Fwd: Re: Problems installing Python on server
Also be careful and setup all the paths that is required for compiling various Python modules etc. On Jan 29, 8:28 am, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. Go to the ReadME file after you unpack python. Open and look for Installing. Read the section, it explains how to install on the entire system and how to install locally. Make altinstall is what you are looking for. jim-on-linux http:\\www.inqvista.com The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? Will the make install make my Python the default one? If I want to install some Python modules, will I need to alter their installation as well or will it see my Python version as the right one to install too? Cheers. --- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Fwd: Re: Problems installing Python on server
jim-on-linux wrote: Also be careful and setup all the paths that is required for compiling various Python modules etc. On Jan 29, 8:28 am, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. Go to the ReadME file after you unpack python. Open and look for Installing. Read the section, it explains how to install on the entire system and how to install locally. Make altinstall is what you are looking for. jim-on-linux http:\\www.inqvista.com The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? Will the make install make my Python the default one? If I want to install some Python modules, will I need to alter their installation as well or will it see my Python version as the right one to install too? The default one? That's just the one that runs when a user enters the python command, right? make install will install Python wherever you told the configure utility to build it for. make altinstall is a convenience method that (IIRC) builds for /usr/local/bin. Generally speaking when you install an extension or other module, nowadays you use the command python setup.py install The installation takes place in whichever copy of Python runs setup.py, so with a default /usr/bin/python and an alternate /usr/local/bin/python, to install a module in the alternate you would run /usr/local/bin/python setup.py install The same is true of a Python you have installed somewhere under your home directory. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Fwd: Re: Problems installing Python on server
On Thursday 31 January 2008 09:46, jim-on-linux wrote: Also be careful and setup all the paths that is required for compiling various Python modules etc. On Jan 29, 8:28 am, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. Go to the ReadME file after you unpack python. Open and look for Installing. Read the section, it explains how to install on the entire system and how to install locally. Make altinstall is what you are looking for. jim-on-linux http:\\www.inqvista.com The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? Will the make install make my Python the default one? If I want to install some Python modules, will I need to alter their installation as well or will it see my Python version as the right one to install too? Cheers. From the Readme file enclose with Python; -- If you have a previous installation of Python that you don't want to replace yet, use make altinstall This installs the same set of files as make install except it doesn't create the hard link to pythonversion named python and it doesn't install the manual page at all. -- I installed python 2.5 using make altinstall by going to /usr/local/lib unpacking, then using make altinstall Folder 2.5 is created. To add modules, as I have added PIL to my system, I go to; /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages where I installed PIL. installing a py module in the site-packages folder is where I would install any package unless otherwise directed. When upgrading you can go to the site directory and see what's in there, and what has to be added to a new upgrade. http:\\www.inqvista.com jim-on-linux -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problems installing Python on server
On 28 Jan, 22:28, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. Which version are they running, by the way? There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. This sounds like reasonable advice, I suppose. The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I think that the su root stuff is just there in anticipation of people trying to configure, build and install Python without thinking too hard about it and then finding that they get lots of errors about installing into places they don't have permissions for. If you're installing into a different location, you only need to have permissions to write to that location. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? If you have shell access on the hosting service and they have compilers available, you can just do the build and install there. Building on your own computer and having the executable work on the server is likely to be more difficult due to the usual library versioning issues that arise between distributions - it'd be interesting to see if anyone can suggest a solution for this involving the LSB tools. So how can I build Python without root access? Something like this: mkdir /home/youraccount/apps # optional - see below ./configure --prefix=/home/youraccount/apps make make install Here, the apps directory in your home directory will contain the usual UNIX directory structure that you would otherwise see in /usr: directories such as bin, lib, share (probably), and so on. You'll find the python executable as /home/youraccount/apps/bin/python. Some people like to mimic the full UNIX structure and have a usr directory (either underneath or instead of the apps directory employed above); others prefer to have the bin, lib (and other directories) in their home directory (thus omitting the apps directory); you get to choose. ;-) I hope this helps! Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problems installing Python on server
On Tuesday 29 January 2008 01:20, Devraj wrote: Also be careful and setup all the paths that is required for compiling various Python modules etc. On Jan 29, 8:28 am, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. Go to the ReadME file after you unpack python. Open and look for Installing. Read the section, it explains how to install on the entire system and how to install locally. Make altinstall is what you are looking for. jim-on-linux http:\\www.inqvista.com The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Problems installing Python on server
I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problems installing Python on server
On 28 jan, 22:28, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. This is the default install. You want to have a look at the ./ configure flags (doing ./configure --help) and set the right options for your custom install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. You don't need root access to install in your own home directory - this is only needed to do a system wide install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? Indeed So how can I build Python without root access? cf above : type ./configure --help, read on, set appropriate options, and proceed !-) HTH -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problems installing Python on server
Also be careful and setup all the paths that is required for compiling various Python modules etc. On Jan 29, 8:28 am, Yansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked my hosting company if they would upgrade Python on my server to the latest version. They responded with: Sorry no. We tend to stick with what comes packaged with the unix distribution to ease maintenance issues. There is nothing stopping you from running your own version of python from within your own account. Download the source and compile it and install it into your own space. Adjust the fist line of your python scripts to reflect the location of YOUR python binary: #! /home/youraccount/yourlibs/python and you should be all set. The build instructions for Python are: To start building right away (on UNIX): type ./configure in the current directory and when it finishes, type make. This creates an executable ./python; to install in usr/local, first do su root and then make install. The problem is, I don't have root access to the server so I can't do the make install. I have ubuntu on my computer, but from what I understand I can't compile it on that and upload it because the server runs Red Had and the ./configure would have made it incompatible right? So how can I build Python without root access? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
