Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-30 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Cameron Laird a écrit :

 
 Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21e80ac383745d88?#21e80ac383745d88
 

This one really deserves a POTM award !-)
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Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-30 Thread Jon Clements
On Nov 24, 8:21 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
bdesth.quelquech...@free.quelquepart.fr wrote:
 Cameron Laird a écrit :



      Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)
         
  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21...

 This one really deserves a POTM award !-)

Absolutely -- thumbs up to Grant.

All we need to do is merge in the other bullet points, and put it as a
How-To-Not-Post-FAQ :)

Jon.
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Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW:  ... it's generally accepted that COM sucks rocks through straws, so
explore alternatives when they're available ;-) - Chris Withers
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/29577c851ceed167


From nothing to a complete working program - Peter Otten on stepwise
refinement:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/f6f44b646af5b09e/8f59b2585da524a1?#8f59b2585da524a1

Handling whitespace in command line arguments:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/9a828279953b45a2/

Recognizing hex arguments in the command line:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/31d4c9386291c/

A pipeline of Python programs:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/cc06520602ae3f42/

Calling Python functions from Excel
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/83aa60666c555d87/

The scope of interactive commands:   =20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3f0d7607ed5a4a78/

List comprehensions and slice assignments - which are the corresponding
operations for dictionaries?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/7aa443ac48f58851/

The precise semantics of [:]=20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/84b5ec30cdd26cde/

The 'with' statement doesn't allow () for implicit line continuation:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/645508

Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21e80ac383745d88?#21e80ac383745d88

Finding the root cause of slowness when sorting certain objects:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/44d80224360e085/

The fastest alternative to list.extend()
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/614bfc36a09d9ab7/

A library for bijective mappings:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/785d100681f7d101/

GUI builders reviewed:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3db5b18d77974b8/

A long thread started two weeks ago: is Python not scalable enough for
Google?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/ceef2ae6b4472b61/



Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in
these pages:

Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html

PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
marvelous daily python url
 http://www.pythonware.com/daily

Just beginning with Python?  This page is a great place to start:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python enthusiasts:
http://pythonpapers.org/
The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python:
http://pythonmagazine.com

Readers have recommended the Planet site:
http://planet.python.org

comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software.  Be
sure to scan this newsgroup weekly.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python.announce/topics

Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ...
Updates appear more-than-weekly:
http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html

The Python Package Index catalogues packages.
http://www.python.org/pypi/

Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/

Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line
match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're
subject with a vision of what the language makes practical.
http://www.pythonology.com/success

The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python
Consortium as an independent nexus of activity.  It has official
responsibility for Python's development and maintenance.
http://www.python.org/psf/
Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation.
http://www.python.org/psf/donations/

The Summary of Python Tracker Issues is an automatically generated
report summarizing new bugs, closed ones, and patch submissions. 

http://search.gmane.org/?author=status%40bugs.python.orggroup=gmane.comp.python.develsort=date

Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python
hyperlinks retains a few gems.
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html

Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/

The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and
interesting recipes.
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

Many 

Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-24 Thread Cameron Laird
QOTW:  ... it's generally accepted that COM sucks rocks through
straws, so
explore alternatives when they're available ;-) - Chris Withers
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/29577c851ceed167


From nothing to a complete working program - Peter Otten on
stepwise
refinement:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/f6f44b646af5b09e/8f59b2585da524a1?#8f59b2585da524a1

Handling whitespace in command line arguments:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/9a828279953b45a2/

Recognizing hex arguments in the command line:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/31d4c9386291c/

A pipeline of Python programs:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/cc06520602ae3f42/

Calling Python functions from Excel
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/83aa60666c555d87/

The scope of interactive commands:   =20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3f0d7607ed5a4a78/

List comprehensions and slice assignments - which are the
corresponding
operations for dictionaries?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/7aa443ac48f58851/

The precise semantics of [:]=20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/84b5ec30cdd26cde/

The 'with' statement doesn't allow () for implicit line
continuation:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/645508

Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21e80ac383745d88?#21e80ac383745d88

Finding the root cause of slowness when sorting certain objects:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/44d80224360e085/

The fastest alternative to list.extend()
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/614bfc36a09d9ab7/

A library for bijective mappings:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/785d100681f7d101/

GUI builders reviewed:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3db5b18d77974b8/

A long thread started two weeks ago: is Python not scalable enough
for
Google?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/ceef2ae6b4472b61/



Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away
in
these pages:

Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html

PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
marvelous daily python url
 http://www.pythonware.com/daily

Just beginning with Python?  This page is a great place to start:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python
enthusiasts:
http://pythonpapers.org/
The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python:
http://pythonmagazine.com

Readers have recommended the Planet site:
http://planet.python.org

comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software.  Be
sure to scan this newsgroup weekly.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python.announce/topics

Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ...
Updates appear more-than-weekly:
http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html

The Python Package Index catalogues packages.
http://www.python.org/pypi/

Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/

Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line
match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're
subject with a vision of what the language makes practical.
http://www.pythonology.com/success

The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python
Consortium as an independent nexus of activity.  It has official
responsibility for Python's development and maintenance.
http://www.python.org/psf/
Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation.
http://www.python.org/psf/donations/

The Summary of Python Tracker Issues is an automatically generated
report summarizing new bugs, closed ones, and patch submissions.
http://search.gmane.org/?author=status%40bugs.python.orggroup=gmane.com
p.python.develsort=date

Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python
hyperlinks retains a few gems.
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html

Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/

The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and
interesting recipes.
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

Many Python conferences around the world are in preparation.
Watch this 

Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW:  ... it's generally accepted that COM sucks rocks through straws, so
explore alternatives when they're available ;-) - Chris Withers
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/29577c851ceed167


From nothing to a complete working program - Peter Otten on stepwise
refinement:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/f6f44b646af5b09e/8f59b2585da524a1?#8f59b2585da524a1

Handling whitespace in command line arguments:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/9a828279953b45a2/

Recognizing hex arguments in the command line:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/31d4c9386291c/

A pipeline of Python programs:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/cc06520602ae3f42/

Calling Python functions from Excel
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/83aa60666c555d87/

The scope of interactive commands:   =20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3f0d7607ed5a4a78/

List comprehensions and slice assignments - which are the corresponding
operations for dictionaries?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/7aa443ac48f58851/

The precise semantics of [:]=20
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/84b5ec30cdd26cde/

The 'with' statement doesn't allow () for implicit line continuation:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/645508

Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21e80ac383745d88?#21e80ac383745d88

Finding the root cause of slowness when sorting certain objects:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/44d80224360e085/

The fastest alternative to list.extend()
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/614bfc36a09d9ab7/

A library for bijective mappings:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/785d100681f7d101/

GUI builders reviewed:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3db5b18d77974b8/

A long thread started two weeks ago: is Python not scalable enough for
Google?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/ceef2ae6b4472b61/



Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in
these pages:

Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html

PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
marvelous daily python url
 http://www.pythonware.com/daily

Just beginning with Python?  This page is a great place to start:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python enthusiasts:
http://pythonpapers.org/
The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python:
http://pythonmagazine.com

Readers have recommended the Planet site:
http://planet.python.org

comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software.  Be
sure to scan this newsgroup weekly.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python.announce/topics

Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ...
Updates appear more-than-weekly:
http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html

The Python Package Index catalogues packages.
http://www.python.org/pypi/

Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/

Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line
match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're
subject with a vision of what the language makes practical.
http://www.pythonology.com/success

The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python
Consortium as an independent nexus of activity.  It has official
responsibility for Python's development and maintenance.
http://www.python.org/psf/
Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation.
http://www.python.org/psf/donations/

The Summary of Python Tracker Issues is an automatically generated
report summarizing new bugs, closed ones, and patch submissions. 

http://search.gmane.org/?author=status%40bugs.python.orggroup=gmane.comp.python.develsort=date

Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python
hyperlinks retains a few gems.
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html

Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/

The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and
interesting recipes.
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

Many 

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2009-11-24 Thread Erik Max Francis

Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:

Cameron Laird a écrit :


Grant Edwards on the best way to get help from this group :)

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/b8a0c32cae495522/21e80ac383745d88?#21e80ac383745d88


This one really deserves a POTM award !-)


It is a bit surprising to see on IRC how often people are asking for 
help but trying desperately to either 1. not provide enough information 
so that anyone could possibly help, or (even weirder) 2. argue with the 
people trying to help with them or insist they didn't really need the 
help anyway once they get the answer they're looking for.  The former is 
surely just laziness, but there's something psychological going on with 
the latter.


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 San Jose, CA, USA  37 18 N 121 57 W  AIM/Y!M/Skype erikmaxfrancis
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   -- Icelandic Edda of Snorri Sturluson
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2008-11-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW:  One of the reasons for Python's continue march towards world domina-
tion (allow me my fantasies) is its consistent simplicity. Those last two
words would be my candidate for the definition of 'Pythonicity'. - Steve
Holden
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/e2518ea8388ca1c5


The last Release Candidate (RC3) for Python 3.0 is available
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/fbb62e9c9a08c817/

Survey: which dynamic features of Python do you use most?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/bdb39a1a4947cdd8/

Beginners looking for problems/challenges/exercises to do:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2b8a0b4ffdbdffbf/

Call-by-Object strikes again! This time, a functional mind asks why
unrelated functions are allowed to modify the internal state of an object:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/35511397ad7748cc/

How to detect whether a dictionary has been modified
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3632f2407640e759/

Function default arguments are only evaluated when the function is
defined.  Is it intuitive? Ways to change the current behaviour.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2e01cc9ce899eb6e/
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/1209ebf18a5ec561/

Installing Python on Windows Vista may require using the Administrator
account
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/a745ed3df47e1be9/

Elegant ways to execute a function at most n times or until succeeds:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/10d651c2a0eb082e/

__cmp__ is gone in Python 3 - how to implement a total ordering in
a simple way?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2a672f960e595c76/



Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in
these pages:

Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html

PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
marvelous daily python url
 http://www.pythonware.com/daily

Just beginning with Python?  This page is a great place to start:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python enthusiats:
http://pythonpapers.org/
The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python:
http://pythonmagazine.com

Readers have recommended the Planet sites:
http://planetpython.org
http://planet.python.org

comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software.  Be
sure to scan this newsgroup weekly.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python.announce/topics

Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ...
Updates appear more-than-weekly:
http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html

The Python Package Index catalogues packages.
http://www.python.org/pypi/

The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references
to all sorts of Python resources.
http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/

Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/

Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line
match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're
subject with a vision of what the language makes practical.
http://www.pythonology.com/success

The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python
Consortium as an independent nexus of activity.  It has official
responsibility for Python's development and maintenance.
http://www.python.org/psf/
Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation.
http://www.python.org/psf/donations/

The Summary of Python Tracker Issues is an automatically generated
report summarizing new bugs, closed ones, and patch submissions. 

http://search.gmane.org/?author=status%40bugs.python.orggroup=gmane.comp.python.develsort=date

Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python
hyperlinks retains a few gems.
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html

Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/

The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and
interesting recipes.
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

Many Python conferences around the world are in preparation.
Watch this space for links to them.

Among several Python-oriented RSS/RDF feeds available, see:
http://www.python.org/channews.rdf
For more, see:

Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 24)

2008-11-24 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW:  One of the reasons for Python's continue march towards world domina-
tion (allow me my fantasies) is its consistent simplicity. Those last two
words would be my candidate for the definition of 'Pythonicity'. - Steve
Holden
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/e2518ea8388ca1c5


The last Release Candidate (RC3) for Python 3.0 is available
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/fbb62e9c9a08c817/

Survey: which dynamic features of Python do you use most?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/bdb39a1a4947cdd8/

Beginners looking for problems/challenges/exercises to do:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2b8a0b4ffdbdffbf/

Call-by-Object strikes again! This time, a functional mind asks why
unrelated functions are allowed to modify the internal state of an object:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/35511397ad7748cc/

How to detect whether a dictionary has been modified
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/3632f2407640e759/

Function default arguments are only evaluated when the function is
defined.  Is it intuitive? Ways to change the current behaviour.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2e01cc9ce899eb6e/
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/1209ebf18a5ec561/

Installing Python on Windows Vista may require using the Administrator
account
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/a745ed3df47e1be9/

Elegant ways to execute a function at most n times or until succeeds:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/10d651c2a0eb082e/

__cmp__ is gone in Python 3 - how to implement a total ordering in
a simple way?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/t/2a672f960e595c76/



Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in
these pages:

Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html

PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
marvelous daily python url
 http://www.pythonware.com/daily

Just beginning with Python?  This page is a great place to start:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python enthusiats:
http://pythonpapers.org/
The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python:
http://pythonmagazine.com

Readers have recommended the Planet sites:
http://planetpython.org
http://planet.python.org

comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software.  Be
sure to scan this newsgroup weekly.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python.announce/topics

Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ...
Updates appear more-than-weekly:
http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html

The Python Package Index catalogues packages.
http://www.python.org/pypi/

The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references
to all sorts of Python resources.
http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/

Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/

Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line
match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're
subject with a vision of what the language makes practical.
http://www.pythonology.com/success

The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python
Consortium as an independent nexus of activity.  It has official
responsibility for Python's development and maintenance.
http://www.python.org/psf/
Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation.
http://www.python.org/psf/donations/

The Summary of Python Tracker Issues is an automatically generated
report summarizing new bugs, closed ones, and patch submissions. 

http://search.gmane.org/?author=status%40bugs.python.orggroup=gmane.comp.python.develsort=date

Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python
hyperlinks retains a few gems.
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html

Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/

The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and
interesting recipes.
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/

Many Python conferences around the world are in preparation.
Watch this space for links to them.

Among several Python-oriented RSS/RDF feeds available, see:
http://www.python.org/channews.rdf
For more, see: