Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-09 Thread dn via Python-list
On 10/03/2021 13.47, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:57:52 -0600, Sam  declaimed the
> following:
> 
>> On 3/8/21 3:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM D'Arcy Cain  wrote:

 On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote:
> Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially
> with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other
> things, is that method or the lure used.

 You are confusing "troll" with "trawl"

>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)
>>>
>>> ChrisA
>>
>>
>> If you teach a man to fish
> 
> ... he takes up residence under a bridge and becomes a troll... making it a
> troll bridge 


So, if you teach him to surf-cast

... he becomes the Mayor of Casterbridge?

An (old) book which includes:
- unexplainable behavior/drunkenness
- not being able to live-down one's past
- the future not turning-out quite as hoped
- banishment and self-banishment
- and a protagonist whose Last Will and Testament read:
"That Elizabeth-Jane Farfrae be not told of my death, or made to grieve
on account of me. that I be not bury'd in consecrated ground. that no
sexton be asked to toll the bell. that nobody is wished to see my dead
body. that no murners walk behind me at my funeral. that no flours be
planted on my grave, that no man remember me."

RiP - and this thread also!
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Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-09 Thread Sam

On 3/8/21 3:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM D'Arcy Cain  wrote:


On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote:

Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially
with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other
things, is that method or the lure used.


You are confusing "troll" with "trawl"



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

ChrisA




If you teach a man to fish

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Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-08, D'Arcy Cain  wrote:
> On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote:
>> Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially 
>> with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other 
>> things, is that method or the lure used.
>
> You are confusing "troll" with "trawl"

No, he's not.

Trolling is dragging a lure through the water with a boat (usually a
smallish one).

  https://www.minnkotamotors.com/learn/buying-guide/trolling-motors

Trawling is dragging a net through the water with a boat (usually a
rather large one).

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_trawler

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Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:31 AM D'Arcy Cain  wrote:
>
> On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote:
> > Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially
> > with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other
> > things, is that method or the lure used.
>
> You are confusing "troll" with "trawl"
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

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Re: Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-08 Thread D'Arcy Cain

On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote:
Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially 
with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other 
things, is that method or the lure used.


You are confusing "troll" with "trawl"

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Please don't feed the trolls

2021-03-07 Thread Terry Reedy
Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially 
with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other 
things, is that method or the lure used.


On the internet, 'troll' is used metaphorically.  A troll is a flashy 
post designed to catch peoples emotions and hook them into responding. 
Trolling is posting such posts.  People do this either out of compulsion 
or for entertainment.


Quite separately, a troll in Scandinavian folklore is an unpleasant 
mythical creature living in a cave, or perhaps under or around a bridge. 
Bridge trolls are reputed to disrupt communication by travel.


Fishermen would not call a person trolling for fish a troll.  It would 
be an insult.  On the internet, we do call people trolling trolls, again 
methphorically, because they disrupt communication.


The proper response to trolls is to not feed them by responding as they 
wish.  When people respond, they continue trolling, and a moderator has 
to ban them.


People reading python-list posts on google groups or comp.lang.python 
should not help them evade their bans by quoting them.


On 3/6/2021 2:11 PM, Bonita Montero, responding to a banned troll for at 
least a third time:



Someone who says that he is capable of writing a compiler that
translates every language has megalomania. No one can do this.


We certainly need not believe so until it is done.

But we do not know whether X is an actual megalomaniac acting like a 
troll or an actual troll acting like a megalomaniac.  The same can apply 
to any other character type that can lead to trolling or be assumed as a 
pose by a troll.


In Spanish, bonito/a means a pretty male/female.  By coincidence, it is 
also a tuna-like fish caught by trolling.  (Decades ago, my father 
caught one on a boat one a Mexican river/lagoon.)  Please unhook 
yourself and swim away.



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