Re: system tray or notification area in python

2012-10-17 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
 So I thought I would write a brand new stand alone system tray or
 notification area in python. I guess I need to use gtk bindings or
 some such but don't really know what my options are.

 Where would I start something like this?
 Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!

 Why not look at the source code of the current app your using to get
 an idea how that application accomplishes said task?

 I actually did that already it's using the C bindings of gtk.

 I think you are mistaken - if its this one:
 http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/

 Yes, that's it.

 I had a quick look into the sources, it does not use gtk at all, it uses
 low level X11 calls. Programming in this way is very tedious.

 Right, but nobody wrote Xlib bindings for python?

 Erm, Google is your friend: python xlib turns up

   http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/

 as well as

   http://plwm.sourceforge.net/

 which is pretty close to what you are trying to do.

Great, thanks a lot!

 Don't take it wrong, but when you write that you have no experience with
 GUI programming, I'd start another projet first - I think you will have
 a tough way to succeed with this project.

 I certainly wouldn't start with Xlib in C, but if python bindings
 would be available that would make life much easier.


 Everything is easier in python:) because usually python libs are
 designed with OO and ease of use in mind. Beware that this will be much
 tougher than using gtkfriends.

I guess so :) But it's a good excuse to get familiar with X :)

Cheers,
Daniel


   Christian


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Re: system tray or notification area in python

2012-10-16 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Oct 16, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Daniel Fetchinson
fetchin...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm using a stand alone window manager without gnome or kde or any
 other de. But I still would like to have a system tray or notification
 area and so far used stalonetray for this. Stalonetray is written in C
 and is a GTK application, works all right but sometimes it doesn't.
 For instance if it is killed and restarted icons don't come back, etc,
 etc, there are some quirks.

 So I thought I would write a brand new stand alone system tray or
 notification area in python. I guess I need to use gtk bindings or
 some such but don't really know what my options are.

 Where would I start something like this?
 Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!

Why not look at the source code of the current app your using to get
an idea how that application accomplishes said task?

You could always use raw X11 libs but leveraging something like Gtk or
Qt/KDE would probably be much easier.

 Cheers,
 Daniel


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RE: system tray or notification area in python

2012-10-16 Thread Prasad, Ramit
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  I'm using a stand alone window manager without gnome or kde or any
  other de. But I still would like to have a system tray or notification
  area and so far used stalonetray for this. Stalonetray is written in C
  and is a GTK application, works all right but sometimes it doesn't.
  For instance if it is killed and restarted icons don't come back, etc,
  etc, there are some quirks.
 
  So I thought I would write a brand new stand alone system tray or
  notification area in python. I guess I need to use gtk bindings or
  some such but don't really know what my options are.
 
  Where would I start something like this?
  Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!
 
  Why not look at the source code of the current app your using to get
  an idea how that application accomplishes said task?
 
 I actually did that already it's using the C bindings of gtk.
 You might ask you I'm not modifying the code in order to achieve what
 I want, well, the answer is that I'd much rather prototype something
 like this in python than work immediately with gtk from C.
 
 But I have zero experience with gui programming in python. So any
 pointers would be much appreciated how to implement a system tray in
 python. Gtk is I guess just one option, one could use other stuff from
 python but I wouldn't know what the simplest approach is.
 
 

I have used wxpython and thought it was powerful and reasonably easy 
to use. I have no experience with other Python frameworks but I know 
wxpython is a popular choice and I would guess it has an active community.

That is my two cents (or lowest denomination currency for your locale).

 
  You could always use raw X11 libs but leveraging something like Gtk or
  Qt/KDE would probably be much easier.
 

~Ramit


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