Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would like to thank all of you. For what I've read, I'll be using python instead of Php. Luis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC5RQ5Hn4UHCY8rB8RAi3QAKCuU3tgluOZXktbseUmq5d6WpyGCgCfWTCK hKweHnSkvEm/QLKwMw4uP2A= =6asH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
Luis P. Mendes a écrit : (snip) I need to build it from the server and also client side. For the client side I'll be using Python. But for the server side, I would like to hear some opinions. Is it worth learning Php? I dont think so - unless you have no other choice !-) More seriously, Python is at least as good (much better IMHO...) as PHP for web applications, and the only thing (the only I can think of...) that's really easier to do with PHP is to write unmaintainable code with all logic and presention mixed up, global variables coming from outer space, etc... Another point is that, since you'll need to implement your domain model in Python for the client app anyway, duplicating it in PHP would not only be a waste of time, but also lead to a maintence nightmare. Using Python on both the client and server side, you'll just have to write specific controllers and views for the web application. A last thing is that PostgreSQL supports Python as an extension language. My 2 cents... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
Hi, I don't know anything about PHP and I'm initiating right now with PostgreSQL. Could someone tell me the pros and cons of assessing the PostgreSQL databases with Python vs. PHP? I will need to build a database that has to be assessed by a dozen clients via a web page in an intranet (possibly from outside, too). Is Python more used on the client side and PHP on the server side? I now Python, although I'm far from being an expert. Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
To be honest, this is a pretty open-ended question. Are there specific issues (SQL injection/security, minimizing db connections, simplest code, etc, your'e concerned with?) To be more honest, googline Python vs. PHP raises lots of hits http://wiki.w4py.org/pythonvsphp.html http://www.redcor.ch/wikis/semi_intern/BasicReferenceOfMoreLanguages -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
ok, to make this less open-ended, you should mention what O/S and web server you have in mind, whether the web and DB servers will be under your admin (big diff betw python and PHP, as far as finding shared server accounts at web hosts), what kinds of queries, concurrent read/write volumes, transactions, dirtiness, etc. etc Also if you build your questions to this newsgroup on past threads you've read, you will get absolute superb information, I guarantee it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
gene tani wrote: To be honest, this is a pretty open-ended question. Are there specific issues (SQL injection/security, minimizing db connections, simplest code, etc, your'e concerned with?) Simplest code with be an important factor, since the db will be used far from max capabilities. Ease of use of the web page by clients is also a main factor. I need to build it from the server and also client side. For the client side I'll be using Python. But for the server side, I would like to hear some opinions. Is it worth learning Php? To be more honest, googline Python vs. PHP raises lots of hits http://wiki.w4py.org/pythonvsphp.html nice link :-) Thank you, Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
gene tani wrote: ok, to make this less open-ended, you should mention what O/S and web server you have in mind, whether the web and DB servers will be under your admin (big diff betw python and PHP, as far as finding shared server accounts at web hosts), what kinds of queries, concurrent read/write volumes, transactions, dirtiness, etc. etc Also if you build your questions to this newsgroup on past threads you've read, you will get absolute superb information, I guarantee it. I'll be using Apache, under Linux. The db server will be under my admin. A dozen clients acessing the db. For the first project: Three or four of them will be using queries mainly from three tables with: table 1: 350 lines x 20 cols table 2: 350 lines x 6 cols table 3: 4200 lines x 5 cols as an estimate. Other clients will be very light users but need easy web interface for mouse clicks only. Thank you for your support and excuse me for my ignorance, but I'm starting the project and would like to start it in the right direction. Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PostgreSQL Python vs PHP
Luis P. Mendes wrote: I need to build it from the server and also client side. For the client side I'll be using Python. But for the server side, I would like to hear some opinions. Is it worth learning Php? If you know Python and don't know PHP, there's little benefit from spending the time learning it. But, PHP is extremely simple to work with and you can produce results VERY quickly. Part of the reason is that it's already intended to be a web-embedded language and doesn't reqire additonal frameworks, libraries or configuration like Python does. One thing that botheres me when using Python in php-like way is that the indentation is significant property becomes a nuisance when you intertwine HTML and code (which you shouldn't be doing anyway ;) ). The benefit of Python is that is a much cleaner language with well defined interfaces and you'll probably maintain a large application easier if it's in Python. There are no significant performance differences, and no really significant differences in programming approach. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list