccuracy; that's much of the point of asking for public feedback (did you even think about that?). Unfortunately one then also get responses from trolls, small kids, idiots, etc.. Cheers, - Alf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
In hgcf1d$5g...@news.eternal-september.org, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Mensanator: On Dec 16, 5:45 pm, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no wrote: snip Learn to read. At the top of every second page it tells you that this is an introduction based on Windows. Still, no excuse for giving out mis-information. It's just as easy to get these things right. Why are you not concrete? I'd be glad to hear of any concrete mis-information or inaccuracy; that's much of the point of asking for public feedback (did you even think about that?). Unfortunately one then also get responses from trolls, small kids, idiots, etc.. In my experience, mensanator doesn't usually behave trollishly. Perhaps he's just rubbing you up the wrong way accidentally. It might be worth it for both you guys to chill a little, and cut each other some slack. -- Richard Heathfield http://www.cpax.org.uk Email: -http://www. +rjh@ Usenet is a strange place - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line vacant - apply within -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Dec 16, 8:45�pm, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 88bab2c0-d27c-4081-a703-26b353b9e...@9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, �Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Why would you do that? Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm thinking about buying one and seeing 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 directories on the model in the store made me wary. http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.1.1/python-3.1.1.dmg This tells me nothing. or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. -- �Ned Deily, �n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: On Dec 16, 8:45�pm, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 88bab2c0-d27c-4081-a703-26b353b9e...@9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, �Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote: Oh, and about Chapter 1. If you're going to use version 3.1.1 as your standard, shouldn't you also point out that 3.1.1 is NOT bundled with Mac OS X? How about devoting a section on downloading the source files and compiling it on a Mac? Why would you do that? Oh, I don't know, maybe because I'm thinking about buying one and seeing 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 directories on the model in the store made me wary. http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.1.1/http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.1.1/python-3.1.1.dmg This tells me nothing. or (for MacPorts fans): $ sudo port install python31 And since I haven't got one, this also tells me nothing. He just told you what it meant, as if it weren't already obvious. Geremy Condra -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
* Alf P. Steinbach: Format: PDF url: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! Well, I posted the current doc. It has a not yet quite complete section 2.7.7 about arrays, and that will be the last subsection of the chapter. I thought using the Josephus circle problem as example was pretty neat... :-) But anyway, comments welcome, even if that last section's not yet finished. Cheers, - Alf PS: Oh, I changed the manuscript title to Intelligent Person's Intro to Programming -- is that good? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
More stuff added to ch 2 of my programming intro
Format: PDF url: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3 The new stuff, section 2.7, is about programs as simulations and handling data, focusing on modeling things. It includes some Python GUI programming. The plan is to discuss containers like lists and dictionaries in perhaps two more subsections of 2.7, but I'm not quite sure about how to approach that or exactly how much to cover, since the intent of ch 2 is to introduce mostly general concepts and enable the reader to try out (more or less) interesting things. Cheers, - Alf PS: comments welcome! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
