Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-12 Thread bruno at modulix
Redefined Horizons wrote:
 I've been hearing a ot about AJAX lately. I may have to build a web
 application in the near future, and I was curoius:
 
 How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that uses
 AJAX?

How does a car that has a diesel motor compare with one that is red ?

 I've done some basic web page design with HTML and CSS, but never any
 web applications.

Obviously !-)

So the first steps would be to learn what is AJAX (hint: it's not a
lnaguage), and what is the difference between client-side scripting and
server-side scripting.

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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-12 Thread Bo Yang
I think if you know java language very well but feel suffering with the 
error prone javascript ,
GWT is good choose for AJAX development .
With the well-known IDE Eclipse your development time efficiency will 
promote fast !
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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-12 Thread dingbat
Redefined Horizons wrote:

 How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that uses AJAX?

Mauve has the most RAM

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Python or Ajax?

2006-06-09 Thread Redefined Horizons
I've been hearing a ot about AJAX lately. I may have to build a web
application in the near future, and I was curoius:

How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that uses AJAX?

I've done some basic web page design with HTML and CSS, but never any
web applications. I don't want to learn a new language if I can use
Python. Would AJAX offer me any significant advantages?

Thanks,

Scott Huey
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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-09 Thread Paul Osman
On 9-Jun-06, at 4:00 PM, Redefined Horizons wrote:

 I've been hearing a ot about AJAX lately. I may have to build a web
 application in the near future, and I was curoius:

 How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that  
 uses AJAX?

 I've done some basic web page design with HTML and CSS, but never any
 web applications. I don't want to learn a new language if I can use
 Python. Would AJAX offer me any significant advantages?

 Thanks,

 Scott Huey

Apples and Oranges my friend :) You may want to browse through the  
following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX

A nice toolkit for such things:
http://mochikit.com/

Which is conveniently used in a Python framework called Turbogears:
http://www.turbogears.org/

Hope that helps clear things up.

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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-09 Thread Miguel Galves
These are two very different things.Python is a programming language, that can be used to write server side code,and web applications. AJAX is mora way of life than a technology. Its a listof well known technologies that can be used together
to build rich user interfaces. AJAX and Python could be used togetherto build nice web applications.Inf fact..AJAX should be used within any web app.[]sMiguel
On 6/9/06, Redefined Horizons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-09 Thread Larry Bates
Redefined Horizons wrote:
 I've been hearing a ot about AJAX lately. I may have to build a web
 application in the near future, and I was curoius:
 
 How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that uses
 AJAX?
 
 I've done some basic web page design with HTML and CSS, but never any
 web applications. I don't want to learn a new language if I can use
 Python. Would AJAX offer me any significant advantages?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott Huey

First: AJAX - Asynchronous JavaScript and XML.

Second: You can't get around JavaScript on the client side, because it is
really the only language that browsers support natively.  You can
certainly use Python, Twisted or Zope for providing XMLRPC services on
the server side.

Google's GWT toolkit (http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/) has you write in Java
and it converts client portions to Javascript (if I'm understanding how it 
works).

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Re: Python or Ajax?

2006-06-09 Thread Ravi Teja
 I've been hearing a ot about AJAX lately. I may have to build a web
 application in the near future, and I was curoius:

 How does a web application that uses Python compare with one that uses AJAX?

 I've done some basic web page design with HTML and CSS, but never any
 web applications. I don't want to learn a new language if I can use
 Python. Would AJAX offer me any significant advantages?

AJAX is *NOT* a programming language. It is a certain way of building
web applications. Any Python (or any other language) web framework may
be used, though some (TurboGears / LivePage etc) have explicit support
for it.

I bit of googling does not hurt.

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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-30 Thread Stephan Diehl
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:04:46 -0700, Steve Young wrote:

 Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew of any good
 tutorial/example of AJAX/xmlhttprequest in python.
 Thanks.
 
 -Steve

As all the others have said already, AJAX has nothing to do with python,
but everything with JavaScript.
You might want to check out MochiKit (http://mochikit.com), a lightweight
JavaScript library written by Bob Ippolito. Bob did a very good job in
turning programming JS into a more python like experience.
- stephan
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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-30 Thread gene tani
http://www.modernmethod.com/sajax/
http://selenium.thoughtworks.com/usage.html

Stephan Diehl wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:04:46 -0700, Steve Young wrote:

  Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew of any good
  tutorial/example of AJAX/xmlhttprequest in python.
  Thanks.
 
  -Steve

 As all the others have said already, AJAX has nothing to do with python,
 but everything with JavaScript.
 You might want to check out MochiKit (http://mochikit.com), a lightweight
 JavaScript library written by Bob Ippolito. Bob did a very good job in
 turning programming JS into a more python like experience.
 - stephan

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python and ajax

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Young
Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew of any good
tutorial/example of AJAX/xmlhttprequest in python.
Thanks.

-Steve




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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-29 Thread Do Re Mi chel La Si Do
Hi !


Here :  http://wikipython.flibuste.net/moin.py/AJAX


@-salutations

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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-29 Thread matt
Steve-

I recently ported version 1.3 of cpaint to python.  Soon after version
2.0 was released and I haven't really looked at it since.  The 1.3
stuff was really simple though if you understand cgi, then you just
implement a endpoint for your request to call.  The javascript side is
really the only thing new (might be a little learning if you having
done much js).

I think that more advanced ajax libraries like dojo or openrico are
probably better suited to more complicated ajax use.  Though they are
more focused on the js frontend stuff.

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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Hansen
Steve Young wrote:
 Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew of any good
 tutorial/example of AJAX/xmlhttprequest in python.
 Thanks.

I can't say if it's good since I haven't looked at it yet, but it's 
certainly timely: this was just posted to the c.l.p.announce group:


A simple server which enables Python regular expression tests in a 
webbrowser. Uses SimpleHTTPServer and AJAX.

You need: Python, a modern webbrowser like Firefox, IE (from 5.5), 
Safari) which handles XMLHttpRequests. Currently works best with 
Firefox, any feedback is welcome.

download

retest-0.3.zip - 050828
 http://cthedot.de/retest/retest-0.3.zip
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Re: python and ajax

2005-08-29 Thread Jp Calderone
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Steve Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew of any good
tutorial/example of AJAX/xmlhttprequest in python.
Thanks.


There's a short example of Nevow's LivePage online here: 
http://divmod.org/svn/Nevow/trunk/examples/livepage/livepage.py

It's not a tutorial by itself, but if you poke around some of the other 
examples and read http://divmod.org/projects/nevow and some of the documents it 
references, you should be able to figure things out.

Jp
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Re: Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-24 Thread Chris
Does anyone else have any Nevow examples?


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
 aurora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It was discussed in the last Bay Area Python Interest Group meeting.
  
  Thursday, February 10, 2005
  Agenda: Developing Responsive GUI Applications Using HTML and HTTP
  Speakers: Donovan Preston
  http://www.baypiggies.net/
  
  The author has a component LivePage for this. You may find it from  
  http://nevow.com/. Similar idea from the Javascript stuff but very Python
  centric.
 
 As an example for that technology (LivePage) I have this:
 
 http://vercingetorix.dyndns.org:20080/
 
 Which is an online forum where the Quote  Reply function is done with
 XMLHttpRequest and Python.
 
 Implementing this stuff in the forum with Nevow ( the framework created
 by Donovan who I help to develop ) was almost effortless. 
 
 
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Re: Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-24 Thread Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone else have any Nevow examples?

Nevow SVN is full of examples ranging from a simple hello world to a
complete blog engine with xml-rpc, smtp and web interfaces for adding
new posts and an atom feed, or even a live chat or a pastebin or an
image uploader and so on.

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Re: Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-24 Thread Evan Simpson
John Willems wrote:
Interesting GUI developments, it seems. Anyone developed a Ajax
application using Python? Very curious
Not what you meant, perhaps, but http://weboggle.shackworks.com has a 
Javascript/HTML/CSS one-page client that uses XMLHttpRequest to talk to 
a Python back-end.  The requests are very crude, though, and the server 
is utterly specialized (no framework, not even asyncore).

Cheers,
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Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-23 Thread John Willems

Interesting GUI developments, it seems. Anyone developed a Ajax
application using Python? Very curious

thx

(Ajax stands for:
XHTML and CSS;
dynamic display and interaction using the Document Object Model;
data interchange and manipulation using XML and XSLT;
asynchronous data retrieval using XMLHttpRequest;
and JavaScript binding everything together

ie Google has used these technologies to build Gmail, Google Maps etc.

more info:
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php)

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Re: Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-23 Thread aurora
It was discussed in the last Bay Area Python Interest Group meeting.
Thursday, February 10, 2005
Agenda: Developing Responsive GUI Applications Using HTML and HTTP
Speakers: Donovan Preston
http://www.baypiggies.net/
The author has a component LivePage for this. You may find it from  
http://nevow.com/. Similar idea from the Javascript stuff but very Python  
centric.


Interesting GUI developments, it seems. Anyone developed a Ajax
application using Python? Very curious
thx
(Ajax stands for:
XHTML and CSS;
dynamic display and interaction using the Document Object Model;
data interchange and manipulation using XML and XSLT;
asynchronous data retrieval using XMLHttpRequest;
and JavaScript binding everything together
ie Google has used these technologies to build Gmail, Google Maps etc.
more info:
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php)
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Re: Python and Ajax technology collaboration

2005-02-23 Thread Dave Brueck
John Willems wrote:
Interesting GUI developments, it seems. Anyone developed a Ajax
application using Python? Very curious
thx
(Ajax stands for:
XHTML and CSS;
dynamic display and interaction using the Document Object Model;
data interchange and manipulation using XML and XSLT;
asynchronous data retrieval using XMLHttpRequest;
and JavaScript binding everything together
We're using it in a couple of projects with Zope as the backend and it works 
really well - the web applications are way more responsive now (I'm hoping 
someone with lots of Zope knowledge will redo the ZMI itself using this approach).

-Dave
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