Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Peter Otten wrote:
and now typing e. g.
 pym os.path
 in the address bar immediately brings up that module's documentation.
 
 Peter


Nice one! Thanks.

S

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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-03 Thread Peter Otten
Joal Heagney wrote:

 If you're using KDE, you can set a bookmark in konqueror to the
 documentation and it'll bring it up in the bookmark toolbar. Only hassle
 is when you update python and the docs, you have to edit the bookmark.

Or you can bookmark a symlink to the documentation and bookmark that.
Another goodie are Konqueror's web shortcuts. I added one with the
URI file:/path_to_python_docs/lib/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
and the shortcut pym, and now typing e. g.

pym os.path

in the address bar immediately brings up that module's documentation.

Peter

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Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Edward Diener
What is the name of the IDLE program on Linux and where is it installed 
in a normal Linux distribution ? I have installed all the Python 2.3.5 
RPMs on my Fedora 3 system but I have no idea where they are installed 
or what IDLE is called. I lloked in the Python web pages to try to find 
a list of the files in the various installations, but was unable to find 
the information.
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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Jim Benson
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Edward Diener wrote:

 What is the name of the IDLE program on Linux and where is it installed 
 in a normal Linux distribution ? I have installed all the Python 2.3.5 
 RPMs on my Fedora 3 system but I have no idea where they are installed 
 or what IDLE is called. I lloked in the Python web pages to try to find 
 a list of the files in the various installations, but was unable to find 
 the information.
 

Try idle (all lower case). 
On my RH-9 system it is in /usr/local/bin

HTH.

Jim


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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Edward Diener
Jim Benson wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Edward Diener wrote:

What is the name of the IDLE program on Linux and where is it installed 
in a normal Linux distribution ? I have installed all the Python 2.3.5 
RPMs on my Fedora 3 system but I have no idea where they are installed 
or what IDLE is called. I lloked in the Python web pages to try to find 
a list of the files in the various installations, but was unable to find 
the information.


Try idle (all lower case). 
On my RH-9 system it is in /usr/local/bin
Thanks. The system came with Python and the development libraries but 
not with the latest installation and tools. Once I was able to install 
all the latest Python RPM for Fedora 3, 'idle' showed up. Now all I have 
to do is find everything else, including the latest documentation files. 
It is a pity the Python Linux binary installations do not create folders 
on the desktop or in the Gnome menu system with links to the Python to 
the documentation and a readme telling me what executables were installed.
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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Thomas Rast
Edward Diener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It is a pity the Python Linux binary installations do not
 create folders on the desktop or in the Gnome menu system with links
 to the Python to the documentation and a readme telling me what
 executables were installed.

Imagine they did, and the other 1392 packages (on my system) too :-)

Documentation usually resides in /usr/share/doc/package,
/usr/share/doc/packages/package or similiar.  You're on an RPM-based
system, so

$ rpm -ql package

lists all files belonging to that package.  You should have little
trouble spotting the documentation files there.

- Thomas

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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Edward Diener
Thomas Rast wrote:
 Edward Diener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It is a pity the Python Linux binary installations do not
 create folders on the desktop or in the Gnome menu system with links
 to the Python to the documentation and a readme telling me what
 executables were installed.

 Imagine they did, and the other 1392 packages (on my system) too :-)

I can understand that g. But I would rather have links somewhere than not
know what it was a particular package does and how to use it. As a relative
Linux newbie, I have found it disconcerting to have things installed on my
system when I first booted the system or when I install new packages or
upgrade existing ones, and not know what these packages are used for. One
can always delete links, and they are cheap, so I would rather have too much
to begin with than too little.


 Documentation usually resides in /usr/share/doc/package,
 /usr/share/doc/packages/package or similiar.  You're on an RPM-based
 system, so

 $ rpm -ql package

 lists all files belonging to that package.  You should have little
 trouble spotting the documentation files there.

Thanks. That does help.


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Re: Name of IDLE on Linux

2005-04-02 Thread Joal Heagney
Edward Diener wrote:
Thomas Rast wrote:
Edward Diener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It is a pity the Python Linux binary installations do not
create folders on the desktop or in the Gnome menu system with links
to the Python to the documentation and a readme telling me what
executables were installed.
Imagine they did, and the other 1392 packages (on my system) too :-)

I can understand that g. But I would rather have links somewhere than not
know what it was a particular package does and how to use it. As a relative
Linux newbie, I have found it disconcerting to have things installed on my
system when I first booted the system or when I install new packages or
upgrade existing ones, and not know what these packages are used for. One
can always delete links, and they are cheap, so I would rather have too much
to begin with than too little.

Documentation usually resides in /usr/share/doc/package,
/usr/share/doc/packages/package or similiar.  You're on an RPM-based
system, so
$ rpm -ql package
lists all files belonging to that package.  You should have little
trouble spotting the documentation files there.

Thanks. That does help.

As a relative linux newbie (Aren't we all? I've been using linux for 7 
years now, and the only thing that has happened is that my definition of 
newbie has stretched.), you might find the following useful.

If you're using KDE, you can set a bookmark in konqueror to the 
documentation and it'll bring it up in the bookmark toolbar. Only hassle 
is when you update python and the docs, you have to edit the bookmark.

Another approach is to type in /usr/share/doc/py into the konqueror URL 
and it'll pop up a list of folders containing python documentation.

Joal
PS: DON'T add a general bookmark to /usr/share/doc
I did that when I was beginning, and every time I went document hunting, 
I'd have to wait a good minute and a half for konqueror to display all 
the folders in this directory.
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